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Okla'59 · 09-11-2009, 09:16 PM

I have been lurking around here for awhile. Decided to just ask my question.

I am wanting to graft in a subframe to my truck, but i cant find a definitive answer on the donor other than a valore (which i cant find). I have at my disposal a mid 70 and late 70 full size pickup i can use, or a mid 70 chevelle also a pinto (was told that this would work with ALOT of fabricating). I just dont have the funds to go out and buy Mustang 2 IFS.

msgross · 09-11-2009, 09:25 PM

my buddy is running a mustang II system. You can get the basic parts pretty cheap. I don't think that what you are planning is going to be a "cheap" endeavor either way...

more guys will chime in on what they've done...

Daniel U · 09-11-2009, 11:21 PM

What do you plan to use the truck for?

OrrieG · 09-11-2009, 11:24 PM

Stay away from the Volore, a friend here is in the process of moving his body from a frame with Volare clip to one with a Nova clip. After the first one almost killed him the second time he decided to change. The way he explained it to get them low you have to change the relationship of the suspension so far from "neutral" that any bump steer sends you off to the right or left. It might just be the way his is set up but I saw it and it looked scary.

fiddy9apache · 09-11-2009, 11:59 PM

i say go with the late 70s truck clip, i have a mid 80s clip under my 59 and love it.

hotrodrookie · 09-12-2009, 12:30 AM

I only have experience with the camaro clip (70-81) that I welded onto my 59 and it was pretty simple being the first one Ive done. Paid $150 for the clip from the junkyard but most of the cost is yet to come when I rebuild the suspension and brakes.

Okla'59 · 09-12-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel U

What do you plan to use the truck for?

This is my first project. I wanting to find the middle ground between streetrod and show truck. Leaning more towards streetrod.

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Originally Posted by fiddy9apache

i say go with the late 70s truck clip, i have a mid 80s clip under my 59 and love it.

That is kinda what I had been thinking, but i wasnt sure on tracking. What kind of chevy rearend do I need? I would like to put a ford 9", but it is impossible to find the right width around here. Planning on putting alot of horsepower down.

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Originally Posted by hotrodrookie

I only have experience with the camaro clip (70-81) that I welded onto my 59 and it was pretty simple being the first one Ive done. Paid $150 for the clip from the junkyard but most of the cost is yet to come when I rebuild the suspension and brakes.

Is the camaro clip the same width as pickup?

hotrodrookie · 09-12-2009, 12:00 PM

The camaro clips are exactly the same width as the truck frame, thats what makes them so popular for the task force trucks.

KJN1971 · 09-12-2009, 08:53 PM

Do you have any pics? I just posted pics today in the thread asking for pics of trucks.

Okla'59 · 09-12-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KJN1971

Do you have any pics? I just posted pics today in the thread asking for pics of trucks.

i had pics before i pulled it out of the weeds and some of tear down, but i lost digital camera

09-11-2009, 09:16 PM	#1
Okla'59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Laverne, OK Posts: 6	Newbie with 59 apache project I have been lurking around here for awhile. Decided to just ask my question. I am wanting to graft in a subframe to my truck, but i cant find a definitive answer on the donor other than a valore (which i cant find). I have at my disposal a mid 70 and late 70 full size pickup i can use, or a mid 70 chevelle also a pinto (was told that this would work with ALOT of fabricating). I just dont have the funds to go out and buy Mustang 2 IFS.

09-11-2009, 09:25 PM	#2
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project my buddy is running a mustang II system. You can get the basic parts pretty cheap. I don't think that what you are planning is going to be a "cheap" endeavor either way... more guys will chime in on what they've done... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

09-11-2009, 11:21 PM	#3
Daniel U Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Coast, CA. Posts: 1,202	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project What do you plan to use the truck for? __________________ Mom's 1954 (TBI 5.7/700R4/14 bolt 4:10) 5 Chevrolet window 3/4 ton long bed Pick up build thread ->http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=228674 My 1954 (TPI 5.7/700R4/10 bolt 3:73) Chevrolet 5 window 1/2 ton short bed Pick up build thread->http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...3&goto=newpost 1960 (400/T350/?) Apache 10 short/fleet side-big window 1973 (TPI 5.7/700R4/14 bolt 4:10 w DANA 60 front) Chevrolet Cheyenne 4X4 2013 (Vortec 5.3/6-speed 6L90 automatic) Sierra LT CREW CAB Doing my part to warm the globe

09-11-2009, 11:24 PM	#4
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project Stay away from the Volore, a friend here is in the process of moving his body from a frame with Volare clip to one with a Nova clip. After the first one almost killed him the second time he decided to change. The way he explained it to get them low you have to change the relationship of the suspension so far from "neutral" that any bump steer sends you off to the right or left. It might just be the way his is set up but I saw it and it looked scary. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

09-11-2009, 11:59 PM	#5
fiddy9apache Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ftw tex Posts: 682	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project i say go with the late 70s truck clip, i have a mid 80s clip under my 59 and love it.

09-12-2009, 12:30 AM	#6
hotrodrookie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 425	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project I only have experience with the camaro clip (70-81) that I welded onto my 59 and it was pretty simple being the first one Ive done. Paid $150 for the clip from the junkyard but most of the cost is yet to come when I rebuild the suspension and brakes.

09-12-2009, 12:00 PM	#8
hotrodrookie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 425	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project The camaro clips are exactly the same width as the truck frame, thats what makes them so popular for the task force trucks.

09-12-2009, 08:53 PM	#9
KJN1971 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ringwood, OK Posts: 130	Re: Newbie with 59 apache project Do you have any pics? I just posted pics today in the thread asking for pics of trucks. __________________ 1972 Chevy C10 Stepside Project driver 1980 Chevy Stepside w/ 4" Chop, shaved project 1958 Chevy Apache 36 Long Stepside project 2001 GMC Denali 1500 truck AWD-Pro Charger (Wife's) 2008 Dodge Charger 6 cyl. DD

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