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64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:42 PM

OK, if you saw my other thread, I bought the Pypes Violator Exhaust system from Summit. It is supposed to be for C10 pickups 64-72 I believe, and will fit longbeds as well as shortbed trucks.....

Kind of a long thread, plus there are 2 video's of before and after.....

First, I ordered the system on Tuesday from Summit.
I get home Wednesday, and her is what I find waiting for me....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:43 PM

So I open the box and take inventory just like they say to.....

everythings there....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:45 PM

They recommend laying out the exhaust on the floor and putting it all together to make sure it fits and that there are no problems.....

All the pipes are slip fit, and slide together fairly easily.....They are labeled, but the labels do not match the installation sheet.....

My new x-pipe

The shiny new SS Violators.......NICE!!!

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:47 PM

They recommend you jack the truck up and start from the back.....telling you to center the x-pipe, and then run out from there.........ehh, I ended up starting from the front, running the pipes from the headers to the x-pipe, and then working on installing the mufflers.....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:50 PM

After getting the muffler and the x-pipe installed on the drivers side, I look around and realize I lost some clamps.....Then I read the instruction sheet. They only give you 8 clamps for the whole system..........I was thinking you need maybe 12....it would have been nice.....

Plus the sheet was very vague about which joints you actually clamped, and which you left just fit together......

Muffler with the hanging strap attached....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:51 PM

Then I got to the part about installing the pipe over the rear axle......You have to trim this to length......No problem I got that done......then you attach the tailpipe they provide.......

Nope, I do not like how this looks.....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 10:54 PM

So I finally got the entire exhaust minus the tailpipes installed.......and cranked it up.....

Sounded pretty good.....

I will be having some pipes either re-bent or new ones made for my truck....

All in all, it sit under the truck, and looks pretty good for the most part. I will be MIG welding the joints this weekend, so I really did not need the clamps, but I still think they should include more, especially with all the joints you have and with what you pay for the kit.....

here is how it looks from the side.....

another....

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 11:00 PM

The old mufflers Youtube video....

YouTube- old exhaust.MOV

The new mufflers.....

YouTube- New exhaust.MOV

64GMCHorsepower · 03-04-2010, 11:05 PM

All by myself!! In about 2-3 hours.....I started at 4:00 went and got dinner, then finished around 7:30 or so...........

Having a helper would have been great, but my son, Dad, and the few friend that would answer my phone call were busy.........yeah right........

likaroc13 · 03-05-2010, 12:31 AM

nice work & write-up...sounds pretty good...what made you decide to go with the Pypes system?

oh, where in N. Bama are you?

198plus · 03-05-2010, 01:29 AM

Sounds good

19GMC63 · 03-05-2010, 01:50 AM

nice! Sounds pretty good.
If you get a chance, I'd like to hear a vid of it outside as well.

**Captainfab** · 03-05-2010, 02:28 AM

That sounds pretty good. I agree that it might be better sound quality outside. If you were to turn the mufflers verticle as per the instructions, the tail pipes would be a little higher. But I do like the mufflers horizontal better also. Could you raise the mufflers a bit, or would the pipes hit the crossmember? That would raise the tail pipes some also.

Thanks for taking the time to do this review. This is something we can all benefit from.

markeb01 · 03-05-2010, 09:49 AM

Great thread. Thanks for taking the time to record the upgrade and posting for everyones benefit.

**DPowers** · 03-05-2010, 10:23 AM

Yes, thanks and nice work.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 03-05-2010, 11:29 AM

maybe you shouild call Pypes and tell them of your experience so they can make some changes. If we don't tell them they will not know and they do like our input. http://www.pypesexhaust.com/

protrash64 · 03-05-2010, 01:33 PM

Nice job on the review. I can't tell a lot of difference between the 2 systems; alot of frequencies bouncing around the garage. Seems the whole system is very low (as far as ground clearance), too.

You didnt mention if you had headers or manifolds. Just curious.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 03-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64

Nice job on the review. I can't tell a lot of difference between the 2 systems; alot of frequencies bouncing around the garage. Seems the whole system is very low (as far as ground clearance), too.

You didnt mention if you had headers or manifolds. Just curious.

If you look at the 2nd post of picture, you can see it hooked up to the collector. I say Headers...

64GMCHorsepower · 03-05-2010, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likaroc13

nice work & write-up...sounds pretty good...what made you decide to go with the Pypes system?

oh, where in N. Bama are you?

I just wanted a kit so I could install it myself. Plus, everyone runs Flowmasters it seems, and i thought I would break off the beaten path.....

I am located in Huntsville......

64GMCHorsepower · 03-05-2010, 08:23 PM

I can't raise it up any more, it is almost hitting the driveshaft crossmember.....

I have full length headers, so they come to the bottom of the frame rail......I had thought about getting shortys, but since I am not going any lower, they will be fine..

I will try to get a video of it outside, but it will be tomorrow....I've been busy working on plumbing under the house......

Thanks,

Chad

**Chevy Fleetside** · 03-06-2010, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 64GMCHorsepower

....I've been busy working on plumbing under the house......

Thanks,

Chad

Oh thats always fun...

64GMCHorsepower · 03-06-2010, 07:37 PM

OK here is an outside vid of the truck running with the new mufflers....

I will be raising them up probably about 2 inches at least to get the maximum clearance I can....

Please ignore the wiring mess under the dash.....I'm still cleaning up the wiring and working on the light switch......And where I placed the camera....I propped it up on my sons mustang......

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/tradef...

64GMCHorsepower · 03-06-2010, 07:37 PM

I also raised my timing a little bit after that vid....while the cam-like rumble sounds good, it really did not run that great.....So it sounds a little smoother now....

It really doesn't sound that loud in person, my computer speakers must be horrible.....

03-04-2010, 10:42 PM	#1
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review OK, if you saw my other thread, I bought the Pypes Violator Exhaust system from Summit. It is supposed to be for C10 pickups 64-72 I believe, and will fit longbeds as well as shortbed trucks..... Kind of a long thread, plus there are 2 video's of before and after..... First, I ordered the system on Tuesday from Summit. I get home Wednesday, and her is what I find waiting for me.... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:43 PM	#2
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review So I open the box and take inventory just like they say to..... everythings there.... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:45 PM	#3
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review They recommend laying out the exhaust on the floor and putting it all together to make sure it fits and that there are no problems..... All the pipes are slip fit, and slide together fairly easily.....They are labeled, but the labels do not match the installation sheet..... My new x-pipe The shiny new SS Violators.......NICE!!! __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:47 PM	#4
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review They recommend you jack the truck up and start from the back.....telling you to center the x-pipe, and then run out from there.........ehh, I ended up starting from the front, running the pipes from the headers to the x-pipe, and then working on installing the mufflers..... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:50 PM	#5
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review After getting the muffler and the x-pipe installed on the drivers side, I look around and realize I lost some clamps.....Then I read the instruction sheet. They only give you 8 clamps for the whole system..........I was thinking you need maybe 12....it would have been nice..... Plus the sheet was very vague about which joints you actually clamped, and which you left just fit together...... Muffler with the hanging strap attached.... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:51 PM	#6
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review Then I got to the part about installing the pipe over the rear axle......You have to trim this to length......No problem I got that done......then you attach the tailpipe they provide....... Nope, I do not like how this looks..... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 10:54 PM	#7
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review So I finally got the entire exhaust minus the tailpipes installed.......and cranked it up..... Sounded pretty good..... I will be having some pipes either re-bent or new ones made for my truck.... All in all, it sit under the truck, and looks pretty good for the most part. I will be MIG welding the joints this weekend, so I really did not need the clamps, but I still think they should include more, especially with all the joints you have and with what you pay for the kit..... here is how it looks from the side..... another.... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-04-2010, 11:05 PM	#9
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review All by myself!! In about 2-3 hours.....I started at 4:00 went and got dinner, then finished around 7:30 or so........... Having a helper would have been great, but my son, Dad, and the few friend that would answer my phone call were busy.........yeah right........ __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-05-2010, 12:31 AM	#10
likaroc13 Rollin' Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 5,371	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review nice work & write-up...sounds pretty good...what made you decide to go with the Pypes system? oh, where in N. Bama are you?

03-05-2010, 01:29 AM	#11
198plus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Loganville, Ga. Posts: 1,408	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review Sounds good __________________ My Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346597 https://www.facebook.com/pages/198-C...1434001?ref=hl

03-05-2010, 01:50 AM	#12
19GMC63 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,510	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review nice! Sounds pretty good. If you get a chance, I'd like to hear a vid of it outside as well.

03-05-2010, 02:28 AM	#13
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review That sounds pretty good. I agree that it might be better sound quality outside. If you were to turn the mufflers verticle as per the instructions, the tail pipes would be a little higher. But I do like the mufflers horizontal better also. Could you raise the mufflers a bit, or would the pipes hit the crossmember? That would raise the tail pipes some also. Thanks for taking the time to do this review. This is something we can all benefit from. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE Last edited by Captainfab; 03-05-2010 at 02:30 AM.

03-05-2010, 09:49 AM	#14
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review Great thread. Thanks for taking the time to record the upgrade and posting for everyones benefit.

03-05-2010, 10:23 AM	#15
DPowers One foot in front of the other Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Parrottsville, TN Posts: 5,443	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review Yes, thanks and nice work. __________________ DP's 66 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=361556

03-05-2010, 11:29 AM	#16
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,782	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review maybe you shouild call Pypes and tell them of your experience so they can make some changes. If we don't tell them they will not know and they do like our input. http://www.pypesexhaust.com/ __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536 Last edited by Chevy Fleetside; 03-05-2010 at 11:31 AM.



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03-05-2010, 01:33 PM	#17
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review Nice job on the review. I can't tell a lot of difference between the 2 systems; alot of frequencies bouncing around the garage. Seems the whole system is very low (as far as ground clearance), too. You didnt mention if you had headers or manifolds. Just curious. __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

03-05-2010, 08:23 PM	#20
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review I can't raise it up any more, it is almost hitting the driveshaft crossmember..... I have full length headers, so they come to the bottom of the frame rail......I had thought about getting shortys, but since I am not going any lower, they will be fine.. I will try to get a video of it outside, but it will be tomorrow....I've been busy working on plumbing under the house...... Thanks, Chad __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

03-06-2010, 07:37 PM	#23
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: Pypes Exhaust Installation/Review I also raised my timing a little bit after that vid....while the cam-like rumble sounds good, it really did not run that great.....So it sounds a little smoother now.... It really doesn't sound that loud in person, my computer speakers must be horrible..... __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny Last edited by 64GMCHorsepower; 03-06-2010 at 07:39 PM.

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