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Old 08-24-2015, 09:07 PM   #26
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I am going to jump in and ruffle some feathers,if it has the original miles/running gear and stepside long bed is it worth more than one the same year that has had the front end parts /seats/steering/wiring/radio/fuel tanks/engine on and on changed TO NON ORIGINAL,???,trucks original even with dents rott ect to most collectors are worth more than a non original truck,thats why theres oem original and non original just a thought,
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:13 AM   #27
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He's at least 10K too high IMO. Granted it's super rare, but needs restoration.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:16 AM   #28
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I saw this one in person. Beyond overpriced to say the least.
Makes the OP look like a good deal.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:06 AM   #29
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what do you think a collector would price this truck at,now I am really going to piss someone off I have a lot of cars/trucks,chevys/fords/ihc/few dodges
I have a 59 f100 been in the family since new all original,its worth $32,000
I have a 59 f100 sub frame with a 429/c6 frame cut short,it.s only worth $9000
its all about original and how rare,72 Plymouth cricket cant even get a price for it its,so rare
68 chevy van option v8 283 rare
64 international 3/4 pickup 14,000 original miles,whats rare it has a option power steering,
maybe this truck is worth it I don't no without looking at it ,but im sure a collector has already contacted the seller for info on it,8ft stepside with low miles original running gear theres a lot to work with there,heck it might have been the first one made,who no s,,but I guess I am a old school original guy,
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Old 08-25-2015, 04:58 AM   #30
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keep in mind, nobody knows what the reserve is. No bids yet. Hell the reserve might be $7500. The $20k might be just incase for some dip s t that ambles along..




still no bids
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:41 AM   #32
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what do you think a collector would price this truck at,now I am really going to piss someone off I have a lot of cars/trucks,chevys/fords/ihc/few dodges
I have a 59 f100 been in the family since new all original,its worth $32,000
I have a 59 f100 sub frame with a 429/c6 frame cut short,it.s only worth $9000
its all about original and how rare,72 Plymouth cricket cant even get a price for it its,so rare
68 chevy van option v8 283 rare
64 international 3/4 pickup 14,000 original miles,whats rare it has a option power steering,
maybe this truck is worth it I don't no without looking at it ,but im sure a collector has already contacted the seller for info on it,8ft stepside with low miles original running gear theres a lot to work with there,heck it might have been the first one made,who no s,,but I guess I am a old school original guy,

First off, not pissed or ruffled. Sounds as though you have a nice collection. I see the point your trying to make as an original rare truck could be worth some money. Not even rare, just a nice original.

But to me, this one dont fit the bill. Of course we still don't know the real asking price. IMO, i see nothing rare about it. And to your point a person would have to look at it, i agree because the seller has done a piss poor job advertising it to fetch anything substantial. To me with whats presented, it's just a neat little "well used" but well kept not rare truck that needs some work with a cobbled front bumper with unknown rust that says "primarily" in front fenders. Who knows... Vague pics. What else..? Im at $8500 tops
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:57 AM   #33
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It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it, regardless of what the seller thinks. Everybody's junk is worth more when they are selling it
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:02 AM   #34
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I don't think a "collector" would even bother to look at this truck.

GM produced 18,632 of those trucks in 1968. Hardly rare. They might be "rare" today, but only because they're the ugly ducking time has forgotten because no one has interest in them. Rare does not always equal desirable, or valuable.

I think no bids at the $1,000 start speaks volumes.

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If you want to talk about "rare" AND "desirable", GM only built 985 2wd blazers in 1970, 1,277 in 1970 and a whopping 3,357 in 1972.
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I am going to jump in and ruffle some feathers,if it has the original miles/running gear and stepside long bed is it worth more than one the same year that has had the front end parts /seats/steering/wiring/radio/fuel tanks/engine on and on changed TO NON ORIGINAL,???,trucks original even with dents rott ect to most collectors are worth more than a non original truck,thats why theres oem original and non original just a thought,
Not to start an argument or anything like that. But since you started your quote as a question I feel it's ok to answer it.
Not to me. If a vehicle like these old trucks is original and "you can live with what's there" then yes more value added. If you are looking at original and say "i'll have to change that", then no. Cost the same to pull out and replace an original motor as a swapped motor. etc.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:30 AM   #36
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I'm a young guy. One could probably say a typical example of the future guys into these things.

"All original" means nothing to me. Just not at all what I am into. I don't keep things stock. Stock is boring.

I don't mean to offend, but I will not apologize for my opinion either.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:22 PM   #37
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Since there is a general consensus about original trucks being more valuable than modified trucks I thought I'd submit my opinion about that.

I don't think original means more valuable, and actually, it's been proven (auctions are a measure of value regardless of inflation) that modified trucks have sold for higher values than original trucks. You can look to Delmo's builds, N2Billet's builds and see easily that the course for value versus originality versus modified is blurred, and certainly not black and white as some people are having it portrayed. The same would go for the many other high quality modified builds of these trucks.

The question to ask yourself would be, what is original? How is a truck original if "it's only had one repaint and the seat has been reupholstered"? I see those posts constantly, I like to call them, "All original, EXCEPT" posts.

Joesjunk has a beautiful original example, and I take absolutely nothing away from it. Is it worth more than N2Billets' Hazel build; I don't think so (my opinion only).

Rather, I think it's sad and unfortunate to try and compare the value of those two trucks on a logical scale, they aren't even close to the same, but it demeans the integrity and purpose of what those vehicles are in the first place.

The finite answer to the question, is original is more valuable than stock? is:

It doesn't make a truck any less cool or lower the sentimental value of a vehicle just because one type of truck sold and/or continues to sell for more $$ than another example.

It can be debated using whatever words you like but the easier and most accurate bet is the factual number of dollar bills exchanging hands at the end of the day.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:36 PM   #38
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Your case in point with an even closer comparison. Look at these 3 White over Blue trucks 2 68s and a 67. 2 Chevys, one GMC. Not even approachable as "Originals" as all three have LSX V8s, 2 Vortec 5.3s, a 2001 and a 2005 60K miles to 170K miles, the third has an LS1. Then each one has varying stages of interiors, digital dashs, custom suspensions and transplanted rear-ends. Look at the paint. No two of these are within a few thousand dollars in Salable Value. The bottom photo, 3 trucks have Vortecs, a fourth with a straight 6, and of course paint and trim. Mine and local friends trucks, no two alike in realistic values, none.

You're right on Target, it's not easy to broad brush these trucks values.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:36 PM   #39
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As most of us on this forum owns one or more of these trucks, why wouldn't we embrace the hype and welcome the inflated prices these trucks are bringing now? I could see if you were just getting into the C10 game and didn't want to pay the price of admission, but this helps all of us and our addiction in the long run. Want sticker shock? Just go look at new fully loaded trucks on dealers lots that are half plastic and will be worth half of what they cost in 3-4 years. C10's are only gonna go up! I personally hope everyone gets double what their truck is worth, as long as its condition and pedigee is accurately presented. Just my two cents.
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As far as the Ebay guy, I think hes banking on the low miles to bring the money/
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:09 PM   #41
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Hmmmmm this gives me a idea. I have a 99.999% rot free (with out any replacement panels) 72 AC almost complete cab (Lt. blue) that I was considering on selling for about $3 to 4,000 but now also I have seen on this site a complete "newly fixed" rust/rot free cab for the asking price of $9,000 +, so maybe I will re thing my asking price to just NORTH of $10,000 or so. Why not right!!!
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no one knows what he actually wants for it. If he really wants 20k personally I think he's smoking something but you never know there might be that one guy out there who wants that truck that bad. If he gets it good for him. I have a long bed I wish mine was worth that much but I see really nice long beds for sale for like 6k. But I don't know if I'll ever sell my truck.

Value and how much people get is all about what's popular. I like highly modified, original, and super stock to me it all depends on the truck and what you are going for. My style is 1970's like something my dad would've driven in high school. I love the way people did there muscle cars and trucks back then. I'm all about the slot mags and the fat tires. It just sucks because the more popular they get the more expensive parts get too so if your a guy like me who loves old trucks and cars you can't afford to do everything you want to it I have to drive mine everyday and keep it reliable so that's where I send my time and money not necessarily on making it look like I want it to
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As far as the Ebay guy, I think hes banking on the low miles to bring the money/
Maybe but it's still a 47 year old truck and that does bring to the table a hole lot of problems as we all know. just my $.02
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but it has the original 8 trac player! looks like a good stater truck for a grand!
WOW I still have my old Craig Pioneer 4 track player, I guess I can install it and ask maybe North of let say $30,000
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my option I HATE to see these trucks tore down and modifield,this was done a lot in the 70s-80s and with a lot of these trucks rotten away do to rust, its very hard to find a original,my option anyone can build a truck with non oem parts but very few can take the time and rebuild one back to original,original is
everything but wiper blades/brakes/oil/filters/gas lol/tires/material on seats/floor rubber/ect those wear out or need to be changed no matter what year,original is example 67 pickup with oem original 67 pickup parts.original is a women that has what she was born with,non original is a women that had a area inlarged yes looks good and cost a lot but not oem woman LOL that's the difference,and I agree the price on the truck with out looking at it is way to high,
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If a truck seller asks $10,000 for a truck and ends up selling said truck for $7,500 is it not worth that amount? Not to me or you, but to the buyer it was. Probably somebody with more liquid capitol that most. Buyer (probably newbie wanting to get into the hobby) feeling that he got a bargain as he haggled hard. Got him down 25% from original asking price. Might be he's always been hoping for $7,500. (still too high IMO)
I will hold off stating what I think the truck is worth (much less) as the price of these old trucks just keeps going up.
Every time one of these shops on TV takes a beat up old truck and in less than the one hour episode transforms it into a cool old classic, folks out there think "I could do that".
And another club member is born. They gotta start somewhere. Remember guys "it takes all kinds to keep this hobby thriving like it is now". It takes buyers, sellers, flippers, parting out guys, collectors, investors, shops, inventors, all of these folks are making money off of this hobby and I am darn glad of it. Unfortunately the days of good $500 trucks is gone or soon to be.
In your last line this reminds me ( i am 63) when I bought a 55 Bel Air electric windows & frt seat all there and with that good old patina paint job and drove it home for $50 bucks, well I was 19 yrs old then. Wow how things have changed now that $50 car is north of $15,000
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Look at any craigslist here in California its rediculous what people want for these trucks. Don't get me wrong I've always loved them they are my favorite trucks but people ask $10k for a beat up long bed cause it has "patina". I have a beat up long bed and I love the patina but I paid $3800 for it and got exactly what I wanted an old chevy I could drive, use, and fix up as I drive it and mine is actually reliable
Ya mine too was from Craigslist for $3,200 and I bought it for $2,500
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I'm a young guy. One could probably say a typical example of the future guys into these things.

"All original" means nothing to me. Just not at all what I am into. I don't keep things stock. Stock is boring.

I don't mean to offend, but I will not apologize for my opinion either.
Well you can do whatever you want to an original vehicle but if it is pristine shape you are lowering it's value no matter what you think. A custom is just that custom to you. If the truck or car is severely in need of work yes customized all you want since it beats making it scrap. Otherwise you are wrong and that's my opinion.

Here are two examples of stock. This is history and should be appreciated as such and not easily discarded.

One is a 1970 GMC C1500 (59K miles) the other is a 1959 Cadillac Coupe DeVille (42K miles). Both are rust free NO BONDO, and all near mint interiors with minor exterior blemishes. Plus with lacquer paint. All stock under the hood.

You would decrease the values of these vehicles if you played with them.

Sorry but this may upset some but as time goes on less and less originals still exist so if the vehicle is desirable an original one can only become more valuable. I think recent auctions seem to bear out original is in.

Now is it not strange I like Cadillacs and trucks?

I just think it's a shame to take a survivor that is a #3 or #2 collectible and alter it.
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He's at least 10K too high IMO. Granted it's super rare, but needs restoration.
Like I said be for it's 47 yrs old with that said the old wallet just got SMALLER and smaller!
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That truck is worth exactly the amount of money a willing buyer will pay. Putting it on for a million dollars doesn't do bupkis to the value of these trucks. I just don't get why anyone would get on a site for old trucks and bloviate about how they aren't worth anything.
Any possibility that a vehicle can just increase in value because people like them and they are getting rarer? I drive mine every day. I get compliments all the time. Some of those folks decide they want one. That increases demand. Somebody else totals one. That decreases supply. Rare is a relative term.
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