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SRVBLUES64 · 10-05-2010, 09:30 PM

I was wondering if it was legal to sell tag from a old rusted out cab? I had a old rusty 66 chevy c10 cab that I junked but I kept the metal plate on the kick panel and the # tag is it okay to sell on ebay? I know theres guys out there in need of such a thing Thanks for any help Jeff

jonzcustomshop · 10-05-2010, 09:47 PM

if you are selling the pair, with a title , it is probably illegal...
might even be a federal crime to knowingly tamper with vehicle v*n plates.

we'll see what others say.

the data plate on the kick panel is no big deal, it is only a data tag

**Captainfab** · 10-06-2010, 12:32 AM

As far as I know selling a VIN tag and a title would get you in some trouble since it is not legal.. Now if it was still attached to the cab, and you sold it as a cab with a title, that would be a different story.

63 & 64 Bowties · 10-06-2010, 05:58 AM

The vin tag would have no value without the title to the same truck. Like others have said, I'm 99% sure it's illegal to sell both. But, there are tons of titles for sale on the hamb. They advertise them as Historical Documents.

1Bad62Pro/Street · 10-06-2010, 06:09 AM

It's illegal in the State of North Carolina.

63sbssbbw · 10-06-2010, 06:29 AM

Pretty sure it's a no-no almost everywhere.
But then again,where's the line?
If you cut out the A piller you haven't tampered with the tag?
it maybe why some tags are located on the roof portion of the jamb,in canada they're on the hinge piller,again, making it visible yet difficult to tamper with.
T

61_FL_Apache · 10-06-2010, 06:54 AM

I would check with your state to make sure.

j.kirn · 10-06-2010, 07:00 AM

its illegal to drive over the speed limit to but people do it right

*lakeroadster* · 10-06-2010, 08:36 AM

Laws vary from state to state but I agree with the previous comment that removing the Vin tag fromt he vehicle is a federal offense.

5 years ago when I bought my '69 Camaro I researched this. There are people that are buying '69 Camaro cowls just for the cowl tag / vin tag - along with the title. They then build a "new" Camaro using a dynacorn body. Then the car is titled as an original '69 Camaro.

I am not sure if it is still legal, there was quite an uproar from those of us that had originals. If enough cars are built it really effects the value of the originals.

Looks like it is still a subject of controversy http://camaroforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29633

63sbssbbw · 10-06-2010, 08:44 AM

There's that gray area again LOL
T

raycow · 10-06-2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.kirn

its illegal to drive over the speed limit to but people do it right

Sure, but some of them get caught, and then they get a ticket. If you get a ticket for diddling with the VIN tag, you could lose the truck as well as face other penalties.

Ray

jonzcustomshop · 10-06-2010, 06:02 PM

remember federal prison is no parole, I wouldn't want to even do a week with those guys, much less 3-5 or whatever the punishment is.

j.kirn · 10-06-2010, 06:58 PM

vin tag has to match frame vin

SRVBLUES64 · 10-07-2010, 08:00 AM

Thanks for all the replies, Prison is something I don't want to expierence, over a tag. hers the deal I sold my original cab cause it was really rusty. Someguy wanted just the roof so he bought it for 100 bucks I removed the tags. It has registration papers. I bought another cab with no papers but it had tags. Im using my original papers and tags.

jonzcustomshop · 10-07-2010, 08:30 AM

I would just toss the vintag, the only reason someone would want it would be to re register a truck they have that does not have tags, then if anything goes wrong, it might be traced back to you.

bama63 · 10-08-2010, 01:36 PM

no titles on 74 or older vehicles in alabama, only bill of sale and the vehicle is only checked to insure the bill of sale matches the vin number and a one time fee of $16.00 gets you a tag that is good for the life of the vehicle

**jocko** · 10-08-2010, 08:08 PM

I'm with jonz - I'd toss the thing in the trash. Having (almost) been on the receiving end of some rat bastage that was trying to sell me a truck with a bad title/vin combo (turns out the dude on the title had been dead for years, even though he WAS actually a previous owner... just not the current one!) I'd steer clear. I know how you feel - it's a shame it can't be used, but the truck that vin was born with is long gone - so any use of it would probably be for less than forthright purposes by whomever bought it from you. I'm just sayin. Good of you to ask, by the way.

10-05-2010, 09:30 PM	#1
SRVBLUES64 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Noblesville, Indiana Posts: 430	tag questions I was wondering if it was legal to sell tag from a old rusted out cab? I had a old rusty 66 chevy c10 cab that I junked but I kept the metal plate on the kick panel and the # tag is it okay to sell on ebay? I know theres guys out there in need of such a thing Thanks for any help Jeff

10-05-2010, 09:47 PM	#2
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: tag questions if you are selling the pair, with a title , it is probably illegal... might even be a federal crime to knowingly tamper with vehicle v*n plates. we'll see what others say. the data plate on the kick panel is no big deal, it is only a data tag __________________ 60 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=280904 61 crew build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646830 63 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=336537 64 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=448681 65 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590715 65 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=281955

10-06-2010, 12:32 AM	#3
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: tag questions As far as I know selling a VIN tag and a title would get you in some trouble since it is not legal.. Now if it was still attached to the cab, and you sold it as a cab with a title, that would be a different story. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

10-06-2010, 05:58 AM	#4
63 & 64 Bowties and a few others Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 5,638	Re: tag questions The vin tag would have no value without the title to the same truck. Like others have said, I'm 99% sure it's illegal to sell both. But, there are tons of titles for sale on the hamb. They advertise them as Historical Documents. __________________ Bill US Army Vet -193rd Infantry BlueRidgeMuscleCars.com “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated” Gandhi

10-06-2010, 06:09 AM	#5
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10-06-2010, 06:29 AM	#6
63sbssbbw UCA63 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lloydminster AB Can. Posts: 1,637	Re: tag questions Pretty sure it's a no-no almost everywhere. But then again,where's the line? If you cut out the A piller you haven't tampered with the tag? it maybe why some tags are located on the roof portion of the jamb,in canada they're on the hinge piller,again, making it visible yet difficult to tamper with. T __________________ member#7816 "63 sb ss bbw 350\350 12 bolt rear Pwr Fr Disc PS tilt '61 GMC in progress '63 GMC to use for parts '90 Chevy Ext cab sbfs 5.7l (current d d)

10-06-2010, 06:54 AM	#7
61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: tag questions I would check with your state to make sure. __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold) Last edited by 61_FL_Apache; 10-06-2010 at 06:55 AM.

10-06-2010, 07:00 AM	#8
j.kirn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MO. Posts: 970	Re: tag questions its illegal to drive over the speed limit to but people do it right

10-06-2010, 08:36 AM	#9
lakeroadster Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: High Plains of Colorado Posts: 2,485	Re: tag questions Laws vary from state to state but I agree with the previous comment that removing the Vin tag fromt he vehicle is a federal offense. 5 years ago when I bought my '69 Camaro I researched this. There are people that are buying '69 Camaro cowls just for the cowl tag / vin tag - along with the title. They then build a "new" Camaro using a dynacorn body. Then the car is titled as an original '69 Camaro. I am not sure if it is still legal, there was quite an uproar from those of us that had originals. If enough cars are built it really effects the value of the originals. Looks like it is still a subject of controversy http://camaroforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29633

10-06-2010, 08:44 AM	#10
63sbssbbw UCA63 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lloydminster AB Can. Posts: 1,637	Re: tag questions There's that gray area again LOL T __________________ member#7816 "63 sb ss bbw 350\350 12 bolt rear Pwr Fr Disc PS tilt '61 GMC in progress '63 GMC to use for parts '90 Chevy Ext cab sbfs 5.7l (current d d)

10-06-2010, 06:02 PM	#12
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: tag questions remember federal prison is no parole, I wouldn't want to even do a week with those guys, much less 3-5 or whatever the punishment is. __________________ 60 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=280904 61 crew build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646830 63 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=336537 64 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=448681 65 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590715 65 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=281955

10-06-2010, 06:58 PM	#13
j.kirn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MO. Posts: 970	Re: tag questions vin tag has to match frame vin

10-07-2010, 08:00 AM	#14
SRVBLUES64 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Noblesville, Indiana Posts: 430	Re: tag questions Thanks for all the replies, Prison is something I don't want to expierence, over a tag. hers the deal I sold my original cab cause it was really rusty. Someguy wanted just the roof so he bought it for 100 bucks I removed the tags. It has registration papers. I bought another cab with no papers but it had tags. Im using my original papers and tags.

10-07-2010, 08:30 AM	#15
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: tag questions I would just toss the vintag, the only reason someone would want it would be to re register a truck they have that does not have tags, then if anything goes wrong, it might be traced back to you. __________________ 60 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=280904 61 crew build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646830 63 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=336537 64 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=448681 65 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590715 65 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=281955

10-08-2010, 01:36 PM	#16
bama63 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: gadsden, alabama Posts: 468	Re: tag questions no titles on 74 or older vehicles in alabama, only bill of sale and the vehicle is only checked to insure the bill of sale matches the vin number and a one time fee of $16.00 gets you a tag that is good for the life of the vehicle __________________ Due to financial constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel will be shut off until further notice



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10-08-2010, 08:08 PM	#17
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: tag questions I'm with jonz - I'd toss the thing in the trash. Having (almost) been on the receiving end of some rat bastage that was trying to sell me a truck with a bad title/vin combo (turns out the dude on the title had been dead for years, even though he WAS actually a previous owner... just not the current one!) I'd steer clear. I know how you feel - it's a shame it can't be used, but the truck that vin was born with is long gone - so any use of it would probably be for less than forthright purposes by whomever bought it from you. I'm just sayin. Good of you to ask, by the way. Last edited by jocko; 10-08-2010 at 08:08 PM.

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