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Redraider · 01-13-2020, 11:10 PM

Hi all,

I have a chance to buy a L86/6L80, low mileage for $1800. If I do it will end up in a '51 truck. Is this a good swap drive train? Are all the new stuff software deletable? It will set for quite awhile as I am not at all ready to start this project.

Thanks

Redraider

**mongocanfly** · 01-13-2020, 11:59 PM

That's a great price on that...but I'm not up on the new stuff..

Redraider · 01-14-2020, 11:44 AM

Hi all,

I posted this question yesterday in a different part of this forum, but it looks like I should have done it here, so here goes.

I have a chance to buy an L86/6L80 like new, low miles, complete for $1800. My questions are; is this a good system to swap into my 1951 5 window build? Can I assume correctly that all the un-necessary things that come with this gen system are still removable through software/hardware mods? Is there after market support for this system to be used in an old truck?

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, as I am totally out of my knowledge base

Thanks

Redraider

**clay68c10** · 01-14-2020, 12:34 PM

That's an incredible price for a genV 6.2
It is more complicated than a gen3, but do-able. Someone with more knowledge will chime in eventually.
You can go look at LS1tech.com for more info; https://ls1tech.com/forums/

kipps · 01-14-2020, 03:36 PM

That would be a dream drivetrain! And for that money, don't waste a minute grabbing it up!

It will definitely be more work than a gen III, but I'm sure it's still doable. I've seen quite a few gen 5 swaps on various forums, so the precedent has been set.

**70cst** · 01-16-2020, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraider

Hi all,

I posted this question yesterday in a different part of this forum, but it looks like I should have done it here, so here goes.

I have a chance to buy an L86/6L80 like new, low miles, complete for $1800. My questions are; is this a good system to swap into my 1951 5 window build? Can I assume correctly that all the un-necessary things that come with this gen system are still removable through software/hardware mods? Is there after market support for this system to be used in an old truck?

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, as I am totally out of my knowledge base

Thanks

Redraider

Please post just one thread and delete your duplicates per the rules. Thanks

GASoline71 · 01-17-2020, 12:50 AM

Isn't that the EcoTech system, that injects fuel directly into the combustion chamber and not into the intake manifold/runner?

Gary?

weq92f · 01-17-2020, 04:09 PM

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No power steering pump either...you'll either have to have none or go aftermarket to get one retrofitted, which may bring other issues...

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/inst...eries-engines/

-klb

LS short box · 01-17-2020, 06:14 PM

As I recall that combo doesn't have a power steering pump. It's electric stock.
Also that price is really too good to be true. Make sure you know the seller and check the engine vin to make sure it's not hot.
It's priced at least $3000 under typical market price.

kipps · 01-18-2020, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS short box

As I recall that combo doesn't have a power steering pump. It's electric stock.

Definitely will be a snag with this drivetrain. The simplest, but least elegant solution, is to use an electric power steering pump. I'm told that Volvo used such.

A number of aftermarket companies have jumped on this problem, and offer complete front accessory replacement kits that include a steering pump.

GM's new 6.6 gas engine appears to be based on the same LT architecture, and is using a power steering pump. Hopefully the front accessories of that 6.6 will easily swap over to the other LT engines.

LS short box · 01-18-2020, 06:15 PM

I think Hot Rod magazine did a article on the LT engines and adding belt driven power steering pump.
Also check over on LS1tech I believe there is a write up in the conversions section. I scanned over it and it sounded like a good route to take.

cornerstone · 01-22-2020, 12:24 AM

Hey there Redraider... I'm 90% finished with my gen 5 swap if you have any questions feel free to pm me and I'll do my best. If you decide against the L86 for any reason let me know please, I'd be interested... I'm not too far away from Graham.

**Clyde65** · 01-26-2020, 09:51 PM

BRP has options for you.

Power steering is a biggie, the vacuum pump is another. I put an l83/6l80 in my dads crewcab and it was a learning experience but worked out well.
Use an Aeromotive fuel pump, pre-filter and a post filter with return.

http://www.brphotrods.com/?gclid=EAI...SAAEgL_AvD_BwE

This guy did the PCM and harness for us. Great guy and very very helpful.

https://www.standaloneharness.com/ge...1-l86-l83.html

01-13-2020, 11:10 PM	#1
Redraider Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Graham, Texas Posts: 18	drive train?? Hi all, I have a chance to buy a L86/6L80, low mileage for $1800. If I do it will end up in a '51 truck. Is this a good swap drive train? Are all the new stuff software deletable? It will set for quite awhile as I am not at all ready to start this project. Thanks Redraider

01-13-2020, 11:59 PM	#2
mongocanfly Post Whore Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alabama Posts: 14,671	Re: drive train?? That's a great price on that...but I'm not up on the new stuff.. __________________ Mongo...aka Greg RIP Dad RIP Jesse 1981 C30 LQ9 NV4500..http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=753598 Mongos AD- LS3 TR6060...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...34#post8522334 Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...63#post8082563 2023 Chevy Z71..daily driver

01-14-2020, 11:44 AM	#3
Redraider Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Graham, Texas Posts: 18	drive train?? Hi all, I posted this question yesterday in a different part of this forum, but it looks like I should have done it here, so here goes. I have a chance to buy an L86/6L80 like new, low miles, complete for $1800. My questions are; is this a good system to swap into my 1951 5 window build? Can I assume correctly that all the un-necessary things that come with this gen system are still removable through software/hardware mods? Is there after market support for this system to be used in an old truck? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, as I am totally out of my knowledge base Thanks Redraider

01-14-2020, 12:34 PM	#4
clay68c10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 2,991	Re: drive train?? That's an incredible price for a genV 6.2 It is more complicated than a gen3, but do-able. Someone with more knowledge will chime in eventually. You can go look at LS1tech.com for more info; https://ls1tech.com/forums/ __________________ ClusterTruck: 68 C10 Bought in 89, wrecked in 03. Slow low $ rebuild started '17. 6.0 & TKO http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=788602 93 K1500 Short Step, 350, NV4500, EBL flash ECU. Vortec heads & roller cam someday... 05 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. 3” lift & 6-speed 02 E320 the insurance total “free car” 13 Tahoe LTZ

01-14-2020, 03:36 PM	#5
kipps Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: North-central Virginia Posts: 1,104	Re: drive train?? That would be a dream drivetrain! And for that money, don't waste a minute grabbing it up! It will definitely be more work than a gen III, but I'm sure it's still doable. I've seen quite a few gen 5 swaps on various forums, so the precedent has been set. __________________ 1987 C6P V20 truck, 2010 LMG 5.3, AFM delete, 2010 Camaro exhaust manifolds, 1997 nv4500, 1991 np241c, hydroboost, 2005 14bff axle & driveshaft, drop-n-lock gooseneck, 4.10 gears, stock suspension, rims, and tires. Still a work in progress. Any questions or suggestions are welcome!

01-17-2020, 04:09 PM	#8
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,224	Re: drive train?? . No power steering pump either...you'll either have to have none or go aftermarket to get one retrofitted, which may bring other issues... https://www.hotrod.com/articles/inst...eries-engines/ -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

01-17-2020, 06:14 PM	#9
LS short box Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Carlos MN Posts: 2,134	Re: drive train?? As I recall that combo doesn't have a power steering pump. It's electric stock. Also that price is really too good to be true. Make sure you know the seller and check the engine vin to make sure it's not hot. It's priced at least $3000 under typical market price.

01-18-2020, 06:15 PM	#11
LS short box Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Carlos MN Posts: 2,134	Re: drive train?? I think Hot Rod magazine did a article on the LT engines and adding belt driven power steering pump. Also check over on LS1tech I believe there is a write up in the conversions section. I scanned over it and it sounded like a good route to take.

01-22-2020, 12:24 AM	#12
cornerstone Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Azle,Texas Posts: 2,248	Re: drive train?? Hey there Redraider... I'm 90% finished with my gen 5 swap if you have any questions feel free to pm me and I'll do my best. If you decide against the L86 for any reason let me know please, I'd be interested... I'm not too far away from Graham. __________________ Brian 1972 C10, "Loyd", LWB to SWB, 5.3, L83/6L80e, 4:11 Tru Trac, Air Ride, VA, DD, 20" Coys, 4 wheel disc, A quick LS swap turned into a 6 year frame off resto-mod.

01-26-2020, 09:51 PM	#13
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,546	Re: drive train?? BRP has options for you. Power steering is a biggie, the vacuum pump is another. I put an l83/6l80 in my dads crewcab and it was a learning experience but worked out well. Use an Aeromotive fuel pump, pre-filter and a post filter with return. http://www.brphotrods.com/?gclid=EAI...SAAEgL_AvD_BwE This guy did the PCM and harness for us. Great guy and very very helpful. https://www.standaloneharness.com/ge...1-l86-l83.html __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

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