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292 l6 to a 5 speed?
Ok so I'm building a 63 c10. I have a 292 that has a lot more power coming from it. I've seen people suggest a nv3500 transmission but most people use it on a 250. The 292 has a little more grunt to it and I don't want to tear it apart in short order. I want to go with something that I don't need to worry about. I had a 3 speed, but I need to keep the rpm's down on the highway
This truck will be a driver. But will also be taken to the drag strip with my buddies. Any suggestions? Thank you |
06-17-2014, 07:34 PM | #2 |
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
yeah send me all you unwanted 3 speed zbar parts and i send u a np205 granny gear 4speed... maybe a PG would fit ur bill. tame daily driver/then ball$ to wall strip beast!!!
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
A granny 4 is the same performance and hwy rpm as the stock 3. It just has a near usless 1st and the same 1 to 1 hi gear.
To drop the rpm yell need either or both of an OD trans and differenr ring/pinion. A WC Camaro T5 would likely be okay rearward of a 292 I6 or go 200/700 R4. |
06-17-2014, 10:52 PM | #4 |
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
I'm looking to keep a manual transmission now. But yes I need an over drive for highway use.
I have a bench seat. I wonder if the t5 would end up to far back? |
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
Check out Sharps40's build thread...He put a T5 in his truck..He's gotta 250...The T5 outta a 1995 S-10 V6 chevy will work...all you need is the bellhousing adapter from Stovebolt.com and I believe a different crossmember and yer good to go...they are a nice fairly close ratio trans. How pumped up is your 292??? Here's a picture of my 292.
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
Do you have a link?
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I don't...I'll try an get you one though...Here's the picture of mine that I was talking about. I have a 600 edelbrock, short tube headers, hei.
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What brand distributor or where did you get yours? Looks nice!
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The NV3500 should hold up behind your 292. While they are rated at about 300lbft, GM did put them behind the Vortec 350's and they hold up fairly well in that application. However you will have to change to a hydraulic clutch for the NV3500.
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
I wouldn't go with the T5, as you mentioned "drag strip". I thought about using one for mine, just as a driver, but after doing all the research, and even buying a couple T5's (you need a world class and then need a different tailshaft) I ended up selling them and buying a TKO-500. 5 Speed overdrive, all brand new, and will take 500 ft lb of torque. It's not cheap, but it's perfect.
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Agreed and per Tom Langdon, Stovebolts Engine Company, the S10 T5 is not the trans for abusive use as it was typically designed to run behind a 150"ish motor in a lighter vehicle and with a small motors amount of abuse. If I was going to occasionally drag, I'd use the World Class V8 Camaro T5 or find something different with an overdrive. Its too bad but many of the options will cost more than the truck + paint + engine!
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
Its a SpeedMaster GM HEI with a 65K coil....bruns all the fuel like nothing. lol I also didn't see you mentioned Drag Strip...No..the S10 T5 Transmission Will NOT be a good choice...It'd be better to purchase a Tremic 5 speed that will handle high amounts of torque.
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Where did you buy it from? any special spacers for tail shaft reasons? |
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Anyone use a Richmond?
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For the T5 transmission - 1993 was the last year that a Chevy S10 or GMC S15 had a T5 with a Chevy pattern case. From 1994 on, the T5s in S10/S15 trucks had a FORD pattern case. So a 1995 T5 will not bolt up to a 292 bell housing. I also don't think that Stovebolt.com sells bell housing adapters. If the OP wants a daily driver 5 speed OD transmission, then a T5 is an economical and practical option, but I agree that it will not take abuse. If the OP decides to stay off the drag strip and will refrain from doing burnouts, then the world class T5 from a 1988 -92 Camaro or Firebird would be a good choice. Keeping the bench seat would require a tail housing swap. Going with bucket seats would allow him to keep the Camaro shifter position and keep the cable speedo connection too. Adapter plates are only needed for the S10/S15 T5s and there are even ways to get around that.
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Nice thing about Richmond is that they are the chevy bolt pattern.....issue is they are spendy as heck...like them all...I've seen the Richmond Non-OD 5 speed Trans used....nice thing is its a close ratio trans...but yer gonna wanna nice OD trans if yer gonna stay with the stock gear ratio.
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T.J. McCauley,
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
LT1 T56 is rated at 450 tq and will bolt up.
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Gonna need bucket seats! lol!
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Or just relocate the shifter. Can be done with a ball socket and linkage back to the original shifter, and it should fit under a factory high hump.
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And . . . . . drum roll please . . . . it can accept a cable speedo connection so you can keep the original instrument cluster if that's the "look" you want.
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I have a Richmond behind the 250 in my '66. It's not a hot engine though, and I put 3.08s in the rear.
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Re: 292 l6 to a 5 speed?
I don't mean to hi jack this thread but since we have so many T5 Gurus here I have a few questions on this swap.
My Brother is replacing his stock 283 front mount engine and 3 speed mid mount at bellhousing in his 1961 X frame short bed. He's putting in a new GM crate 300HP 350 with stock 3:90 rear end gears and T5 shown below. Question one, can he still use the same 61 bellhousing and mid mount ? Two, looks like I'm reading he needs a hydraulic clutch, which he already has but what's different ? Three, is drive shaft length different ? Four, heres the trans he is using, can he use the original low hump or does he need the high hump and will it affect his bench seat with this shifter location ?? Any other parts or suggestions Id like to help him before it gets to involved. Thanks !!
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