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just wondering. has anyone here used the Edelbrock IAS shocks? are they any good? and another thing, my horn doesent work. it works only when I put a fuse in ther, and when I honk it, it blows the fuse. probly just a short. but dont know how to find out if it is a short. and another thing. my left head light is dimming and sometimes goes out, so I want to get a new light. But the thing is, is that it doesent have the 3 prong plug in like the others. it has 2 studs in a pattern of a triangle like the standerd plug is and one midle prong *high beams?* and no where around her can I find them. any sugestions? thank you guys. I am a newbe from lynnwood wa, with a 79 GMC c 1500 trailering spec. 350/350 with lots of TLC needed. thank you all. Matt
 
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RIP ELJAY   Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby Last edited by 79gmcc15; 11-02-2004 at 05:55 AM. |
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11-02-2004, 07:55 AM
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I have IAS's on the front of my 77 C-10 2WD, and I really like them. Recommend them in a heart beat.
I had KYB's on there before, and they seemed little better than the ancient originals...though I have to qualify that I have air shocks on the back, and their damping is pretty tight, aired up or not. Had that same situation years ago on an old Olds  Cutlass, and had to go with stiff front shocks so the car wouldn't "pivot" around the stiff rear air shocks, i.e., the front end continued to bob a bit after bumps while the rear stayed planted.Hope that helps. Brian |
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11-02-2004, 08:38 PM
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RIP ELJAY Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby Last edited by 79gmcc15; 11-02-2004 at 08:52 PM. |
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11-02-2004, 09:46 PM
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There is a difference between air bags and air shocks. The bags replace the springs, while the shox are regular shox with air lines routed to a convenient access point, like near the license plate, so you can air them up when carrying a heavy load. If the truck is unloaded, they'll raise the ride height in the back maybe an inch or two.
I hadn't thought of it until you said it, but they do in effect act as a rear sway bar when inflated...how hard they're inflated is up to you. I think they usually max ~140 psi, but you can set them wherever you want/need. I realized the slightly better handling when I went to get a load of mulch recently and aired them up in advance. It did handle better  though the stance might have looked a bit odd for the slightly raised-butt appearance :p You can also put on a rear sway bar to improve handling. I haven't done that (yet!). I think the Burbs tended to come with a rear sway bar (anyone?), and it should just bolt-on but not be too treacherous when also combined with a full load and aired-up shocks. And if it did, that's why God gave us oversteer and learning curves  Brian |
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11-02-2004, 09:51 PM
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Forgot one of your questions
 I think the ones on there now are Gabriel Hijackers, but I believe Monroe has an equivalent. The Cutlass used the Gabriels (years! ago), maybe because they were the only ones I knew of. Brian |
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11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
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11-03-2004, 06:49 AM
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IMO, the air shocks are the way to go if you haul a load but only occasionly. They're damping action will be constant, though, since the inflation feature doesn't change the hydraulic valving in the shock itself.
They aren't available on all four wheels that I know of, only the rears. Maybe on some 4x4 applications, but I would kinda doubt it since their main role is for leveling the rear of the truck when hauling a heavy load. That they make a greater roll stiffness is a by product...+ or -, depending your POV. From what you're saying, going with the rear sway bar might be a lot cheaper as a first step if it's handling as the higher priority. I'd check prices though. I've found the IAS's for ~$60 each (x2 for the fronts) and the air shocks are maybe $100-120/pair? It may not be the money pill you think. As far as rear sway bar, there are aftermarket sources, but also salvage yards would be cheaper And good luck. I know what you mean re: reading along and learning. This site's phenomenal for that. Someone's been there and done that and can either encourage or warn you off  Brian |
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11-03-2004, 04:44 PM
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sorry to threadjack, but the truck doesn't have front shocks at all(helps get the front end raised up when taking off), should i get IAS shocks or should i just keep the old worn out junkers on the rear?
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11-03-2004, 05:27 PM
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11-07-2004, 09:17 PM
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Having no front shocks would drive me nuts, but then that's me. The IAS's *will* keep the front end planted, so if you don't want that result, don't use them. If you put them only on the front and leave the old rears, I suspect it will be wierd for sure. Brian |
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11-07-2004, 09:27 PM
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Sorry it took a while to get back to you. The rear sway bar is just an easy bolt-on; no sweat. The air bags you're looking at from Whitney are, to my knowledge, overload springs or auxiliary springs. The bagged rides some guys have here on the board are bags in place of springs, and that's totally different. The overload/auxiliary airbags from Whitney won't,I don't believe, really make much damping difference, at least not when they're uninflated. Beyond that, I'm out of my element. I guess when inflated, they might have some kind of modest damping effect (due to general friction with the spring I imagine), but I can't say first hand 'cause I've never tried 'em. For me, the front/rear bars, IAS's up front and air shocks in the rear offers a flexibility I personaly like: good handling and load carrying capacity when I want it. You're welcome on the advice; hope it helps, and good luck! Brian |
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11-09-2004, 03:58 AM
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Thank you so much. I think that if I put new springs on and ISA's up frunt and air shocks in the back. I might get a comparable ride to fully baged ride, for alot cheeper. is it hard to put shocks on? do you need a tourk wrench? or would a long breaker bar work? because my place and tools is pretty limited. oh I also found out that the monrow shocks can handle 100 pounds more then the highjakers, odly. and thank you for your help!
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11-09-2004, 06:42 AM
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Shocks are really, really easy on these trucks. You'll feel like a pro
No torque wrench needed. No breaker bar need that I've encountered, though "your mileage may vary" :p The only oddity is drilling a hole in the frame or a bumper support to attach the airvalve (looks like a tire valve). You'll want it someplace easy to get to. You might even find a hole that's already there with good access. IAS's and everyone's instructions will show you just to compress the rubber bushings a bit, but not to bottom out the nuts. Also, I always spray a bit of silicone on them inside and out to prevent squeaks. Not essential, but why risk a revisit for a few seconds' effort? Also, others have rightly noted to check the tightness of the upper front shock mounting bolt. If they get loose, they can wallow out a hole in the frame. I've been known to put locktite on such things in the past. Again, why revisit.... The only trick to the gas charged shocks like IAS, KYB, etc is that they come relatively compressed and are bound by a plastic string. Don't cut the string until they're mounted. Not a catastrophe if you do, but then you'll have to attach the shock to the lower mount, and really lean on the upper part of it to compress it enough to get to the upper mounting bolt. Don't ask me how I know this, several times over If it does get cut before mounting, you can also mount the upper end, then use a floor jack to compress the bottom part of the shock enough to mount it. Nothing explodes, though...the shock just expands slowly and as does your frustration realizing what you just did. Anyway, have fun. You'll do fine. Brian |
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start a new job tomarrow. wish me luck! and thank you so very much for your help... first thing for me to do to the truck, frount sway and rear. then air shocks then the most $$$$ part, the ISA's. $70 each. not cheap lol. well to me :p thanks again!
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