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Heavymetl · 10-19-2015, 09:30 AM

I'm running an Fbody pan with a modified truck windage tray. My truck is fairly low, however the shallow fbody piece gives plenty of ground clearance and is well above the crossmember.

GMJimmy · 10-19-2015, 08:59 PM

Does anybody have comparison measurements or pictures to compare the F body and CTSV pans? If the CTSV pan is about the same as the Holley pan I may go with it instead.

BigDan3131 · 10-20-2015, 07:38 AM

You guys can keep your factory pans I'm using the Moroso Pan: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-20142 because it offers 7 quarts and the usual standard baffles and trap doors. I'm future proofed to build a big inch engine too.

boostedc10 · 10-20-2015, 08:16 AM

Here is the v pan

Here is the fbody

**Hart_Rod** · 10-20-2015, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMJimmy

Does anybody have comparison measurements or pictures to compare the F body and CTSV pans? If the CTSV pan is about the same as the Holley pan I may go with it instead.

Which motor mounts/engine stands are you using?

Aruba1 · 10-20-2015, 10:09 AM

Won't the fbody create a possible clearing issue as it will be closer to the crossmember? I am at work right now but IIRC my oil pan is very close to the crossmember and my LS engine sits in the same place as the SBC. You can gain clearance if the engine sits a few inches back though.

**Hart_Rod** · 10-20-2015, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aruba1

Won't the fbody create a possible clearing issue as it will be closer to the crossmember? I am at work right now but IIRC my oil pan is very close to the crossmember and my LS engine sits in the same place as the SBC. You can gain clearance if the engine sits a few inches back though.

If you use the ECE LS swap mounts, the Fbody pan won't work because of the crossmember interference. That was the reason I switched to the CTSV oil pan. If you are using some slider mounts such that you can move the engine back, then the Fbody pan will probably work.

GMJimmy · 10-20-2015, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedc10

Here is the v pan

Here is the fbody

Boosted C10 Thanks for the pictures! That really helps! Hart_Rod I'm using transdap 4575 mount adapters and the stock C10 perches and mounts. It fits in there really good. The CTSV pan looks like it may be the one to go with but I need a part number. I don't want to be poking around the wrecking yards looking for this pan and trying to remove a good used one so I'll probably buy a new one at the dealer or from the aftermarket guys.

boostedc10 · 10-20-2015, 10:24 PM

CTS-V oil pan: Part#12605814
Oil pan Baffle: Part# 12611129
Oil pump pickup: Part# 12621299
Oil dipstick tube: Part# 12584737
Oil dipstick: Part# 12584738

**derotoreut** · 10-21-2015, 12:03 AM

I would recommend the Holley pan. It may be more money, but I love it. Just be sure of which one you need. I ended up installing the 302-1 at first and then found out I had an interference issue with my cross member and had to go to the 302-2. Fortunately, I was able to return the 302-1 to Summit. You need to understand though that my chassis is a custom chassis with rack and pinion. The 302-1 hit my rack and pinion and there was no way to know that ahead of time.

Don't be scared by the windage tray modifications either. They are no big deal. The 302-2 pan requires more windage tray modification, which I didn't want to do, so I bought the right windage tray (PN 12558253) from Summit for $24. The 302-1 windage tray mod is easy. If you go to Holley's web site they even tell you what windage tray you need and what oil dipstick to use. Lots of info at their web page.

Here is the comparison between the 302-1 & 302-1 pan. Also a picture of my LS3 with the 302-1 installed first.

**derotoreut** · 10-21-2015, 12:07 AM

Here are pictures of the Holley pan install with windage trays. The first picture is of the windage tray for the 302-1. Second one is with the 302-2 windage tray.

The windage tray for the 302-2 needs to be cut, while the 302-1 has a minor mod around the pick up tube bolt. That's why I just bought the proper windage tray for the 302-2.

**derotoreut** · 10-21-2015, 12:10 AM

You can see I had a clearance issue with my rack and pinion with the 302-1 by the first picture. I had to go with the 302-2 (2nd & 3rd pics) in order to get the proper clearance for my rack.

**derotoreut** · 10-21-2015, 12:21 AM

Here's a couple pictures of my chassis and LS3 with the 302-1 installed. You can see I had a lot of clearance until I installed the rack and pinion. Again, I would buy the Holley pan. You will not be disappointed.

GMJimmy · 10-21-2015, 07:43 PM

I think I'm going with the Holley 302-1. I was thinking the 301-2 would be better for me because of the very shallow front end but I'm concerned about the 9.84 inch fore and aft length of the sump may hit my cross member. I think the 302-1 front depth of 2.42" and sump measurement of 7.65" should work in my truck.

Thanks everyone for the help! It really makes a difference!
Jim

Cobalt964ruf · 10-22-2015, 04:55 AM

I use the ls2-ls3 factory road race pan in my lsv8 911. it is the shortest of all ls oem pans and is a gm oem pan with baffles for hard cornering. gmpp 12624617 it is only 4.25" tall.

Cobalt964ruf · 10-22-2015, 05:09 AM

pan measurements

88k5jimmy · 03-01-2016, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derotoreut

Here are pictures of the Holley pan install with windage trays. The first picture is of the windage tray for the 302-1. Second one is with the 302-2 windage tray.

The windage tray for the 302-2 needs to be cut, while the 302-1 has a minor mod around the pick up tube bolt. That's why I just bought the proper windage tray for the 302-2.

Where did you find the instructions for the 302-1 windage tray mod?

Thanks

boostedc10 · 03-01-2016, 08:10 PM

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...UrutTw32wrD9Jw

**derotoreut** · 03-01-2016, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88k5jimmy

Where did you find the instructions for the 302-1 windage tray mod?

Thanks

Info found on Holley's website or at link in post above.

88k5jimmy · 03-02-2016, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedc10

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...UrutTw32wrD9Jw

Quote:

Originally Posted by derotoreut

Info found on Holley's website or at link in post above.

Thanks!!

SierraMtns · 08-24-2019, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedc10

CTS-V oil pan: Part#12605814
Oil pan Baffle: Part# 12611129
Oil pump pickup: Part# 12621299
Oil dipstick tube: Part# 12584737
Oil dipstick: Part# 12584738

Did the CTS-V oil pan change to #12631828 ?

D-n-Tyke · 05-31-2022, 06:00 PM

Bring up an old thread trying to find an answer. When running he Holley 302-2 pan can you run the stock dipstick and dipstick tube, or do you have to use a different dipstick set (and if so which one?)?

**Jason Banks** · 05-31-2022, 09:11 PM

The Holley® LS Swap oil pans are designed to work with an LS3 dipstick and tube (if desired). Below are the part numbers:   LS Dipstick – GM P/N 12634547 LS tube – GM P/N 12625031

I copied the above from the Pan instructions. When I did mine, I cross referenced them to Dorman part numbers and bought those instead of the GM.

10-19-2015, 09:30 AM	#26
Heavymetl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 292	Re: Which oil pan? I'm running an Fbody pan with a modified truck windage tray. My truck is fairly low, however the shallow fbody piece gives plenty of ground clearance and is well above the crossmember. __________________ 1970 C10 Turbo LM7 5.3/LS6 cam PT7675/4L80E/Holley Dominator EFI/E85 Moser 9" 3.25/4 wheel discs 11.16@121.07

10-19-2015, 08:59 PM	#27
GMJimmy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 164	Re: Which oil pan? Does anybody have comparison measurements or pictures to compare the F body and CTSV pans? If the CTSV pan is about the same as the Holley pan I may go with it instead.

10-20-2015, 07:38 AM	#28
BigDan3131 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 1,913	Re: Which oil pan? You guys can keep your factory pans I'm using the Moroso Pan: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-20142 because it offers 7 quarts and the usual standard baffles and trap doors. I'm future proofed to build a big inch engine too. __________________ Custom Painter/Restoration Specialist 1965 GMC 3/4 Ton LB SOLD? 1964 Chevy El Camino in full restoration 1991 Chevy S10 288K+ miles 2nd Owner SOLD 2020 RAM 1500 Warlock

10-20-2015, 08:16 AM	#29
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: Which oil pan? Here is the v pan Here is the fbody __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

10-20-2015, 10:09 AM	#31
Aruba1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 560	Re: Which oil pan? Won't the fbody create a possible clearing issue as it will be closer to the crossmember? I am at work right now but IIRC my oil pan is very close to the crossmember and my LS engine sits in the same place as the SBC. You can gain clearance if the engine sits a few inches back though.

10-20-2015, 10:24 PM	#34
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: Which oil pan? CTS-V oil pan: Part#12605814 Oil pan Baffle: Part# 12611129 Oil pump pickup: Part# 12621299 Oil dipstick tube: Part# 12584737 Oil dipstick: Part# 12584738 __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

10-21-2015, 12:03 AM	#35
derotoreut Roto Reuter thats the name... Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Darien, NY Posts: 1,853	Re: Which oil pan? I would recommend the Holley pan. It may be more money, but I love it. Just be sure of which one you need. I ended up installing the 302-1 at first and then found out I had an interference issue with my cross member and had to go to the 302-2. Fortunately, I was able to return the 302-1 to Summit. You need to understand though that my chassis is a custom chassis with rack and pinion. The 302-1 hit my rack and pinion and there was no way to know that ahead of time. Don't be scared by the windage tray modifications either. They are no big deal. The 302-2 pan requires more windage tray modification, which I didn't want to do, so I bought the right windage tray (PN 12558253) from Summit for $24. The 302-1 windage tray mod is easy. If you go to Holley's web site they even tell you what windage tray you need and what oil dipstick to use. Lots of info at their web page. Here is the comparison between the 302-1 & 302-1 pan. Also a picture of my LS3 with the 302-1 installed first. Attached Images __________________ ~ Dan My 70 K10 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=782232 My 71 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651394 1970 SWB Fleet K10 4X4, 5.3L LM7, 4L60E, Dakota Digital RTX, Vintage Air, Ididit tilt 1971 SWB Fleet C10 - Original SWB Arizona truck, new custom restoration project "Kick out your motor and drive while you're still alive - kick it out!" - Heart 1977

10-21-2015, 12:07 AM	#36
derotoreut Roto Reuter thats the name... Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Darien, NY Posts: 1,853	Re: Which oil pan? Here are pictures of the Holley pan install with windage trays. The first picture is of the windage tray for the 302-1. Second one is with the 302-2 windage tray. The windage tray for the 302-2 needs to be cut, while the 302-1 has a minor mod around the pick up tube bolt. That's why I just bought the proper windage tray for the 302-2. Attached Images __________________ ~ Dan My 70 K10 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=782232 My 71 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651394 1970 SWB Fleet K10 4X4, 5.3L LM7, 4L60E, Dakota Digital RTX, Vintage Air, Ididit tilt 1971 SWB Fleet C10 - Original SWB Arizona truck, new custom restoration project "Kick out your motor and drive while you're still alive - kick it out!" - Heart 1977

10-21-2015, 12:10 AM	#37
derotoreut Roto Reuter thats the name... Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Darien, NY Posts: 1,853	Re: Which oil pan? You can see I had a clearance issue with my rack and pinion with the 302-1 by the first picture. I had to go with the 302-2 (2nd & 3rd pics) in order to get the proper clearance for my rack. Attached Images __________________ ~ Dan My 70 K10 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=782232 My 71 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651394 1970 SWB Fleet K10 4X4, 5.3L LM7, 4L60E, Dakota Digital RTX, Vintage Air, Ididit tilt 1971 SWB Fleet C10 - Original SWB Arizona truck, new custom restoration project "Kick out your motor and drive while you're still alive - kick it out!" - Heart 1977

10-21-2015, 12:21 AM	#38
derotoreut Roto Reuter thats the name... Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Darien, NY Posts: 1,853	Re: Which oil pan? Here's a couple pictures of my chassis and LS3 with the 302-1 installed. You can see I had a lot of clearance until I installed the rack and pinion. Again, I would buy the Holley pan. You will not be disappointed. Attached Images __________________ ~ Dan My 70 K10 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=782232 My 71 SWB build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651394 1970 SWB Fleet K10 4X4, 5.3L LM7, 4L60E, Dakota Digital RTX, Vintage Air, Ididit tilt 1971 SWB Fleet C10 - Original SWB Arizona truck, new custom restoration project "Kick out your motor and drive while you're still alive - kick it out!" - Heart 1977

10-21-2015, 07:43 PM	#39
GMJimmy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 164	Re: Which oil pan? I think I'm going with the Holley 302-1. I was thinking the 301-2 would be better for me because of the very shallow front end but I'm concerned about the 9.84 inch fore and aft length of the sump may hit my cross member. I think the 302-1 front depth of 2.42" and sump measurement of 7.65" should work in my truck. Thanks everyone for the help! It really makes a difference! Jim

10-22-2015, 04:55 AM	#40
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: Which oil pan? I use the ls2-ls3 factory road race pan in my lsv8 911. it is the shortest of all ls oem pans and is a gm oem pan with baffles for hard cornering. gmpp 12624617 it is only 4.25" tall. __________________ 1971 K30 burb carbed LS6 th400 np205 d70f 14bff 4whl discs lifted 35 bfg's 1994 k3500 rcsb trophy truck ls427 4l85e bw4401 9.25ifs 14bff g80 35 bfg's 1998 K3500 rclb ls427 4l85e bw4401 9.25ifs 14bff g80 35 bfg's 1999 k3500 crewcab dually 4x4 496ci 4l85e bw4401 9.25ifs 14bff g80 6" lift 37 bfg's Last edited by Cobalt964ruf; 10-22-2015 at 05:06 AM.

10-22-2015, 05:09 AM	#41
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: Which oil pan? pan measurements Attached Images Last edited by Cobalt964ruf; 10-22-2015 at 05:14 AM.

03-01-2016, 08:10 PM	#43
boostedc10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 748	Re: Which oil pan? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...UrutTw32wrD9Jw __________________ Brandon Instagram: DRVFSTR Current Project: Beatrix - 1967 SWB LQ4/78mm Turbo/4L80e/ on bags Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634691

05-31-2022, 06:00 PM	#47
D-n-Tyke Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: El Cajon, CA Posts: 284	Re: Which oil pan? Bring up an old thread trying to find an answer. When running he Holley 302-2 pan can you run the stock dipstick and dipstick tube, or do you have to use a different dipstick set (and if so which one?)?



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05-31-2022, 09:11 PM	#48
Jason Banks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TX Posts: 1,624	Re: Which oil pan? The Holley® LS Swap oil pans are designed to work with an LS3 dipstick and tube (if desired). Below are the part numbers:   LS Dipstick – GM P/N 12634547 LS tube – GM P/N 12625031 I copied the above from the Pan instructions. When I did mine, I cross referenced them to Dorman part numbers and bought those instead of the GM.

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