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Rollie396 · 05-11-2005, 10:15 PM

this is how I am wanting to set up my bags.Just want to see if there are any problems with my plan.I'm going to have an extra port in the right tank for another compressor if it turns out I need it.Am I on the right track?

1low1967 · 05-12-2005, 07:15 AM

Looks good to me. The only thing you might want to do is run a gauge per bag, Witht the heavy trucks, when you go around corners you might get air transfer from bag to bag, Running a sway will help but thats the only thing I really see...The extra port you also might want to run a schreader vale so if the compressor fails you have a way to fill the tanks at any gas station.

Jordan

XXL · 05-12-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 1low1967

Looks good to me. The only thing you might want to do is run a gauge per bag, Witht the heavy trucks, when you go around corners you might get air transfer from bag to bag,

Adding a second gauge isn't going to help with that (in fact, they'll both read the same value). He's going to need separate valve sets for each corner to eliminate side-to-side transfer... and yes, it's a pretty big deal on these trucks. I rubbed the sidewall off my rear tires in about 6 months before getting my second set of valves to go 4-way. Since then the rubbing is gone.

edit: Oops... just studied the diagram a little more closely. Yes, what 1low1967 said. Two gauges needed.

Also, I don't know the specs on the Viair 380, but 8 gallons is a LOT to ask of most compressors. I've got 6 gallons (2 x 3) with 2 Thomas 315's and that's pretty much their limit.

Slammed67 · 05-12-2005, 10:19 AM

Check out the air ride diagrams I have on my web site.

I'd also recommend an inline filter. My diagrams show the filter between the compressor and the tank. I now think that it'd be better located between the tank and the valves. The tank will act as a "pre-filter" to remove some of the condensation and dirt out of the air. Any dirt/water that doesn't settle in the tank will be trapped in the filter. That's just my opinion.

smokekiki · 05-12-2005, 10:43 AM

Am I missing something?It looks like a basic 4way set up.he has a fill and a dump for each bag,so no air transfer.I agree with gauges for each bag.I would think You would want to keep as much water out of the tank as possible.

71swb4x4 · 05-12-2005, 01:32 PM

My guess is that he is using dual needle gauges. One for the front and one for the back so all should be good.

XXL · 05-12-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

My guess is that he is using dual needle gauges. One for the front and one for the back so all should be good.

May well be. Based on the diagram, there's only one air line feeding the gauge. If that's just an oversight or a simplification of a dual gauge setup, then there's no air transfer weirdness to worry about.

71swb4x4 · 05-12-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XXL

there's only one air line feeding the gauge

Didn't notice that. Wish I would have looked closer

Rollie396 · 05-12-2005, 08:19 PM

thanks for the input guys and just to clear it up,I messed up on the drawing,I will be running dual needle gauges so the air transfer shouldn't be an issue.The filter/water trap is now in the plans.
Can anyone confirm what XXL suspects about the Viair 380 not being enough pump?
One last thing.I was dreaming about running a line from the tank into the cab behind the seat or something.I was gonna put a female quick connect on it and store a hose somewhere that I could use to air the tires or put air in the tank if the compressor dies (thanks for that one 1low1967).Anyone try this with any success?

1low1967 · 05-13-2005, 07:40 AM

I hav and will be running a engine driven compressor. I've filled 15 galllons of air from 0 to 175 in just over 2 min. at idle with a 4 banger. Depending on where you put ur tank you could run it of the tank itself, but I would see a problem with it in the cab. Just putting o hole in the cab with a groment.

Good luck and hope we helped you a little

1low1967 · 05-13-2005, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 1low1967

I would see a problem with it in the cab. Just putting o hole in the cab with a groment.

What I meant was wouldn't see a problem

Rollie396 · 05-13-2005, 08:20 PM

cool I'll be running a line into the cab then.How bout the compressor?Is it enough to keep up to 8 gals?It's rated at 200psi max and is 100% duty.

*edit* oh and btw you've helped me out quite alot thanks for takin the time!

05-11-2005, 10:15 PM	#1
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	need some advice this is how I am wanting to set up my bags.Just want to see if there are any problems with my plan.I'm going to have an extra port in the right tank for another compressor if it turns out I need it.Am I on the right track? Attached Images __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

05-12-2005, 10:19 AM	#4
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Check out the air ride diagrams I have on my web site. I'd also recommend an inline filter. My diagrams show the filter between the compressor and the tank. I now think that it'd be better located between the tank and the valves. The tank will act as a "pre-filter" to remove some of the condensation and dirt out of the air. Any dirt/water that doesn't settle in the tank will be trapped in the filter. That's just my opinion. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

05-12-2005, 10:43 AM	#5
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,473	Am I missing something?It looks like a basic 4way set up.he has a fill and a dump for each bag,so no air transfer.I agree with gauges for each bag.I would think You would want to keep as much water out of the tank as possible. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires Last edited by smokekiki; 05-12-2005 at 10:46 AM.

05-12-2005, 01:32 PM	#6
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	My guess is that he is using dual needle gauges. One for the front and one for the back so all should be good. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. Last edited by 71swb4x4; 05-12-2005 at 01:32 PM. Reason: spling

05-12-2005, 08:19 PM	#9
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	thanks for the input guys and just to clear it up,I messed up on the drawing,I will be running dual needle gauges so the air transfer shouldn't be an issue.The filter/water trap is now in the plans. Can anyone confirm what XXL suspects about the Viair 380 not being enough pump? One last thing.I was dreaming about running a line from the tank into the cab behind the seat or something.I was gonna put a female quick connect on it and store a hose somewhere that I could use to air the tires or put air in the tank if the compressor dies (thanks for that one 1low1967).Anyone try this with any success? __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

05-12-2005, 07:15 AM	#2
1low1967 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mohnton Posts: 87	Looks good to me. The only thing you might want to do is run a gauge per bag, Witht the heavy trucks, when you go around corners you might get air transfer from bag to bag, Running a sway will help but thats the only thing I really see...The extra port you also might want to run a schreader vale so if the compressor fails you have a way to fill the tanks at any gas station. Jordan

05-13-2005, 07:40 AM	#10
1low1967 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mohnton Posts: 87	I hav and will be running a engine driven compressor. I've filled 15 galllons of air from 0 to 175 in just over 2 min. at idle with a 4 banger. Depending on where you put ur tank you could run it of the tank itself, but I would see a problem with it in the cab. Just putting o hole in the cab with a groment. Good luck and hope we helped you a little

05-13-2005, 08:20 PM	#12
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	cool I'll be running a line into the cab then.How bout the compressor?Is it enough to keep up to 8 gals?It's rated at 200psi max and is 100% duty. edit oh and btw you've helped me out quite alot thanks for takin the time! __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics Last edited by Rollie396; 05-13-2005 at 08:21 PM.

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