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Cole Trickle · 10-13-2010, 04:45 PM

vin#4c144161xxxx

Its a 64 short step with a big rear window

He is pretty sure he has a 327 motor but would like some specs and to know for sure.( passenger side front of block)

Engine ID# F0526 SD

Any info???

Thanks

**jocko** · 10-13-2010, 05:27 PM

vin#4c144161xxxx = 4=1964 / C=2 wheel drive / 14= half ton 115" wheelbase / 4=pickup (after the last "4" there should be a letter which will ID the assembly plant location in the U.S. - a "1" (your case) indicates Oshawa, Canada assembly plant - then 61XXXX etc would be the sequential assembly number.

(so, good news, you know you have an original 1/2 ton shortbed - you now know it hasn't been a cab swap victim - not that there's anything wrong with that, just nice to know on one's own truck if it's ever happened) - you can also cross match the truck VIN tag with the VIN stamped into the front left frame rail - can usually make it out by leaning over the left front fender and looking down at the top of the frame rail near the steering box area, etc. You also know it was originally a Canadian plant built truck.

Truck 327 not available in 64 - first year in trucks was 66.
But you do have a 327 - and appears you have a very SWEET one...
Engine ID# F0526 SD = F=Flint (motor plant) / built on May 26 / SD=1962 vette 327 (originally equipped with a powerglide, special hi perf engine - 350hp, 4 bbl carb).

Hope that helps. Wish I could buy a truck and then find out that's what was in it! Nice truck - 64 short step with a big window and a 62 vette 327... I'd hang onto that puppy...

61_FL_Apache · 10-13-2010, 05:29 PM

Good score on the 327!!

raycow · 10-13-2010, 05:36 PM

You will need the casting date to positively identify the engine. SD in 1962 was 300 hp. The first year for 350 hp was 65. I am guessing the SD code was used for more than one year.

Ray

Cole Trickle · 10-13-2010, 05:48 PM

Thanks for the info.....

Where might we find out the hear that SD code matches up?

Its a nice solid truck that we found on the local CL

He has since cleaned it up a bunch and added CPP 3.5/4" drop and power disc up front

**jocko** · 10-13-2010, 05:50 PM

raycow - excellent point, I agree (350 hp not available yet).

here's the ref I used for this:
http://www.nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-cod...s-suffix-6.php

and I have used in the past. Now I'm wondering just how valid it is...

thanks for pointing out raycow.

Cole - you may want to cross-check that engine code with a different source. the link above states 350 hp 327 (in 1962) but I believe raycow is absolutely correct - that was not available yet. 62 327's were available with 250hp, 300hp, and 340 hp in the carb'ed version and 360hp for the fuelie (referenced elsewhere, not the above link and the above link matches these numbers at least)- but no 350 hp 4 bbl version. so maybe it's just the wrong hp number in the link's chart above - or maybe it's got a different meaning altogether. sorry maybe slightly bum gouge on the eng id.

**Clyde65** · 10-13-2010, 05:54 PM

Wow, nice truck!

Does anyone know if the BBW and stepside bed is common or rare?

Cole Trickle · 10-14-2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raycow

You will need the casting date to positively identify the engine. SD in 1962 was 300 hp. The first year for 350 hp was 65. I am guessing the SD code was used for more than one year.

Ray

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko

raycow - excellent point, I agree (350 hp not available yet).

here's the ref I used for this:
http://www.nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-cod...s-suffix-6.php

and I have used in the past. Now I'm wondering just how valid it is...

thanks for pointing out raycow.

Cole - you may want to cross-check that engine code with a different source. the link above states 350 hp 327 (in 1962) but I believe raycow is absolutely correct - that was not available yet. 62 327's were available with 250hp, 300hp, and 340 hp in the carb'ed version and 360hp for the fuelie (referenced elsewhere, not the above link and the above link matches these numbers at least)- but no 350 hp 4 bbl version. so maybe it's just the wrong hp number in the link's chart above - or maybe it's got a different meaning altogether. sorry maybe slightly bum gouge on the eng id.

He was able to get the ID # off the back of the block (drivers side rear of block)

#3782870

Anyother info would be great......he is debating if he should keep this or the built 383 he has laying around.

**jocko** · 10-14-2010, 04:41 PM

3782870 = 62 -67 327 cu in - block used for 250-375 hp, 2-Bolt mains/Truck/Pass

So, combining this with the 'SD' - would appear to be a 1962 300hp 327 block. I think that's a safe bet.

A less safe bet is what it came out of. I've got one ref that says SD was a vette motor - but that was also the ref that said it was (incorrectly) a 350hp motor - so take the vette part with a grain of salt also. I believe 300hp 327s were also available in 'full size' cars in 62 (i.e. impala, bel air, biscayne).

hope that helps.

63sbssbbw · 10-15-2010, 05:49 AM

Sweet looking truck CT
I guess the next logical Q on the motor would be,Does it the have the 327 heads on it?
T

Cole Trickle · 10-15-2010, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 63sbssbbw

Sweet looking truck CT
I guess the next logical Q on the motor would be,Does it the have the 327 heads on it?
T

Looks like he has truck heads offf a 1968....

Good news is they seem to be pretty good heads but by no means is this a numbers matching 327.

3947040....68......327.........."Right angle" casting identifier, 64cc chambers, good HP head, used in trucks, no accessory holes

10-13-2010, 04:45 PM	#1
Cole Trickle C-10 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Corona,CA Posts: 1,001	Help my uncle id his truck and motor vin#4c144161xxxx Its a 64 short step with a big rear window He is pretty sure he has a 327 motor but would like some specs and to know for sure.( passenger side front of block) Engine ID# F0526 SD Any info??? Thanks __________________ 1969 Short Fleet 350/SM465 4.5/6.5 ECE drop 20" Raceline Wheels 1998 2dr Tahoe 5/7 drop 20"/22" Coys-sold Build thread...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=401910

10-13-2010, 05:27 PM	#2
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor vin#4c144161xxxx = 4=1964 / C=2 wheel drive / 14= half ton 115" wheelbase / 4=pickup (after the last "4" there should be a letter which will ID the assembly plant location in the U.S. - a "1" (your case) indicates Oshawa, Canada assembly plant - then 61XXXX etc would be the sequential assembly number. (so, good news, you know you have an original 1/2 ton shortbed - you now know it hasn't been a cab swap victim - not that there's anything wrong with that, just nice to know on one's own truck if it's ever happened) - you can also cross match the truck VIN tag with the VIN stamped into the front left frame rail - can usually make it out by leaning over the left front fender and looking down at the top of the frame rail near the steering box area, etc. You also know it was originally a Canadian plant built truck. Truck 327 not available in 64 - first year in trucks was 66. But you do have a 327 - and appears you have a very SWEET one... Engine ID# F0526 SD = F=Flint (motor plant) / built on May 26 / SD=1962 vette 327 (originally equipped with a powerglide, special hi perf engine - 350hp, 4 bbl carb). Hope that helps. Wish I could buy a truck and then find out that's what was in it! Nice truck - 64 short step with a big window and a 62 vette 327... I'd hang onto that puppy... Last edited by jocko; 10-13-2010 at 05:29 PM.

10-13-2010, 05:48 PM	#5
Cole Trickle C-10 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Corona,CA Posts: 1,001	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor Thanks for the info..... Where might we find out the hear that SD code matches up? Its a nice solid truck that we found on the local CL He has since cleaned it up a bunch and added CPP 3.5/4" drop and power disc up front __________________ 1969 Short Fleet 350/SM465 4.5/6.5 ECE drop 20" Raceline Wheels 1998 2dr Tahoe 5/7 drop 20"/22" Coys-sold Build thread...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=401910

10-13-2010, 05:50 PM	#6
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor raycow - excellent point, I agree (350 hp not available yet). here's the ref I used for this: http://www.nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-cod...s-suffix-6.php and I have used in the past. Now I'm wondering just how valid it is... thanks for pointing out raycow. Cole - you may want to cross-check that engine code with a different source. the link above states 350 hp 327 (in 1962) but I believe raycow is absolutely correct - that was not available yet. 62 327's were available with 250hp, 300hp, and 340 hp in the carb'ed version and 360hp for the fuelie (referenced elsewhere, not the above link and the above link matches these numbers at least)- but no 350 hp 4 bbl version. so maybe it's just the wrong hp number in the link's chart above - or maybe it's got a different meaning altogether. sorry maybe slightly bum gouge on the eng id. Last edited by jocko; 10-13-2010 at 05:55 PM.

10-13-2010, 05:54 PM	#7
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,546	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor Wow, nice truck! Does anyone know if the BBW and stepside bed is common or rare? __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

10-13-2010, 05:29 PM	#3
61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor Good score on the 327!! __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold)

10-13-2010, 05:36 PM	#4
raycow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 2,454	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor You will need the casting date to positively identify the engine. SD in 1962 was 300 hp. The first year for 350 hp was 65. I am guessing the SD code was used for more than one year. Ray Last edited by raycow; 10-13-2010 at 05:43 PM.

10-14-2010, 04:41 PM	#9
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor 3782870 = 62 -67 327 cu in - block used for 250-375 hp, 2-Bolt mains/Truck/Pass So, combining this with the 'SD' - would appear to be a 1962 300hp 327 block. I think that's a safe bet. A less safe bet is what it came out of. I've got one ref that says SD was a vette motor - but that was also the ref that said it was (incorrectly) a 350hp motor - so take the vette part with a grain of salt also. I believe 300hp 327s were also available in 'full size' cars in 62 (i.e. impala, bel air, biscayne). hope that helps. Last edited by jocko; 10-14-2010 at 04:42 PM.

10-15-2010, 05:49 AM	#10
63sbssbbw UCA63 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lloydminster AB Can. Posts: 1,637	Re: Help my uncle id his truck and motor Sweet looking truck CT I guess the next logical Q on the motor would be,Does it the have the 327 heads on it? T __________________ member#7816 "63 sb ss bbw 350\350 12 bolt rear Pwr Fr Disc PS tilt '61 GMC in progress '63 GMC to use for parts '90 Chevy Ext cab sbfs 5.7l (current d d)



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