The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain > LSx Swaps

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-20-2010, 09:59 AM   #1
Jim_PA
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 2,696
Coolant line through throttle body

How are you eliminating it?

I've been told you can't just cap the line and you need to bypass the throttle body and plumb it in somewhere else.

Let me know what you're all doing.

Thanks
Jim_PA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:44 AM   #2
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

A hose barb. Clamp, then disconnect the hoses from each side, then connect together with a hose barb and clamps. You don't have to bypass the TB though. It is suppose to help with cold starts by heating the incoming air. How much good it does or not, or how much power is gained by eliminating the heat, I don't know. Mine is still hooked up, although I will probably do away with it and completely grind the fittings off of the TB some day.



That of course would be on an OEM type set-up. For a conversion, you can do a few different things. Starting a the steam pipe on the drivers head, you can just forget running it to the TB altogether an either 1] drill and tap the top of the water pump and run the hose there, 2] run the line to the radiator if yours has a nipple for a heater hose (most 67-72's and 73-91's did), or 3] use an adapter from Jags That Run and tie it in to the upper rad hose.

Tapping the water pump is the shortest and cleanest way to do it. I did mine like #2.

#1


#2 (right above MAF)


#3
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

Last edited by glock35ipsc; 07-20-2010 at 10:57 AM.
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:15 AM   #3
Jim_PA
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 2,696
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Yeah, I bought an Entropy aluminum rad. before deciding to do an LS engine, so I ordered without any heater returns. They also could have sent me one with the upper hose switched to the pass. side to avoid the big snake of a hose, but hind-sight is always 20-20...

I like #1, but my water pump is already mounted and ready to go. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to drill/tap it with it already mounted in place, so the #3 is probably what I'll do --

Thanks for your detailed description! -
Jim_PA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:31 AM   #4
Critter
Future TOTM Winner
 
Critter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bulverde, TX
Posts: 2,692
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

I've been reading up on this too. Just so I'm clear, the steam is running FROM the head TO the throttle body/water pump/radiator, etc. right? I'm just trying to understand these engines top to bottom, front to back...it isn't easy.
__________________
72 Chevy CST K5 HIGHLANDER BLAZER Getting a 6.0,NV4500,NP205,14BFF (Currently laying all over the place in little pieces)
72 Chevy swb step-side "LS" 6.0 Here's a build thread of sorts
2002 HD2500 Crew Cab, 8.1L Allison 4x4 Daily Driver

Check it out www.lsdyno.com
Critter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:34 AM   #5
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

If you are careful, you can drill it in place. Slop your drill bit, and the tap, in wheel bearing grease before starting. The grease will hold all the chips and prevent them from falling into the pump. And, with the o-ring sealing gasket, you are pretty safe to pull the pump to drill it on the bench if you want to. Mine has been off 3 or 4 times using the same original seal set, no leaks.

I like details. They say man is a very visual creature!
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:36 AM   #6
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Quote:
Originally Posted by Critter View Post
I've been reading up on this too. Just so I'm clear, the steam is running FROM the head TO the throttle body/water pump/radiator, etc. right? I'm just trying to understand these engines top to bottom, front to back...it isn't easy.
Correct. This line is there to prevent air from becoming trapped in the highest part of the engine with no where to go, hence the term "steam line".
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

Last edited by glock35ipsc; 07-20-2010 at 11:36 AM.
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:36 AM   #7
Jim_PA
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 2,696
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Ok, so how about this: (it would send it into the heater hose...)
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-26166-47112.aspx

Decisions, decisions...
Jim_PA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 12:06 PM   #8
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Off the top of my head, I don't see why not. I would probably want to run it as high as possible in the system though, which would put it up near the firewall.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 12:12 PM   #9
63chevyll
gets board easy.......
 
63chevyll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 717
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

thats good to know, i tried by passing on one of my toyotas and the throttle boddy needed the heat
63chevyll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 12:22 PM   #10
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

I have bypassed on a couple other 5.3 and a 6.0 trucks that I've had before with no issues, so it can be done to these engines. They don't necessarily rely on the heat.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 05:47 PM   #11
TR65
Senior Member
 
TR65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 873
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

My steam line didn't go to the throttle body (2005 LS2). The Chevy book on LS swaps says the line should go to the highest point in the coolant system. I drilled a hole in the radiator and used an AN bulkhead fitting and a washer with an o-ring molded into it to attach the line.

It is interesting that with the line that way I could completely fill the radiator on the initial fill. Air kept bubbling out of that fitting in the radiator until the engine was full.

TR
Attached Images
 
__________________
1965 C10 SWB Fleet
Two owner

LS2 Swap Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=413880
TR65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 06:00 PM   #12
Jim_PA
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 2,696
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Thanks for all the options. Keep it high! --
Jim_PA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2010, 10:20 PM   #13
chevydog66
GM ONLY BABY!!!
 
chevydog66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,998
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Is this absolutely necessary? I have a 01 6.0 LQ4.
__________________
2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do.

66 Chevelle Malibu 406ci, 573hp, 10.99@121mph
96 Chevy Silverado Z71
72 GMC 1500 Super Custom LS 6.0/4L65 on airride

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/707879...mc-c-k-pick-up
chevydog66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2010, 11:25 PM   #14
68GMCCustom
Truck and auto performance nut
 
68GMCCustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: McKinney,Texas
Posts: 3,848
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

I believe so
__________________
Kurt -

'68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy
'72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close
'06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD
'18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver
'95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto...

my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken
A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken
68GMCCustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 09:10 AM   #15
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevydog66 View Post
Is this absolutely necessary? I have a 01 6.0 LQ4.
To run it through the throttle body? No.

To run it back into a high part of the cooling system? Absolutely.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 07:18 PM   #16
eagleuh1
Registered User
 
eagleuh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Russellville, Arkansas
Posts: 1,699
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

I JB welded a ribbed tubing fitting into one of those heater hose flush and fill Tee screw on caps and put it in my heater hose. Over 2 years and no problems. Cheap temporary fix that I forgot to replace.
eagleuh1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 11:25 PM   #17
chevydog66
GM ONLY BABY!!!
 
chevydog66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,998
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Quote:
Originally Posted by TR65 View Post
My steam line didn't go to the throttle body (2005 LS2). The Chevy book on LS swaps says the line should go to the highest point in the coolant system. I drilled a hole in the radiator and used an AN bulkhead fitting and a washer with an o-ring molded into it to attach the line.

It is interesting that with the line that way I could completely fill the radiator on the initial fill. Air kept bubbling out of that fitting in the radiator until the engine was full.

TR
Where did you get the book on LS swaps, and who is the publisher?
__________________
2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do.

66 Chevelle Malibu 406ci, 573hp, 10.99@121mph
96 Chevy Silverado Z71
72 GMC 1500 Super Custom LS 6.0/4L65 on airride

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/707879...mc-c-k-pick-up
chevydog66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 11:42 PM   #18
chevydog66
GM ONLY BABY!!!
 
chevydog66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,998
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

never mind, googled it and found it.
__________________
2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do.

66 Chevelle Malibu 406ci, 573hp, 10.99@121mph
96 Chevy Silverado Z71
72 GMC 1500 Super Custom LS 6.0/4L65 on airride

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/707879...mc-c-k-pick-up
chevydog66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 09:32 AM   #19
85burb
Registered User
 
85burb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lindale,tx
Posts: 2,373
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

My 07 4.8 has it going strait to where the old school heater hose dump is in side of the rad tank. I guess if coolant circulates threw it it is ok. Cause that is not the hightest place by far.
__________________
82 c10 5.3/4l60
84 c20 5.3/sm465
85 chevy k10 suburban LQ4/4l60
91 chevy c10 suburban Lsa 5.3/4l60
2017 Silverado whipple 5.3
1964 Vw beetle
1974 vw beetle
85burb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 10:29 AM   #20
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,684
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Quote:
Originally Posted by 85burb View Post
My 07 4.8 has it going strait to where the old school heater hose dump is in side of the rad tank. I guess if coolant circulates threw it it is ok. Cause that is not the hightest place by far.
And that is a great (and convenient) place to run it to in these trucks, also the 67-72's, that have that nipple on the radiator tank. Even on the 100° + days here, the hottest I have seen mine get is 198°.

I think the TBSS has the steam hose running to a "T" into one of the heater hoses.

One thing that will alleviate any problems is to jack up the front of the truck while filing the cooling system to help prevent any air pockets from forming during filling.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 12:29 PM   #21
68GMCCustom
Truck and auto performance nut
 
68GMCCustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: McKinney,Texas
Posts: 3,848
Re: Coolant line through throttle body

Quote:
Originally Posted by glock35ipsc View Post
And that is a great (and convenient)
I think the TBSS has the steam hose running to a "T" into one of the heater hoses.
I'll try to remember and check ours tonight...
__________________
Kurt -

'68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy
'72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close
'06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD
'18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver
'95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto...

my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken
A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken
68GMCCustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com