how low ?

[jitteryguy]

I just got bout every thing to bag my Dually, I'm wonder'n how low it will sit with a basic "C" notch and 265/35/22 tire's ? I'd like to get 4" to 6" off the ground air'd out. If I have to I'll do big notch but would rather not have to do any mod's to bed floor .

Thanks
Chris

[TylerHuff]

i know some one with a bolt in c notch on a dually like yours and had to cut the bed out where the differential comes up so if you have to cut the bed floor anyway you might as well do a big notch. i want to say his frame was around 6 inches or more from the ground

[TylerHuff]

oh by the way my truck lays frame on a 32 inch tall tire and my notch only sticks into the bed like 3 to 4 inches not sure without measuring but about that

[cochino12]

What do you plan on doing with the rear bag setup? I'm debating bagging my dually too and really dont want to mess with cutting the bed either. I might go with an air over leaf setup , cheap and simple.

[jitteryguy]

Originally Posted by cochino12

What do you plan on doing with the rear bag setup? I'm debating bagging my dually too and really dont want to mess with cutting the bed either. I might go with an air over leaf setup , cheap and simple.

I got the bolt on 4 link set up from AirBagit.com with a weld on panhard rod, based on what Tylerhuff say's I guess I will raise the bed floor complettely about 6" and do a big notch. I wanna keep the gooseneck hitch and keep the bed intack'd .
I will be home in Jan. for a few weeks and want'd to bag it then, but if I gotta mod the bed I wont have time, the bag's will have to wait I reckon.
my goal is to be bout 4 to 6"s off the ground when air'd out , that way if I ever blow a line or a bag I can still drive home .

[jitteryguy]

Originally Posted by TylerHuff

oh by the way my truck lays frame on a 32 inch tall tire and my notch only sticks into the bed like 3 to 4 inches not sure without measuring but about that

Tyler, your truck sits exactly like I want for mine, do you have any picture's of the bag set up on the forum.
I have several pictures of lower'd Dually' saved for insperatrion, yours is one of em !
thanks for the info
Chris

[TylerHuff]

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/showthr...ly+bag+projectt

heres a link to my build if i would have known better at the time. the bed floor is bolted in. just unbolt the whole floor and move it up then tack weld it back in. then get longer bed bolts and spacers then bam your done.

[jitteryguy]

Tyler, how big is your notch ? did it come from suicidedoor's ? the internet connection I have here wont let see the pictures in your biuld thread but I saved the link and will check it out when I get home in Jan.
I'm think'n I'll redrill and move the bed floor up bout 4" . do you still have the stock fuel tank's ?

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by TylerHuff

heres a link to my build.....

What did you spend on that SD rear set-up & what size tires did you wind up w/for the front rear (I read in the thread where you got new fronts)? Drop spindles? Nice job BTW....

[TylerHuff]

Originally Posted by jitteryguy

Tyler, how big is your notch ? did it come from suicidedoor's ? the internet connection I have here wont let see the pictures in your biuld thread but I saved the link and will check it out when I get home in Jan.
I'm think'n I'll redrill and move the bed floor up bout 4" . do you still have the stock fuel tank's ?

im not sure the size of the notch but the inside is 1 1/2 inches above the top of the existing frame. and i made the notch myself out of 3x4 1/4" thick steel

[TylerHuff]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

What did you spend on that SD rear set-up & what size tires did you wind up w/for the front rear (I read in the thread where you got new fronts)? Drop spindles? Nice job BTW....

the rear 4-link cost me $329 i think and the panhard bar was about 120. I have western chassis 3 inch drop spindles and i belive my new front tires are 29 inches tall. my other ones i had to beat the fire wall with a hammer and still they sat on the firewall when it was aired out

[cochino12]

Originally Posted by TylerHuff

the rear 4-link cost me $329 i think and the panhard bar was about 120. I have western chassis 3 inch drop spindles and i belive my new front tires are 29 inches tall. my other ones i had to beat the fire wall with a hammer and still they sat on the firewall when it was aired out

I thought it would be a lot more than that, i'm guessing that is a weld on kit though right!! thanks for the info tyler, I may end up bagging this dually of mine after all.

[jitteryguy]

cochino12 does your truck have C notch in it now ? I just wanna be a little lower than your's when I'm air'd out . I went ahead and order'd an 8" notch from SD, but I'll probably cut it down so I dont have to raise the bed floor to much . I figure install the front bag's and level the rear to match the front.

[cochino12]

Originally Posted by jitteryguy

cochino12 does your truck have C notch in it now ? I just wanna be a little lower than your's when I'm air'd out . I went ahead and order'd an 8" notch from SD, but I'll probably cut it down so I dont have to raise the bed floor to much . I figure install the front bag's and level the rear to match the front.

I was actually going to install the notch yesterday but a slight jack mishap left me with a broken finger so I havent gotten around to finishing it yet Looking at the notch it looks like the pumpkin will hit the bed floor just before the axle hits which is about 3 more inches.

[SCOTI]

I'm getting up to speed here so bear w/me. What bolt-in notches are you guys using? I'm assuming you guys plan to use flip kits vs. the more aggressively marketed shackle/hangers. Whose flip kit (the only one I've found was Western Chassis kits via Sport Truck Direct but WC's web site doesn't list flip-kit's)??

And this would be extremely helpful..... how about some pics of each (flip-kit & notches)? I know they're the same concept as the 1/2 tons in how they function. What I really want to see is how much more 'beef' th HD parts have vs. their lighter weight counterparts.

[cochino12]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I'm getting up to speed here so bear w/me. What bolt-in notches are you guys using? I'm assuming you guys plan to use flip kits vs. the more aggressively marketed shackle/hangers. Whose flip kit (the only one I've found was Western Chassis kits via Sport Truck Direct but WC's web site doesn't list flip-kit's)??

And this would be extremely helpful..... how about some pics of each (flip-kit & notches)? I know they're the same concept as the 1/2 tons in how they function. What I really want to see is how much more 'beef' th HD parts have vs. their lighter weight counterparts.

I've got a western chassis kit w/flip and spindles, DO NOT order from sport truck direct!! I called western chassis and they directed me to Hunters custom in Tenn. , talk to Lynn.

I'll try and grab some pictures of my flip and notch tomorrow. I'm excited to see what you do with that truck.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by cochino12

I've got a western chassis kit w/flip and spindles, DO NOT order from sport truck direct!! I called western chassis and they directed me to Hunters custom in Tenn. , talk to Lynn.

I'll try and grab some pictures of my flip and notch tomorrow. I'm excited to see what you do with that truck.

I've used STD in the past w/o issue but after reading some of the grief members have gone through I'm definitely avoiding them. I jotted down the contact info a few days ago for Hunters (Lynn) as posted in one of these threads (provided by you so thanks ). Their web-site didn't list any of these items & I would like to see what I'm spending it on.

My main concern is the c-notches appear to be flat w/angles legs vs. a round notch. Based on info from Lakeroadster, the flat/angled notch is weak in the corners vs. the round notch. On a dually that is used for more than posing.... this is a concern. I'm guessing the dually notch is shaped differently because of the OD of the axle tube.

Pics would be great. Material thickness as well if possible Thumbmaster .

[cochino12]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

My main concern is the c-notches appear to be flat w/angles legs vs. a round notch. Based on info from Lakeroadster, the flat/angled notch is weak in the corners vs. the round notch. On a dually that is used for more than posing.... this is a concern. I'm guessing the dually notch is shaped differently because of the OD of the axle tube.

Pics would be great. Material thickness as well if possible Thumbmaster .

Here are a few pics of the notch and a quick shot of the flip kit. I was trying to get the rear sway bar to work so thats what the bracket is on bottom of the leaf pack it's coming out as soon as I can get permission to work on the truck again. Oh and it wasnt my thumb it was my middle finger, I took a picture of it too before the knuckle got reset if you want to see that too haha. Let me know if you need any more pics

[RunninLo]

YouTube - 2010 10 18 21 19 37 343

Here's were mines at. Hope to be fitting the bed and draggin tomorrow. front is just set for the 16's for now but the rear will accomodate up to a 30" tire dia. for the inevitible switch to 22's.
I built all the hard steel parts myself from scratch including all mounts, 4 bar, and watts link with nothing more than hand tools and a welder.

Josh

[TylerHuff]

RunninLo do you have any more pics of how you set up the rear?

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by cochino12

Here are a few pics of the notch and a quick shot of the flip kit. I was trying to get the rear sway bar to work so thats what the bracket is on bottom of the leaf pack it's coming out as soon as I can get permission to work on the truck again. Oh and it wasnt my thumb it was my middle finger, I took a picture of it too before the knuckle got reset if you want to see that too haha. Let me know if you need any more pics

Sorry about the finger.... I remembered the 'Thumbmaster' from the days of drinking games @ my bachelor pad.

Not much to those c-sections considering they're for a 1-ton. It looks about the same material thickness as the ones I installed on my 74. That's been my concern especially after things learned in the 'other' c-notch thread concerning strength vs. intended usage. They also have the angled notch v. a round notch which analysis suggests the corners can be a weak spot (analyzing & real world are two different things, but if the data suggests a weak spot, my preference is to figure out a way to eliminate it).

The 'other' c-notch thread concerning strength vs. intended usage. Post #56 has the home-made notch I did which resembles the WC notch.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ght=pipe+notch

Looks like I'll be 'engineering' some frame channel reinforcements while installing the flip-kit. My goal was to achieve a 4/6 or 5/7 drop w/o negating the strength. I wanted the same thing I had w/my 74 (no cutting the bed floor).

[RunninLo]

Originally Posted by TylerHuff

RunninLo do you have any more pics of how you set up the rear?

YouTube - 2010-10-24_21-10-45_266.3gp

Still on the to-do list finish clearancing the x-member for the drive shaft,boxing inside frame to tie into the notch, rear shocks, and replace a blown out brake cylinder in the driver side which means brake job too, and fab a hidden style reciever hitch.

also not sure why the bag mounts look tilted in this video but they are level. I had 4 different levels and a angle guage on this thing during the fab.

Josh

[steppside69]

RunninLo

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