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biohazardbill · 12-02-2011, 02:11 PM

What are things to look for when purchasing a suburban in this body style? Also what would be a fair proce for and average running driving burban with minimal rust (doors only from what I was told).

Is there an advantage to clam shell rather than barn doors?

64fleetside · 12-02-2011, 04:54 PM

rust. I paid $2500 for a running burb needing restoration.

**Corts60** · 12-02-2011, 06:19 PM

$2500 is probably going to be about average for a runner with some rust. As for the rear doors, it is preference.

protrash64 · 12-02-2011, 06:52 PM

Make sure it has everything from the doors to the rear bumper. Nothing is made for burbs with the exception of some rubber pieces.

biohazardbill · 12-02-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64

Make sure it has everything from the doors to the rear bumper. Nothing is made for burbs with the exception of some rubber pieces.

Are the doors the same as the doors on the trucks? He says the only real rust he has found is in the bottom of the doors. From the looks of it it looks like it may be missing the third seat as well.
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padresag · 12-02-2011, 08:42 PM

from the "B" pillar forward it is pretty well the same except the roof has a different crown to it and the mounting under the "B" is different and the long floor supports are different; the ones that run from frt to back.
ron

67swb72klb · 12-02-2011, 08:46 PM

doors are the same as trucks

gostranger · 12-02-2011, 11:11 PM

Make sure it has all the seats you want window latches rear bumper and all the rear doors and hardware for the rear doors are there and are in good usable condition those items are the hardest most expensive parts.
as far as rust check the roof and around the front windsheild i got my sub for 500 and it was just a roller with no seats (craigslist)
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oem4me · 12-03-2011, 02:55 AM

A Suburban will likely cost more than a truck in similar shape, and rightly so, as they did not make anywhere near as many. If you can find a solid, rust free driver for less than 5 G's, I think you're doing ok. You could pay a bit less up front and then spend a couple years and a few thou trying to get it to what you should have bought to begin with. It's your choice. Beyond that range, more money should equate to fewer needs.
As for the back end, I personally never could figure why anyone would prefer barn doors over a clamshell. Gates extend your load area and if needed can be driven securely in the open position (as long as you don't mind being mildly asphyxiated). Also, tailgate picnics are fun ...not so with doors.
Lastly, not all burbs had third seats. Check the number of rear sliding windows. Four sliders means it had three seats. Two sliders =no third seat.

Dinos63 · 12-03-2011, 11:32 AM

pm erock he has a killer one that just got painted and at a great price

biohazardbill · 12-03-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63

pm erock he has a killer one that just got painted and at a great price

Which erock, I found 3. Is there a link to the burban?
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**Captainfab** · 12-04-2011, 01:15 AM

The cargo doors (barn doors) allow a person easier access to items in the rear cargo area without having to climb onto the tailgate to reach them. I'm one of the few that like the cargo doors.

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Originally Posted by oem4me

A Suburban will likely cost more than a truck in similar shape, and rightly so, as they did not make anywhere near as many. If you can find a solid, rust free driver for less than 5 G's, I think you're doing ok. You could pay a bit less up front and then spend a couple years and a few thou trying to get it to what you should have bought to begin with. It's your choice. Beyond that range, more money should equate to fewer needs.
As for the back end, I personally never could figure why anyone would prefer barn doors over a clamshell. Gates extend your load area and if needed can be driven securely in the open position (as long as you don't mind being mildly asphyxiated). Also, tailgate picnics are fun ...not so with doors.
Lastly, not all burbs had third seats. Check the number of rear sliding windows. Four sliders means it had three seats. Two sliders =no third seat.

biohazardbill · 12-05-2011, 05:21 PM

Thanks to Dino, looks like I am getting a burb. Out of all the things to look for listed this one does not have a rear bumper, has everything else though. Is there an alternate bumper that can be used for the rear?

oem4me · 12-05-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by biohazardbill

Thanks to Dino, looks like I am getting a burb. Out of all the things to look for listed this one does not have a rear bumper, has everything else though. Is there an alternate bumper that can be used for the rear?

I heard that a front bumper will work back there, and then I heard someone say that no, it will not. Recently, I came into possession of two freshly re-chromed front and rear Suburban bumpers. When laid next to each other, they appear to be the same with the exception of some notches in the edges and different hole locations. It appears as though one could fairly easily make a rear from a front with a little cutting, drilling, and filling. (before chroming or painting, obviously).
Any body done this? Or is there another difference that I did not catch?

64fleetside · 12-05-2011, 06:43 PM

I've looked at them, came ot the same conclusion as you, seems to be the same bumper with different mounting holes, but have not tried it.

**Captainfab** · 12-06-2011, 01:13 AM

The Suburban/Panel rear bumpers are basically the same except for the mounting hole pattern. A guy could fill the mounting holes in a front bumper and drill and file square a set of new holes. But you would also have the dimpled area around the upper bolt holes to deal with.

oem4me · 12-06-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

The Suburban/Panel rear bumpers are basically the same except for the mounting hole pattern. A guy could fill the mounting holes in a front bumper and drill and file square a set of new holes. But you would also have the dimpled area around the upper bolt holes to deal with.

Actually, the dimples are there, needlessly. I'm really thinking they are the same.

**Captainfab** · 12-06-2011, 01:49 AM

I guess I should have explained myself better. What I was referring to is that if you were to fill the upper holes on a front bumper, it will be difficult to finish the welded area since it is in the dimpled area.

oem4me · 12-06-2011, 01:52 AM

Oh, yeah. True.

biohazardbill · 12-06-2011, 09:33 AM

Thanks guys,
Looking at the pictures it seems one could probably fab up something to move the mounting holes on the frame to use the existing holes in the bumper.

LT1 Burb · 12-06-2011, 10:30 AM

Or just buy mine for 50.00.

Dinos63 · 12-06-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1 Burb

Or just buy mine for 50.00.

thats a steal!!

Dinos63 · 12-06-2011, 03:33 PM

congrats on the sub !

12-02-2011, 02:11 PM	#1
biohazardbill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forsyth, Ga Posts: 1,012	Suburban Questions What are things to look for when purchasing a suburban in this body style? Also what would be a fair proce for and average running driving burban with minimal rust (doors only from what I was told). Is there an advantage to clam shell rather than barn doors?

12-02-2011, 04:54 PM	#2
64fleetside Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: arkieland Posts: 1,070	Re: Suburban Questions rust. I paid $2500 for a running burb needing restoration.

12-02-2011, 06:19 PM	#3
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12-02-2011, 06:52 PM	#4
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12-02-2011, 08:42 PM	#6
padresag Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sidney,b.c. Posts: 4,425	Re: Suburban Questions from the "B" pillar forward it is pretty well the same except the roof has a different crown to it and the mounting under the "B" is different and the long floor supports are different; the ones that run from frt to back. ron

12-02-2011, 08:46 PM	#7
67swb72klb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: livingston co.mi Posts: 2,471	Re: Suburban Questions doors are the same as trucks __________________ California 65 GTO---Texas 64 burb 283 ---Oklahoma 67 CST SWB BBW wood bed 327 2004r---New Mexico 72 k10 350 350 auto---Georga 72 short step project

12-02-2011, 11:11 PM	#8
gostranger 65 suburban vortec 5.3 bagged Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: upstate new york Posts: 1,317	Re: Suburban Questions Make sure it has all the seats you want window latches rear bumper and all the rear doors and hardware for the rear doors are there and are in good usable condition those items are the hardest most expensive parts. as far as rust check the roof and around the front windsheild i got my sub for 500 and it was just a roller with no seats (craigslist) Posted via Mobile Device

12-03-2011, 02:55 AM	#9
oem4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 3,055	Re: Suburban Questions A Suburban will likely cost more than a truck in similar shape, and rightly so, as they did not make anywhere near as many. If you can find a solid, rust free driver for less than 5 G's, I think you're doing ok. You could pay a bit less up front and then spend a couple years and a few thou trying to get it to what you should have bought to begin with. It's your choice. Beyond that range, more money should equate to fewer needs. As for the back end, I personally never could figure why anyone would prefer barn doors over a clamshell. Gates extend your load area and if needed can be driven securely in the open position (as long as you don't mind being mildly asphyxiated). Also, tailgate picnics are fun ...not so with doors. Lastly, not all burbs had third seats. Check the number of rear sliding windows. Four sliders means it had three seats. Two sliders =no third seat.

12-03-2011, 11:32 AM	#10
Dinos63 chevy only Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,619	Re: Suburban Questions pm erock he has a killer one that just got painted and at a great price __________________ CHEVY ONLY... Nothin Else !

12-05-2011, 05:21 PM	#13
biohazardbill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forsyth, Ga Posts: 1,012	Re: Suburban Questions Thanks to Dino, looks like I am getting a burb. Out of all the things to look for listed this one does not have a rear bumper, has everything else though. Is there an alternate bumper that can be used for the rear?

12-05-2011, 06:43 PM	#15
64fleetside Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: arkieland Posts: 1,070	Re: Suburban Questions I've looked at them, came ot the same conclusion as you, seems to be the same bumper with different mounting holes, but have not tried it.

12-06-2011, 01:13 AM	#16
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Suburban Questions The Suburban/Panel rear bumpers are basically the same except for the mounting hole pattern. A guy could fill the mounting holes in a front bumper and drill and file square a set of new holes. But you would also have the dimpled area around the upper bolt holes to deal with. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

12-06-2011, 01:49 AM	#18
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Suburban Questions I guess I should have explained myself better. What I was referring to is that if you were to fill the upper holes on a front bumper, it will be difficult to finish the welded area since it is in the dimpled area. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

12-06-2011, 01:52 AM	#19
oem4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 3,055	Re: Suburban Questions Oh, yeah. True.

12-06-2011, 09:33 AM	#20
biohazardbill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Forsyth, Ga Posts: 1,012	Re: Suburban Questions Thanks guys, Looking at the pictures it seems one could probably fab up something to move the mounting holes on the frame to use the existing holes in the bumper.



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