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***Liz*** · 01-13-2009, 09:12 AM

He is probably at school. Lets hope he was somewhat joking and checks in later

oldblue1968chevy · 01-13-2009, 10:46 AM

im in cad class lol..i didndt sleep good last nite..so i didnt go to sleep...what would've happened lol....thanks for the replys i'll be lookin for #'s again after i figure out our algebra i missed yesterday

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 11:09 AM

breathing in diesel... NOT good. if you get this before you head home... you should probably think about a wood stove in the shop, or just extra clothes.

diesel heaters in the shop can be harmful and fatal http://healthandenergy.com/deadly_diesel_fumes.htm
It might seem like no big deal... but this can give you serious problems...

You saw the way people reacted, right? this was not a normal way for board members to react. this reaction was out of EXTREME concern.

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 11:14 AM

but, besides that mess.... 68 or later, because you have acc holes on heads, pre 81 because of dipstick location, 73-74 because of alternator and accessory locations... what year did GM start casting numbers behind the alternator? If you can't find any, then they are behind the drivers side head... VERY hard to get to/see.

1 vote for 350 because of rams horns, 1 vote for 350 because of ballancer, couple votes for 327 (don't know why)

larry may · 01-13-2009, 11:23 AM

where's the numbers. Didja figer it out? what is the critter .

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larry may

where's the numbers. Didja figer it out? what is the critter .

it's a MOUSE!

**special-K** · 01-13-2009, 12:15 PM

Glad you`re alright.You were prolly oxygen deprived as well as mildly poisoned by carbon momoxide.It`s a silent killer.My friend Pete is dead from staying in hiis shop late working on his own stuff (`72 shortbed) and breating exhaust.His brother found him dead on the floor in the morning.It was a family owned shop,Father,2 sons,and daughter.Pretty hard to take.

The 327s and all early small blocks had the oild spout in the manifold.The question is was that ever changed.My guess relies on it being original to the motor.Check for notcked balancer while you`re getting your hair dirty next time.

Hey Ellen!!! I built a`68 truck large journal 327(steel crank) witing or my`67 project.I can`t wait to run it.You have impeccable taste imn motors.

Richard8971 · 01-13-2009, 08:18 PM

Cool, glad you are alright.

Don

oldblue1968chevy · 01-13-2009, 09:51 PM

okay, just got back out from the shop, ran the diesle heater again (yeah, i no its just cold out there) i tinkered with the radio and lookin for the numbers while dad, yeah it suprized me too!) came out there and tore apart my heater, great tomorow at 7am 25* i gotta drive 18 mile round trip to school with no heat!!) but hopefully by next day it should be blowin warm and hard...anywho, i was on the creeper creepin round lookin up at the bellhousing and below the distributor, but I DIDNT SEE ANYTHIGN! where exactly should i look and is there a better way to find this,,,i really wanna know wat motor ive got now! but got the numbers on the inside of the door.....i'll look those up myself later on...was lookin' at my rust areas and discovered that i have about 1mm of rust holding the ?edge of my cab corners(rockers) on..thats not good..i'll try to get pics tomrowo..boy i wish i hada nother car to drive id have the truck tore in milloiin pieces(thats why i gotta wait till wre outta school for awhile to do anything major.....

**truckdude239** · 01-13-2009, 10:43 PM

http://www.mortec.com/location.htm read this article

quote " The block casting number on smallblock and big block Chevy V-8 motors is located on a ledge found at the rear of the block, most often on the driver's side. This ledge is below the deck of the block and the ledge forms the mating surface between the block and the transmission bellhousing. Some of the later model blocks have the casting number on the passenger side of this ledge. The number itself can have 6, 7 or 8 numeral digits. They might look like this "361959" or "3970010" or "14015445". The block casting numbers do not have any letters in them. There are sometimes individual letters found on blocks like "GM" or "CFD" for the Central Foundry Division, but they are not part of the block casting number. Also some of the later blocks have the size of the motor shown in liters. You may see a "5.0" (305) or "5.7" (350) cast on the rear ledge of a smallblock or a "7.4" on the side of a big block 454. On the side of some later blocks the last three digits of the block casting number are cast into the block, but these are difficult to see when the engine is in a vehicle." un quote

Bob 68327 · 01-13-2009, 11:26 PM

Here's a picture . Hope this helps .

Bob

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 11:30 PM

the fun part is that it's damn near impossible to see that spot on my truck, and probably on old blue's truck too!

Bob 68327 · 01-13-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator350

the fun part is that it's damn near impossible to see that spot on my truck, and probably on old blue's truck too!

Yeah I thought of that but at least he will know where to look if he can get at it .

Longhorn Man · 01-13-2009, 11:34 PM

it isn't too bad on a small block 2 wheel drive truck. Not bad at all.

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 11:39 PM

mine was small block 2wd from the factory... and I can only make out 2.5 numbers! and that's with my VCs off!!!

Longhorn Man · 01-13-2009, 11:49 PM

interesting. I don't have anything with a small block anymore... but I was always able to get those numbers with nothing but a flashlight, and sometimes a can of brake clean and a rag.

Senator350 · 01-13-2009, 11:52 PM

just to give the young one a decent chance...

green brakleen? or red brakleen?

ETsC10 · 01-14-2009, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator350

the fun part is that it's damn near impossible to see that spot on my truck, and probably on old blue's truck too!

Not easy but Oldblue's engine isn't too dirty soo...
And, Oldblue, glad you're OK!

ET

red69ss · 01-14-2009, 06:42 PM

I reach back there and clean it with a small wire brush and a rag then use a flashlight and a mirror to see it ,tough no matter how you do it

oldblue1968chevy · 01-14-2009, 07:15 PM

BOB, that helped emensly (sp?) i saw that in CAD this AM...inspired me so much ima put the truck in the shop and look for the numbers here in a lil while when im done surfin 67-72 lol thats what i needed in the first place!!!

hopefully its not too dern dirty backt there!

oldblue1968chevy · 01-14-2009, 08:57 PM

Annddddddd...................

I found the numbers thanks to bob they are........

14316379

i looked it up and found it as a 69-85 350

but it was recently rebuilt, so my guess it'd be a lil bigger, am i correct? Thanks for the help hoped yall enjoyed the guessing game!

Bob 68327 · 01-14-2009, 09:20 PM

Glad you found them . Glad I could help ya out .
Bob

Brock396 · 01-14-2009, 11:07 PM

Im new to this site but let me say 14316379 don't seem to be a good #. old blue thought sufix was oa, thats not good eather. could be qa (1966 283ci) or maybe da (1965 283ci)(1968 307ci)???

oldblue1968chevy · 01-14-2009, 11:22 PM

i no its a new model engine, not orignal to the truck

those were the numbers on the block i looked em up seemed to be a 350

Brock396 · 01-14-2009, 11:28 PM

my bad. Mortec web site don,t list 14316379 for some reason (the site i always use)

but i found it on a diffrent site

anyway HAPPY TO BE HERE

Brock

01-13-2009, 09:12 AM	#51
*Liz* Catchy title goes here.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 39,815	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? He is probably at school. Lets hope he was somewhat joking and checks in later

01-13-2009, 10:46 AM	#52
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? im in cad class lol..i didndt sleep good last nite..so i didnt go to sleep...what would've happened lol....thanks for the replys i'll be lookin for #'s again after i figure out our algebra i missed yesterday __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

01-13-2009, 11:09 AM	#53
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? breathing in diesel... NOT good. if you get this before you head home... you should probably think about a wood stove in the shop, or just extra clothes. diesel heaters in the shop can be harmful and fatal http://healthandenergy.com/deadly_diesel_fumes.htm It might seem like no big deal... but this can give you serious problems... You saw the way people reacted, right? this was not a normal way for board members to react. this reaction was out of EXTREME concern. __________________ RN U OVR

01-13-2009, 11:14 AM	#54
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? but, besides that mess.... 68 or later, because you have acc holes on heads, pre 81 because of dipstick location, 73-74 because of alternator and accessory locations... what year did GM start casting numbers behind the alternator? If you can't find any, then they are behind the drivers side head... VERY hard to get to/see. 1 vote for 350 because of rams horns, 1 vote for 350 because of ballancer, couple votes for 327 (don't know why) __________________ RN U OVR

01-13-2009, 11:23 AM	#55
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01-13-2009, 12:15 PM	#57
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? Glad you`re alright.You were prolly oxygen deprived as well as mildly poisoned by carbon momoxide.It`s a silent killer.My friend Pete is dead from staying in hiis shop late working on his own stuff (`72 shortbed) and breating exhaust.His brother found him dead on the floor in the morning.It was a family owned shop,Father,2 sons,and daughter.Pretty hard to take. The 327s and all early small blocks had the oild spout in the manifold.The question is was that ever changed.My guess relies on it being original to the motor.Check for notcked balancer while you`re getting your hair dirty next time. Hey Ellen!!! I built a`68 truck large journal 327(steel crank) witing or my`67 project.I can`t wait to run it.You have impeccable taste imn motors. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 01-13-2009 at 12:17 PM.

01-13-2009, 08:18 PM	#58
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01-13-2009, 09:51 PM	#59
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? okay, just got back out from the shop, ran the diesle heater again (yeah, i no its just cold out there) i tinkered with the radio and lookin for the numbers while dad, yeah it suprized me too!) came out there and tore apart my heater, great tomorow at 7am 25* i gotta drive 18 mile round trip to school with no heat!!) but hopefully by next day it should be blowin warm and hard...anywho, i was on the creeper creepin round lookin up at the bellhousing and below the distributor, but I DIDNT SEE ANYTHIGN! where exactly should i look and is there a better way to find this,,,i really wanna know wat motor ive got now! but got the numbers on the inside of the door.....i'll look those up myself later on...was lookin' at my rust areas and discovered that i have about 1mm of rust holding the ?edge of my cab corners(rockers) on..thats not good..i'll try to get pics tomrowo..boy i wish i hada nother car to drive id have the truck tore in milloiin pieces(thats why i gotta wait till wre outta school for awhile to do anything major..... __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

01-13-2009, 10:43 PM	#60
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,238	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? http://www.mortec.com/location.htm read this article quote " The block casting number on smallblock and big block Chevy V-8 motors is located on a ledge found at the rear of the block, most often on the driver's side. This ledge is below the deck of the block and the ledge forms the mating surface between the block and the transmission bellhousing. Some of the later model blocks have the casting number on the passenger side of this ledge. The number itself can have 6, 7 or 8 numeral digits. They might look like this "361959" or "3970010" or "14015445". The block casting numbers do not have any letters in them. There are sometimes individual letters found on blocks like "GM" or "CFD" for the Central Foundry Division, but they are not part of the block casting number. Also some of the later blocks have the size of the motor shown in liters. You may see a "5.0" (305) or "5.7" (350) cast on the rear ledge of a smallblock or a "7.4" on the side of a big block 454. On the side of some later blocks the last three digits of the block casting number are cast into the block, but these are difficult to see when the engine is in a vehicle." un quote __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-13-2009, 11:26 PM	#61
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? Here's a picture . Hope this helps . Bob Attached Images __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

01-13-2009, 11:30 PM	#62
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? the fun part is that it's damn near impossible to see that spot on my truck, and probably on old blue's truck too! __________________ RN U OVR

01-13-2009, 11:34 PM	#64
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? it isn't too bad on a small block 2 wheel drive truck. Not bad at all.

01-13-2009, 11:39 PM	#65
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? mine was small block 2wd from the factory... and I can only make out 2.5 numbers! and that's with my VCs off!!! __________________ RN U OVR

01-13-2009, 11:49 PM	#66
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? interesting. I don't have anything with a small block anymore... but I was always able to get those numbers with nothing but a flashlight, and sometimes a can of brake clean and a rag.

01-13-2009, 11:52 PM	#67
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? just to give the young one a decent chance... green brakleen? or red brakleen? __________________ RN U OVR



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01-14-2009, 06:42 PM	#69
red69ss Burnouts are therapeutic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lancaster, south carolina Posts: 852	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? I reach back there and clean it with a small wire brush and a rag then use a flashlight and a mirror to see it ,tough no matter how you do it __________________ 1969 CHEVELLE SS 1972 C10 ALMOST DAILY DRIVER 1968 C10 RUSTBUCKET (MISSION IMPOSSIBLE) 1972 PONTIAC LEMANS CONVERTIBLE (WIFE'S CAR) "My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met." - Rodney Dangerfield "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Einstein

01-14-2009, 07:15 PM	#70
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? BOB, that helped emensly (sp?) i saw that in CAD this AM...inspired me so much ima put the truck in the shop and look for the numbers here in a lil while when im done surfin 67-72 lol thats what i needed in the first place!!! hopefully its not too dern dirty backt there! __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

01-14-2009, 08:57 PM	#71
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? Annddddddd................... I found the numbers thanks to bob they are........ 14316379 i looked it up and found it as a 69-85 350 but it was recently rebuilt, so my guess it'd be a lil bigger, am i correct? Thanks for the help hoped yall enjoyed the guessing game! __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

01-14-2009, 09:20 PM	#72
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? Glad you found them . Glad I could help ya out . Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

01-14-2009, 11:07 PM	#73
Brock396 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Murphysboro,il Posts: 38	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? Im new to this site but let me say 14316379 don't seem to be a good #. old blue thought sufix was oa, thats not good eather. could be qa (1966 283ci) or maybe da (1965 283ci)(1968 307ci)???

01-14-2009, 11:22 PM	#74
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? i no its a new model engine, not orignal to the truck those were the numbers on the block i looked em up seemed to be a 350 __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

01-14-2009, 11:28 PM	#75
Brock396 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Murphysboro,il Posts: 38	Re: who can recognize this motor for me? my bad. Mortec web site don,t list 14316379 for some reason (the site i always use) but i found it on a diffrent site anyway HAPPY TO BE HERE Brock

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