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Old 01-13-2009, 09:41 PM   #1
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New body work question-cab mounts

Do you guys think I can jack the truck up enough to get the body mounts off without taking the steering column loose? I assume the brake line will be mandatory, but was hoping to leave the steering.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:43 PM   #2
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

Also, is there any big difference for an occasional driver truck between the poly and the rubber mounts?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:13 PM   #3
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

This may not help you, but I don't think there would be enough room to get the mounts out by lifting the cab without pulling the column loose. If your ragjoint has ever been replaced then it's just 2 bolts attaching the column to the steering box. I just went ahead and pulled mine so I could do the whole frame while I was at it.

As for the bushings, I bought the rubber. I didn't want to stiffen the truck up any, but to most people there wouldn't be a big enough difference for it to really matter.

Keep in mind that these are strictly my opinions.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:07 AM   #4
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

I pulled out a 2 inch body lift and installed new cab mounts last week with a jack and without disconnecting the steering column or brake lines.

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Old 01-14-2009, 07:42 AM   #5
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

I also put mine in last week ,jacked up one side at a time did not disconnect anything put in rubber mounts.

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Old 01-14-2009, 08:46 AM   #6
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

poly mounts might be squeaky... friend had them in the spring shackles of his firebird, and they were noisy.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:52 AM   #7
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poly mounts might be squeaky... friend had them in the spring shackles of his firebird, and they were noisy.
Yes, you have to use lots of white lithium grease, or you get the squeakies.
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poly mounts might be squeaky... friend had them in the spring shackles of his firebird, and they were noisy.
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Yes, you have to use lots of white lithium grease, or you get the squeakies.
Yes that is the case with suspensions but, I don't know if the body mounts would be like that.
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Yes that is the case with suspensions but, I don't know if the body mounts would be like that.
Yep, I was referring primarily to the suspension bushings, but if the body mounts aren't kept tight, the squeaks will start to occur when the metal sleeve starts to move inside the bushing.
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

Thanks guys, that helps a lot. I have a set of rubber bushings on the way. I had one of the bolts of the rag joint sheer off shortly after I converted to power steering and I didn't want to risk taking that apart again. However, that might empower me to put a borgeson joint in like I should have the first time!!
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Yep, I was referring primarily to the suspension bushings, but if the body mounts aren't kept tight, the squeaks will start to occur when the metal sleeve starts to move inside the bushing.
Agreed...
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...However, that might empower me to put a borgeson joint in like I should have the first time!!
Will that be a bushing-type of joint? I ask because I tried to run a direct steering link set up like my drag car for the power steering on my truck and the vibration was very annoying. The rag joint instantly made everthing better. There are much nicer and sturdier rag joints available today. Just a little of my experience.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:17 PM   #13
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

I'm not sure what you mean. I think the ones I saw used a double d where they joined. Is that what you are referring to. It could be I had the rag joint on wrong, but what really bothered me was what if it wasn't that, and the geometry of the shaft and alignment with the steering box was off a little causing it to have too much pressure on it. I haven't really had much time to drive it after it was put back on. I don't think it looks visibly out of line, but someone mentioned they thought it did in looking at a photo. Although the same person was advocating a borgeson joint saying they were safer.

I found some of those old posts. The guy was recommending a dampener by the same company when the joint was installed.

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Old 01-14-2009, 09:11 PM   #14
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Re: New body work question-cab mounts

I have a splined-to-DD adapter at the column. The first iteration, I used splined-to-DD needle-bearing joint adapter at the steering box and that's when the vibration was quite noticeable. I replaced the adapter at the steering box with an Ididit rag joint and things were so much nicer.
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