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08-26-2014, 05:59 PM
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Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Continually over the course of my 2 year restoration I've been searching for and hassling people about finding a good original reference photo of the 400 valve cover emblem.
Years later and still not a one. I guess they were not very durable. I could 'guess' and make one up as close as I can try and who would call me on it, since no one has ever seen one! But I'd still prefer they were close to right. Can anyone add any visual data to this? It could be 70-only and I've only see the sticker used on Longhorns, though that doesn't mean much. And if it says Invader 400, it's for the GMC Sprint. That's what LMC will sell you.
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08-26-2014, 08:09 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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I was working on one at one time and posted a picture of the rough draft in your thread but I got the impression you weren't interested since you never acknowledged my post, so I quit working on it..... LockDoc
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08-26-2014, 08:10 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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I'm sure you've seen these . . . they might even be from your "collection" !!! They were said to be from a GMC !!! . . . . |
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08-26-2014, 08:12 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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08-26-2014, 08:13 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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08-26-2014, 08:16 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Here's a 72 402 GMC, by which time they were apparently different.
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08-26-2014, 08:19 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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It was just from a brochure or some other document . . . Here is the original picture . . . the only one I have. What I wrote at the time was: "70 GMC foil 3D" . . . . |
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12-27-2014, 03:34 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Hi Dave. I took some pictures of an original 1970 GMC med. duty with a 427. It is a local city fire truck with only 3500 miles. I have access to the truck and can get you better pictures with measurements if it would be helpful.
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12-28-2014, 07:57 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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I think a close-up of this one ( without the obstructions ) will help a lot for anyone who wants to make one . . . . . . the words look like they might have the same design: . . . . |
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12-28-2014, 11:46 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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12-28-2014, 11:54 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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The 70 and 71 GMC 307 and 350's used this type - as seen on Joe'sjunk's low mileage truck: ( the same as on the Chevy's too ) . . . . |
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12-28-2014, 03:48 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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I would indeed love if you could get some closer photos, ideally with a ruler on it. I'm no guru but I do know how to set the scale in Photoshop so if there's a ruler in the picture I can make everything the right size. Also if you could make any notes about what's beveled or raised or chiseled edges or anything that's 3D about it would be good to know. It's hard to get embossed decals done but if I can, all the better. Sounds like a great lead, please chase it!
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12-28-2014, 05:12 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
I will get some better pictures with dimensions, possibly tomorrow. As far as I can tell, the decal is flat but will know more when I can feel it. This one is located on the drivers side towards the rear of the engine.
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12-29-2014, 09:45 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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Be VERY careful if you try to clean it !!! This is what happened to the one I posted above when it was CAREFULLY cleaned !!! They are VERY fragile after over 40 years !!! . . . . |
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12-29-2014, 10:54 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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12-29-2014, 12:04 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
That 427 decal is as close as you're going to get to the original. Unfortunately you would need to measure the letters in person to get it in scale or it's an educated guess or scale perspective as to the size and design of the letters. I've tried several times to get a couple good graphic artists to replicate the 350 decals and apparently they don't have the eye for detail as I thought they would because there's always something wrong with the design. It lead to them saying "if you want it exact I need the measurements", then I tell them " if I had the measurements I could replicate it myself", and it goes nowhere. Best of luck!
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12-29-2014, 02:54 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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12-29-2014, 04:09 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Is it just me or does the decal look like the fender emblem with the color reversed and the words "cubic inches" below the engine size? At least the 8 350 decal does.
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12-29-2014, 04:23 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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It IS supposed to look like it: . . . . |
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12-29-2014, 06:42 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Took a bunch of pictures today. I hope these are of some use. Because of the location of the decal it was very difficult to get good straight on camera shots. The decal was flat, no raised portions. The back portion of the decal was installed over the radius of the valve cover so it was very hard to get an exact length measurement. My best guess is 5 7/8 on the length. Let me know if you want any more pictures or have any more questions.
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12-29-2014, 06:58 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
Some more.
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12-29-2014, 08:27 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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Those pictures are GREAT !!! That is really going to help someone reproduce the 400 decal. Is there ANY trace of a decal on the other valve cover ? |
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12-29-2014, 11:39 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
No, only on the drivers side towards the rear.
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12-30-2014, 08:00 AM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
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That's VERY interesting . . . the 70 - 71 " 8 350 " decals were only on the PASSENGER side !!! |
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01-05-2015, 08:27 PM
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Re: Is there really NO ONE with a 400 valve cover sticker?
These are not mine but thought I would post them here since I remembered the post. These are in the craigs listing link.
 http://greenville.craigslist.org/pts/4798555585.html
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