LS1 swap. What oil pan did you use?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by shifty

Ceramic coated for $560?!

I think that is the price after the member discount, but you should probably PM him for verification.

[mahanian]

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but it looks like I'm going to have to run a camaro pan on the Suburban. With the bags and dropped arms it's just going to be to low. I think the crewcab will probably be fine since the susupension is only lowered a couple of inches. Anyway, does anyone have one that one to sell or does anyone know the part # so I can start looking? OBTW, check out the new headers for the LS1 from Doug Thorley, . No clearance issues here, .

Hey Rob, did you figure out what motor mount you plan to use with the Camaro oil pan? Would you mind measuring the gap from your crossmember straight back to the part of the oil pan hanging behind the crossmember?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Hey Rob, did you figure out what motor mount you plan to use with the Camaro oil pan? Would you mind measuring the gap from your crossmember straight back to the part of the oil pan hanging behind the crossmember?

I'm using ECE motor mounts. I think there's about 3-4 inches from the crossmember to the truck pan. I think there will be plenty of room for the camaro pan. I'm recovering for surgery, so give me a couple of days to get some measurements.

[mahanian]

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

I'm using ECE motor mounts. I think there's about 3-4 inches from the crossmember to the truck pan. I think there will be plenty of room for the camaro pan. I'm recovering for surgery, so give me a couple of days to get some measurements.

No hurry, hope everything went well with your surgery.

Searching through various threads on here and ls1tech.com, the concensus seems to be that the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro oil pan.

I knew you were using the ECE mounts and you were thinking about switching to the camaro oil pan, but I wasn't sure if you had researched it further. Judging by the image on post #21 of this thread, if there isn't more than 3 inches of gap between the truck oil pan and the crossmember, then the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro pan.

[Hart_Rod]

I got all the parts today and I'm going to do the Camaro pan swap, hopefully this will work...........

[Hart_Rod]

Well I verified that the Camaro oil pan definitely will not work with the ECE mounts. It's about 1/2" to long back to front. I could easily modify the crossmember, but I think the Cadillac CTSV pan will work if my measurements are correct....back to the drawing board....

[68 short step]

can you take pics of what you're talking about....??

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

can you take pics of what you're talking about....??

I'll get some up later this evening.

R

[Hart_Rod]

Here's the pictures. It's very close, but just not quite enough room.

[Hart_Rod]

I think this pan will work. Here's a comparison to the Camaro pan. Any thoughts out there.....??????

[ZZ4Blazer]

Heres some, I think the pics will work even if your not a member.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...f-them-324366/

What bout the H3 pan? How far does the regular truck pan hang down too much?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

Heres some, I think the pics will work even if your not a member.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...f-them-324366/

What bout the H3 pan? How far does the regular truck pan hang down too much?

Truck pan is 8 1/4" deep, H3 Pan is 7 1/2" deep.

[mahanian]

I'm planning on using the Cadillac pan when I do my swap for that very reason. The truck pan hangs too low, IMO. I have an 04 GTO that I'm pulling the LS1 out of, but it's a front sump setup that definitely will not work

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

I'm planning on using the Cadillac pan when I do my swap for that very reason. The truck pan hangs too low, IMO. I have an 04 GTO that I'm pulling the LS1 out of, but it's a front sump setup that definitely will not work

What mounts are you going to use?

R

[68 short step]

thanks rob.....i do beleive the cadi pan will work for ya....also i think if you went with the POL mounts the camaro pan would work too....but again im not 100% positive on that...

[mahanian]

I was planning to use ECE's or S&P's. S&P sells the mounts that move the engine back an extra inch if needed

[mahanian]

Let me know if you find a decent price on the Cadillac parts. I was going to swap a guy my GTO pan for his Cadillac pan, but I think I want to hang on to the GTO pan for the time being. I have a list of part numbers for all the parts (pan, pickup tube, dipstick tube, etc) if you need it

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

thanks rob.....i do beleive the cadi pan will work for ya....also i think if you went with the POL mounts the camaro pan would work too....but again im not 100% positive on that...

I'm in to deep with the ECE stuff to back up now, . Hopefully the Caddy pan will work...........

Originally Posted by mahanian

Let me know if you find a decent price on the Cadillac parts. I was going to swap a guy my GTO pan for his Cadillac pan, but I think I want to hang on to the GTO pan for the time being. I have a list of part numbers for all the parts (pan, pickup tube, dipstick tube, etc) if you need it

I got the numbers off of LS1 tech. I think you can use the truck windage tray. I will have to use the Lokar dipstick with the Doug Thorley headers. I'll let you know.

[Hart_Rod]

OK, we have a winner, . The Cadillac CTSv pan looks like it was made to go with the ECE motor mounts. It sits about 3/4" above the crossmember and has plenty of room in the front for the drag link to clear. All you need is the pan and the oil pickup tube. The windage tray from the truck works. If you got any question let me go. Another cool thing I like about it is the fact that the oil drain plug is in the rear and not on the side. Here's a few pictures.......

[mahanian]

Where did you buy the pan?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Where did you buy the pan?

I got it at the dealership. It's normally around $340, I got it for about 270. If you're not running the ECE mounts, the Fbody pan will work and gives you a little more clearance. If you're interested in the extra Fbody pan, windage tray and oil pick up tube, I'll ship it to you for $260. I've seen used ones on Ebay going for over $200. LMK.

R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...mZ380045124772

[mahanian]

Thanks, but I'll pass. You are asking $2 less than buying the stuff new from gmpartsdirect.com including shipping

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Thanks, but I'll pass. You are asking $2 less than buying the stuff new from gmpartsdirect.com including shipping

This stuff is new! I bought it Monday. I guess I got taken but, I paid $290 for everything at the dealership and that's with a business discount, (I'll be glad to show you the receipt, ). Oh well, maybe I'll throw it on ebay or make me an offer.

[Hart_Rod]

Mahanian,

Honestly, the rolled eyes weren't necessary. Like I said I paid $290 for everything and I'm sure it's going to cost at least $40 to ship. So even if I sold it for $260, I'm still out $70, about 4 hrs work, and a couple trips to the parts store. Plus, I saved you a lot of time trying to figure this out yourself. Sorry for the rant, but I don't appreciate you implying I'm trying to rip some one off. Have a good night.

Rob

[mahanian]

Sorry Rob, I didn't mean that as a personal attack. I used the "roll eyes" emoticon guy as a "hmmm" or "deep in thought" cause that's what it always looked like to me. I've never used that little guy before and that is what I always thought it was.