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Old 06-28-2008, 12:09 PM   #1
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big block vs Tranny

Well i just picked up my 454 today.. came out of a 84 3/4 ton turn key for $500
i think i got a good deal. ill get pictures later

350 staying in it another year im sure (while im building it).

i want a Manual not an automatic just for the sake of keeping it simple.
i plan on turning the BB into a 496 and ball park 500hp/600tq nothing to radical
what tranny can i get that will hold this stocker or built up.
was thinking a 5 or 6 speed out of a comaro ss or a corvette but i could use a few tips if anyone has seen this done or looked into it. running 4.10 rear end at them moment and ill only turn the motor 6k max.

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Old 06-28-2008, 03:23 PM   #2
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #3
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Re: big block vs Tranny

in all reality, "to keep things simple" you'd want a TH400.
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:50 PM   #4
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Re: big block vs Tranny

Agree with Longhorn Man on the simplicity of a TH400.

I don't know of many (make that "any") stock manual tranny's that'll handle 600 lbft of torque.

Aftermarket tranny required, I think. And for those I'll bet you're going to spend more than $2000.

The TH400 in my 454 powered 69 short Fleet works very well (that is until I "borrowed" the engine recently for my 70 Elky).
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:05 PM   #5
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Re: big block vs Tranny

TH400 is what I suggest if you are on a budget.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:25 PM   #6
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I agree with longhorn man too! If the vehicle it is going is already set up with a stick then maybe OK. Putting a stick in a vehicle that was set up as an auto is not what I would consider simple. Nor quick but it can get dirty. Just some mindless thoughts from a 60 year old rodder. Later Specs
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:12 PM   #7
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Re: big block vs Tranny

well when i said simple i meant i like the closed system and less moving parts to worry about later on. ill roll the th400 thing around but im still bumping the thread cause i would love to see someone else that has done it.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:15 PM   #8
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Re: big block vs Tranny

Call Kiesler(?) and check on the TKO they have put those behind some pretty stout motors including built Hemis
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:43 PM   #9
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Re: big block vs Tranny

I know of no readily available stock manuals that could handle 600 tq. Sounds like an aftermarket, race ready manual or auto. Even a 400 would have to be built. Richmond maybe?
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:00 AM   #10
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a Slightly built T56 from a camaro/corvette should be able to handle it.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:27 AM   #11
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no it wont the only t-56 thatll handle it is a viper specced t-56 cuz it has smaller 1-2-3 gears than the rest.. i just got done doin the 496 route forged internals aluminum top comp cam (LOL)ford lifters(LOL) 850 quickfuel vac sec. msd yea put me back like 7,500 total for the thing
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:43 AM   #12
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Re: big block vs Tranny

I am going to buck the 400 trend...they tend to lose more HP in the driveline than a 350. There's a guy here that my friend knows who races a 600 hp BB with a built 350 behind it most every week...he's going to build my tranny [he builds trannies for a living].

As far as manuals go you can get a Richmond 5 or 6 speed [good to 600hp right oout fo the box]...might cost a bit, but if you are dead set on manual, these are the ones to look at.

http://www.powertrax.com/01fivespeed.html

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:19 AM   #13
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I just got done building a 496 with solid roller lifters, solid cam 652 lift ,edelbrock rectagular alumi heads...I think I am going the Tremec TKO 5-speed.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:25 PM   #14
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Re: big block vs Tranny

ok i got a 84 454 out of a 3/4.. been told alot of times there isnt a 5 speed that will bolt up to it.. not sure why i gavfe up looking for one years ago.. wanted to get away form the granny tranny i had.. but would rather have a 5 spd, than the turbo 400 that is in my 76....so is there a 5 spd i can go get out of a junkyard that gonna bolt to my 84 454..
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:42 PM   #15
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any of them will BOLT up... its making one HOLD up that can be a pain.
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