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Dylan86 · 04-28-2013, 09:22 PM

I am trying to get some traction on a launch, until my truck hits second gear, in WOT, i just sit there and spin. i only have 2.73 gears in the rear. and 275mm wide rear tires... any ideas other than adding allot of weight to the back?

MB84C10 · 04-28-2013, 09:37 PM

4 link it
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cory d · 04-28-2013, 09:42 PM

you need something to control wrap. there are many options for that. drop shackles will give you more squat too

**rs74** · 04-28-2013, 09:46 PM

Has anyone used these. I was thinking about them for my truck but not sure if they will work on a lowered truck.
http://calvertracing.com/cart/index....products_id=28

INSIDIOUS '86 · 04-28-2013, 09:57 PM

They make them for flip kit trucks yes. Those will help with squat angle and wrap up. People run tens easy with just those. Moving weight to the rear will help much as well. Moving the front spring eye up helps alot and not dumping the gas right away too. Wider tires or slicks will be a good idea too
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Dylan86 · 04-28-2013, 10:10 PM

i have drop spindles and shackles, it did help a bit... and also am interested in the caltracs also rs74. can you install them on a 4" drop? are they worth the coin?

KQQL IT · 04-28-2013, 10:17 PM

Caltracs work!!

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Gigem · 04-28-2013, 10:37 PM

Stupid question, but do you have a positraction rear end?
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KQQL IT · 04-28-2013, 10:45 PM

Gears, posi,shocks and tires are all part of the equation making trucks hook.
Then you will find all the other weak links in the drive train
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KQQL IT · 04-28-2013, 10:46 PM

Gears, posi,shocks and tires are all part of the equation making trucks hook.
Then you will find all the other weak links in the drive train
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meatwagon83 · 04-28-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KQQL IT

Caltracs work!!

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x1000!

cory d · 04-28-2013, 11:41 PM

a big factor is what you have under the hood. to get the most traction from my truck (2.73 gears and mild HP 350) isnt goin to be the same as a 500HP truck with 3.73

Hook0215 · 04-28-2013, 11:50 PM

Caltracs...
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gchemist · 04-29-2013, 07:28 AM

I use a custom set of traction bars on my 12 bolt. Better launch but with no weight, the ZZ4 just tears up tires.

68Timber · 04-29-2013, 11:01 AM

Right now those gears are your worst enemy. Swap the 2.73's for 3.73's or 4.10's.

KQQL IT · 04-29-2013, 11:15 AM

Chemist mine hooks with 0 weight added.
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Dylan86 · 04-29-2013, 07:46 PM

yes i have posi.... and swapping to 3.73 or 4.10 would make my problem worse- my torque would be increased to the wheels. i have too much spin as it is. i think im gunna go caltracs and put some fatter tires on her. thanks guys

INSIDIOUS '86 · 04-29-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan86

yes i have posi.... and swapping to 3.73 or 4.10 would make my problem worse- my torque would be increased to the wheels. i have too much spin as it is. i think im gunna go caltracs and put some fatter tires on her. thanks guys

Yes torque would increase to the wheels but the rate at which its applied is slower I guess you could say or longer over time. I had 2:73 gears and if I farted at the gas it lit my 295s up. Now with 373s I can go a lot more on the gas before they lite but if I floor it I can spun them as long and in any gear I like. If that makes any sense. The Caltracs will be a nice addition. A swaybar in the rear will help to mine torques to the right of my shoulder hardcore
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Dylan86 · 04-29-2013, 08:07 PM

really? thats good to know. my only issue is i have a th350 trans, if i had 4.10s i would almost be red lining before i could go hi-way speeds

INSIDIOUS '86 · 04-29-2013, 08:11 PM

I have a th350 as well. I'm turning about 3-3500rpm avg with 3:73 and 27in tall tires. Tops at 110 @6krpm by my speedometer. A 200r4 from ck or a 700r4 from patc will make them very livable though.
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Dylan86 · 04-29-2013, 08:33 PM

would maybe 3.42s be the best choice then?

gchemist · 04-29-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KQQL IT

Chemist mine hooks with 0 weight added.
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If I had sticky tires, mine would hook up too.

The guy that made my traction bars drove them on a 87 SWB. It was powered by a 454 making over 550 HP. The truck with slicks just squatted, hooked, and launched hard down the track. Once my truck is ready for hardcore track running, I will slap on a set of slicks.

KQQL IT · 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM

All mine wanted to do was wheel hop with street tires.

In reference to Dylan I changed converter to 3500 ish stall. 3:82 gears cal tracs Hoosier drag radials.
Went from 2.20 to 1.67 60' at the strip.
And 13.50's to 12.20's all at 109-110 mph it can be done.
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04-28-2013, 09:22 PM	#1
Dylan86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 88	traction- how to hook up? I am trying to get some traction on a launch, until my truck hits second gear, in WOT, i just sit there and spin. i only have 2.73 gears in the rear. and 275mm wide rear tires... any ideas other than adding allot of weight to the back?

04-28-2013, 09:37 PM	#2
MB84C10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 51	Re: traction- how to hook up? 4 link it Posted via Mobile Device

04-28-2013, 09:42 PM	#3
cory d Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arlington WA Posts: 1,728	Re: traction- how to hook up? you need something to control wrap. there are many options for that. drop shackles will give you more squat too __________________ GMC C15 355 SM465 3.73 80 C10 cruiser build thread 79 short stepside crew cab. big and ugly. build thread

04-28-2013, 09:46 PM	#4
rs74 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,957	Re: traction- how to hook up? Has anyone used these. I was thinking about them for my truck but not sure if they will work on a lowered truck. http://calvertracing.com/cart/index....products_id=28 __________________ Roy 85 Short Bed Silverado- Work in progress. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=564818 1987 R10 shortie

04-28-2013, 09:57 PM	#5
INSIDIOUS '86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington Posts: 4,178	Re: traction- how to hook up? They make them for flip kit trucks yes. Those will help with squat angle and wrap up. People run tens easy with just those. Moving weight to the rear will help much as well. Moving the front spring eye up helps alot and not dumping the gas right away too. Wider tires or slicks will be a good idea too Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac 3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217 Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511

04-28-2013, 10:10 PM	#6
Dylan86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 88	Re: traction- how to hook up? i have drop spindles and shackles, it did help a bit... and also am interested in the caltracs also rs74. can you install them on a 4" drop? are they worth the coin?

04-28-2013, 10:17 PM	#7
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,257	Re: traction- how to hook up? Caltracs work!! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment " Last edited by KQQL IT; 04-28-2013 at 10:41 PM.

04-28-2013, 10:37 PM	#8
Gigem Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lakeway, TX Posts: 335	Re: traction- how to hook up? Stupid question, but do you have a positraction rear end? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 GMC Sierra Grande (current truck) 1980 Chevy Stepside (gone) 1987 Chevy Blazer (gone) 1972 Chevelle SS Convertible (gone) 1973 Chevy Corvette (gone) 1967 Chevy Camaro (STOLEN!)

04-28-2013, 10:45 PM	#9
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,257	Re: traction- how to hook up? Gears, posi,shocks and tires are all part of the equation making trucks hook. Then you will find all the other weak links in the drive train Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

04-28-2013, 10:46 PM	#10
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,257	Re: traction- how to hook up? Gears, posi,shocks and tires are all part of the equation making trucks hook. Then you will find all the other weak links in the drive train Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

04-28-2013, 11:41 PM	#12
cory d Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arlington WA Posts: 1,728	Re: traction- how to hook up? a big factor is what you have under the hood. to get the most traction from my truck (2.73 gears and mild HP 350) isnt goin to be the same as a 500HP truck with 3.73 __________________ GMC C15 355 SM465 3.73 80 C10 cruiser build thread 79 short stepside crew cab. big and ugly. build thread

04-28-2013, 11:50 PM	#13
Hook0215 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Harahan, La. Posts: 54	Re: traction- how to hook up? Caltracs... Posted via Mobile Device

04-29-2013, 07:28 AM	#14
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Re: traction- how to hook up? I use a custom set of traction bars on my 12 bolt. Better launch but with no weight, the ZZ4 just tears up tires. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

04-29-2013, 11:01 AM	#15
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: traction- how to hook up? Right now those gears are your worst enemy. Swap the 2.73's for 3.73's or 4.10's. __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

04-29-2013, 11:15 AM	#16
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,257	Re: traction- how to hook up? Chemist mine hooks with 0 weight added. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "



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04-29-2013, 07:46 PM	#17
Dylan86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 88	Re: traction- how to hook up? yes i have posi.... and swapping to 3.73 or 4.10 would make my problem worse- my torque would be increased to the wheels. i have too much spin as it is. i think im gunna go caltracs and put some fatter tires on her. thanks guys

04-29-2013, 08:07 PM	#19
Dylan86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 88	Re: traction- how to hook up? really? thats good to know. my only issue is i have a th350 trans, if i had 4.10s i would almost be red lining before i could go hi-way speeds

04-29-2013, 08:11 PM	#20
INSIDIOUS '86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington Posts: 4,178	Re: traction- how to hook up? I have a th350 as well. I'm turning about 3-3500rpm avg with 3:73 and 27in tall tires. Tops at 110 @6krpm by my speedometer. A 200r4 from ck or a 700r4 from patc will make them very livable though. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac 3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217 Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511

04-29-2013, 08:33 PM	#21
Dylan86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 88	Re: traction- how to hook up? would maybe 3.42s be the best choice then?

04-29-2013, 09:17 PM	#23
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,257	Re: traction- how to hook up? All mine wanted to do was wheel hop with street tires. In reference to Dylan I changed converter to 3500 ish stall. 3:82 gears cal tracs Hoosier drag radials. Went from 2.20 to 1.67 60' at the strip. And 13.50's to 12.20's all at 109-110 mph it can be done. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

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