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07-20-2010, 09:59 AM | #1 |
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Coolant line through throttle body
How are you eliminating it?
I've been told you can't just cap the line and you need to bypass the throttle body and plumb it in somewhere else. Let me know what you're all doing. Thanks |
07-20-2010, 10:44 AM | #2 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
A hose barb. Clamp, then disconnect the hoses from each side, then connect together with a hose barb and clamps. You don't have to bypass the TB though. It is suppose to help with cold starts by heating the incoming air. How much good it does or not, or how much power is gained by eliminating the heat, I don't know. Mine is still hooked up, although I will probably do away with it and completely grind the fittings off of the TB some day.
That of course would be on an OEM type set-up. For a conversion, you can do a few different things. Starting a the steam pipe on the drivers head, you can just forget running it to the TB altogether an either 1] drill and tap the top of the water pump and run the hose there, 2] run the line to the radiator if yours has a nipple for a heater hose (most 67-72's and 73-91's did), or 3] use an adapter from Jags That Run and tie it in to the upper rad hose. Tapping the water pump is the shortest and cleanest way to do it. I did mine like #2. #1 #2 (right above MAF) #3
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07-20-2010, 11:15 AM | #3 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Yeah, I bought an Entropy aluminum rad. before deciding to do an LS engine, so I ordered without any heater returns. They also could have sent me one with the upper hose switched to the pass. side to avoid the big snake of a hose, but hind-sight is always 20-20...
I like #1, but my water pump is already mounted and ready to go. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to drill/tap it with it already mounted in place, so the #3 is probably what I'll do -- Thanks for your detailed description! - |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
I've been reading up on this too. Just so I'm clear, the steam is running FROM the head TO the throttle body/water pump/radiator, etc. right? I'm just trying to understand these engines top to bottom, front to back...it isn't easy.
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07-20-2010, 11:34 AM | #5 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
If you are careful, you can drill it in place. Slop your drill bit, and the tap, in wheel bearing grease before starting. The grease will hold all the chips and prevent them from falling into the pump. And, with the o-ring sealing gasket, you are pretty safe to pull the pump to drill it on the bench if you want to. Mine has been off 3 or 4 times using the same original seal set, no leaks.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Correct. This line is there to prevent air from becoming trapped in the highest part of the engine with no where to go, hence the term "steam line".
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Ok, so how about this: (it would send it into the heater hose...)
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-26166-47112.aspx Decisions, decisions... |
07-20-2010, 12:06 PM | #8 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Off the top of my head, I don't see why not. I would probably want to run it as high as possible in the system though, which would put it up near the firewall.
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07-20-2010, 12:12 PM | #9 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
thats good to know, i tried by passing on one of my toyotas and the throttle boddy needed the heat
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07-20-2010, 12:22 PM | #10 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
I have bypassed on a couple other 5.3 and a 6.0 trucks that I've had before with no issues, so it can be done to these engines. They don't necessarily rely on the heat.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
My steam line didn't go to the throttle body (2005 LS2). The Chevy book on LS swaps says the line should go to the highest point in the coolant system. I drilled a hole in the radiator and used an AN bulkhead fitting and a washer with an o-ring molded into it to attach the line.
It is interesting that with the line that way I could completely fill the radiator on the initial fill. Air kept bubbling out of that fitting in the radiator until the engine was full. TR
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Thanks for all the options. Keep it high! --
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07-25-2010, 10:20 PM | #13 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
Is this absolutely necessary? I have a 01 6.0 LQ4.
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07-25-2010, 11:25 PM | #14 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
I believe so
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
To run it through the throttle body? No.
To run it back into a high part of the cooling system? Absolutely.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
I JB welded a ribbed tubing fitting into one of those heater hose flush and fill Tee screw on caps and put it in my heater hose. Over 2 years and no problems. Cheap temporary fix that I forgot to replace.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
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07-26-2010, 11:42 PM | #18 |
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
never mind, googled it and found it.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
My 07 4.8 has it going strait to where the old school heater hose dump is in side of the rad tank. I guess if coolant circulates threw it it is ok. Cause that is not the hightest place by far.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
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I think the TBSS has the steam hose running to a "T" into one of the heater hoses. One thing that will alleviate any problems is to jack up the front of the truck while filing the cooling system to help prevent any air pockets from forming during filling.
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Re: Coolant line through throttle body
I'll try to remember and check ours tonight...
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