Anybody running lower then 12s QM?

[INSIDIOUS '86]

Originally Posted by redsled87

I went 11.82 in the truck in my avatar. Its a 496 with a set of mild ported 781's with, stock valves. It has 10.3 comp with a solid flat tappet cam and a gasket matched 70's torkerII and a 950hp. It also has Hooker super comps and 3" side exit exhaust with 40 series flowmasters. I'm running a TH375 with an ATI manual valvebody and a Jeg's 10" 3400 stall converter. On that pass I was running a 10 bolt with 3.73's and a rebuilt stock posi. I'm getting a 9" together with 4.11's a detriot locker for 35 spline axles. I have 275/60/15 BFG drag radials on it. With the 9", I'm going to put 325/50/15 M/T drag radials. I've also got Camaro coils in the front and, I cut out 4 of the 6 plies on the leaf springs. I also made up my own caltracs too as well as, Comp Engineering drag shocks at all four corners. I don't understand why some of the guys in this thread are saying that, faster than 12's in these trucks is crazy. My truck was very stable on all of the passes I made that day.

Not with a big block! That's easy. But making a sbc do it and be Daily driver as well. Just a lot tougher
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[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Not with a big block! That's easy. But making a sbc do it and be Daily driver as well. Just a lot tougher
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Oh YAAAA! Well i have a stock 305 and of course im running less than 12m in the 1/4!!! And its still my D/D!

[redsled87]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Not with a big block! That's easy. But making a sbc do it and be Daily driver as well. Just a lot tougher
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Nobody specified at the start of the thread!!! It is easier with a big block though. The best I got out of my sbc was a 13.25 @ 104. That was the same suspension set up and rear too. It was a mild .060 over 350 with, Vortec heads and(I know I might hear about this) a big mutha thumpr cam. But, I got the best ever passes with that cam! But, I wasn't expecting an 11 sec pass that day. I figured low 12's. On the 11.82 pass, it spun the tires when I hit 2nd. So, hopefully with a few tweaks, I'll have an 11.50 truck. Eventually, I want to get it into the 10's and be street legal. But right now, its really streetable. With, the exception of the fuel mileage of an almost 500 cube big block.

[KQQL IT]

Cool truck.
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[INSIDIOUS '86]

Originally Posted by redsled87

Nobody specified at the start of the thread!!! It is easier with a big block though. The best I got out of my sbc was a 13.25 @ 104. That was the same suspension set up and rear too. It was a mild .060 over 350 with, Vortec heads and(I know I might hear about this) a big mutha thumpr cam. But, I got the best ever passes with that cam! But, I wasn't expecting an 11 sec pass that day. I figured low 12's. On the 11.82 pass, it spun the tires when I hit 2nd. So, hopefully with a few tweaks, I'll have an 11.50 truck. Eventually, I want to get it into the 10's and be street legal. But right now, its really streetable. With, the exception of the fuel mileage of an almost 500 cube big block.

Hey I have the small thumpr in mine. It's a great cam for anybody who wants the sound power and drivability and brakes. With most other cams you can only have two of those. Just idiots buy them then hate them cause they think a half inch lift cam is going to work well on factory small block heads...no.
But it was never specified but since the original poster has a sbc I figure the thread may be better suited to sbc related stuff

I think the real the real issue is the line that while not thin but def not big is getting our bricks to do lower than 12s and still be what they are, a truck. I mean lighter smaller camaros and mustangs older Vettes and such. 450hp and your there and grandma can still drive it if your combo is good. For our trucks about 550hp is needed or 500 and a well thought setup.

So while today's tech has certainly made this possible in a sbc and a bbc can do this with ease I think we all know its easy to do 10s with our trucks and we all know basicly how to do it. Not hard to figure out that big meats a good rear susp and big motor and being stripped will get you there. But doing it and being street able esp with a small block. I think that is what maybe this thread should focus on and some bbc too cause we love em. But hey who here can say tomarow they are just going to buy an ls7 for 12k tomarow and throw it in? Not very realistic now is it?
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[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Hey I have the small thumpr in mine. It's a great cam for anybody who wants the sound power and drivability and brakes. With most other cams you can only have two of those. Just idiots buy them then hate them cause they think a half inch lift cam is going to work well on factory small block heads...no.
But it was never specified but since the original poster has a sbc I figure the thread may be better suited to sbc related stuff

I think the real the real issue is the line that while not thin but def not big is getting our bricks to do lower than 12s and still be what they are, a truck. I mean lighter smaller camaros and mustangs older Vettes and such. 450hp and your there and grandma can still drive it if your combo is good. For our trucks about 550hp is needed or 500 and a well thought setup.

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Redsled
i comend you for dropping a 8.1 liter in your square, are those castings for EFI vortecs on the big blocks or old school? insidious, he is right, i think it would be easy to take a nasty small block and turn our arrow dynamic bricks into rockets, but intill then i say the big blocks are allowed, not many small blocks running the street in our squares touting less than 12 second passes, not to mention the all stock part. so yea much of what you and i are gonna hear on this thread post is gonna be sick, nasty small blocks, and BIG BLOCKS!

[Hulk Will Smash]

There's a guy out if Florida that I've seen on pass time who's running into the mid 11s as I recall in a dually. White truck, very stock "looking", I think he owns a plumbing company. I recall he's over 1,000hp on a boosted big block.

I've seen a number of tube chassis squares run pretty good, but not as well as the same drive train would have run in a platform with better aero.

That Ms. Misery truck is something to see though!
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[redsled87]

Originally Posted by chevybuilder18

Redsled
i comend you for dropping a 8.1 liter in your square, are those castings for EFI vortecs on the big blocks or old school? insidious, he is right, i think it would be easy to take a nasty small block and turn our arrow dynamic bricks into rockets, but intill then i say the big blocks are allowed, not many small blocks running the street in our squares touting less than 12 second passes, not to mention the all stock part. so yea much of what you and i are gonna hear on this thread post is gonna be sick, nasty small blocks, and BIG BLOCKS!

The 781 castings are old school. The block and heads are from a '73 Chevy truck. I actually started with a std bore 360hp 454 out of a '70 Chevelle that, I bought complete from my uncle last summer for a dollar a cube. To make a long story short, we sold my bare block to a numbers resto guy for $800. We kept the stock rotator and found that the crank was cracked. So, we orderd a Scat forged rotating assy. In that conversation, we also traded my closed chamber heads for the 781 open chamber ones. I've only got around $4500 or so in the whole thing. It would be pretty hard to do that with an sbc and run what I did. Even with the $800 added to that if I wouldn't have been lucky, I'd still only have about $5300 in it.

[redsled87]

Mine really isn't that stock anymore. I the only thing GM is, the block and heads.

[Ziegelsteinfaust]

My friend built a 500 cad with a switch pitch backed up by the stock Cad rear end with 2.73 in a 73 square body. The compression ration was 9-1, roller rockers, Comp 268 like cam, dual plane high rise, built Q jet, and a good quality build.

It had a 5/7 lowering job, 295/60/15 tires, and slapper bars that were properly set-up for fun.

It was firmly in the 12's, and with tuning could of touched high 11's on a good day. Plus it would regularly get over 15 mpg driving 75, and just about tow any hill flat.

Being a rcsb it was pretty hairy when you really got on it, and I think a rclb would of been a better choice. None the less it would fire up on the first shot, and drive no problem in the cold LA winters.

[Hulk Will Smash]

Just saw some pics of a good looking drag square in a guys sig on yellow bullet. Don't have any stats but it was leaving wheels up. Post them when I get a chance from the big computer.
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[Hulk Will Smash]

Maybe a couple of these are someone on here?

And yes, I know, not necessarily streetable trucks in all cases, but I've seen some pretty intersting things driven on the street...

[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by redsled87

The 781 castings are old school. The block and heads are from a '73 Chevy truck. I actually started with a std bore 360hp 454 out of a '70 Chevelle that, I bought complete from my uncle last summer for a dollar a cube. To make a long story short, we sold my bare block to a numbers resto guy for $800. We kept the stock rotator and found that the crank was cracked. So, we orderd a Scat forged rotating assy. In that conversation, we also traded my closed chamber heads for the 781 open chamber ones. I've only got around $4500 or so in the whole thing. It would be pretty hard to do that with an sbc and run what I did. Even with the $800 added to that if I wouldn't have been lucky, I'd still only have about $5300 in it.

oh so you stroked it huh? thought you had the newer roller 8.1 liter, but very nice build combo, lol.

Originally Posted by redsled87

Mine really isn't that stock anymore. I the only thing GM is, the block and heads.

Originally Posted by Ziegelsteinfaust

My friend built a 500 cad with a switch pitch backed up by the stock Cad rear end with 2.73 in a 73 square body. The compression ration was 9-1, roller rockers, Comp 268 like cam, dual plane high rise, built Q jet, and a good quality build.

It had a 5/7 lowering job, 295/60/15 tires, and slapper bars that were properly set-up for fun.

It was firmly in the 12's, and with tuning could of touched high 11's on a good day. Plus it would regularly get over 15 mpg driving 75, and just about tow any hill flat.

Being a rcsb it was pretty hairy when you really got on it, and I think a rclb would of been a better choice. None the less it would fire up on the first shot, and drive no problem in the cold LA winters.

i tell these guys those caddy motors will make a huge difference, seen one in a smaller chevrolet 50s style pick up with step side, it was on you tube, he gave her a couple good revs and the whole truck was bouncing side to side. now thats my kinda horse power

[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by Hulk Will Smash

Maybe a couple of these are someone on here?

And yes, I know, not necessarily streetable trucks in all cases, but I've seen some pretty intersting things driven on the street...

jesus! lol 9 maybe high 8s on those! what classes are those? looks like there meant for full on class drag racing

[Hulk Will Smash]

Ms. Misery is an outlaw 10.5 truck. Runs 4 wheel drive and I understand its a serious handful. He's wadded it up big a could times. It's a bad mother though! 4.77 at 150 in the 1/8.

http://youtu.be/dtt49A5_tfM

http://youtu.be/2Liw_8hEuo8

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[Hulk Will Smash]

And here's the dually.

http://youtu.be/7_BjAT9LJEY

11.09 at 134.
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[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by Hulk Will Smash

Ms. Misery is an outlaw 10.5 truck. Runs 4 wheel drive and I understand its a serious handful. He's wadded it up big a could times. It's a bad mother though! 4.77 at 150 in the 1/8.

http://youtu.be/dtt49A5_tfM

http://youtu.be/2Liw_8hEuo8

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Originally Posted by Hulk Will Smash

And here's the dually.

http://youtu.be/7_BjAT9LJEY

11.09 at 134.
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The sad part is the dually is actually more tame

[bobbybyrns]

I run 11.82 in my 86 swb with a tall deck 427 big block stock by no means tho with a th400 with a shift kit backing it and a 8.5 10 bolt with a set of 4.10 gears and a full spool

that's a full out run tho no power steering no alternator electric water pump and fan and open cut outs and i drive the truck to work all most every other day

[totos956]

Originally Posted by Low84

Bring it to the Valley (South Texas) and it'll run it automatically

LS2

LQ4

383 Stroker

Nitrous 408

Yup you got a point bring it to South Texas
You will be running 12's all day long
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[chevybuilder18]

lol lets get technicall. if i put one of these big squares in a drag race. two at different elevations but same combo. you guys think air pressure is very important? lol of coarse not. BUT this is a for seeing and i can see were it is going. everybodys gonna start talking crazy about sea levels. ever think of hills?

[INSIDIOUS '86]

Well we will make one reply out of air levels. Going from sea level to say a state like Utah will take about 15% of your power away at least. That's big!

A turbo makes quick work out of that though. If you want to go past the 12s and even into
The tens and still be able to get decent mpg and street manners boost is the best way.
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[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Well we will make one reply out of air levels. Going from sea level to say a state like Utah will take about 15% of your power away at least. That's big!

A turbo makes quick work out of that though. If you want to go past the 12s and even into
The tens and still be able to get decent mpg and street manners boost is the best way.
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insidious, i got the 5300 vortec truck engine, not the ls1. but i do have the aluminum heads. talked to people about carbing it. its a no go. the EFI im keeping, if you like check out my build thread and ill post some pics of the engine.

[kustomrust82]

Originally Posted by bk2life

guna try it in my CC Dually.. yes CC Dually.

Have you seen the whit cc that was on pinks "Dually from Hell" 555cu.in BBC procharged, 1028HP, 7,000lbs, runs 11.09!

This thing is sick!!

Dually from Hell on Pass Time Speed TV Steve...

Dyno pull!

Dually from Hell - YouTube

[kustomrust82]

This beans diesel shortbed is nasty!

What does 1000HP look like? - YouTube

Thing is wild!

Another crazy launch and wheel stand - YouTube

[chevybuilder18]

love the diesel, it certainly is different. not to mention how it blows alot of stuff away.