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70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 06:00 PM

Here is the deal....repainted, new seat cover....belonged to a man who has owned it for 95% of its life...he just died at 100 years of age. He had it painted and the seat recovered about 7 years ago...originally an ochre truck.

Family trying to sell truck. Supposedly 19,000 mile original truck..

I am seriously considering buying this truck....$10K.

Lets play the game of "that isn't an original mileage truck and here's why.."

70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 06:06 PM

Some more pics.....And as of right now they have no proof of the mileage other than the in laws word that the truck sat in the same garage for 20 years and hasn't been registered since '08. He apparently drove it sporatically over the years.

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**leddzepp** · 01-11-2016, 06:11 PM

I doubt it. Plastic fuel filter, chrome water neck, why would those be added onto such a low mile truck? Still looks like a nice truck though. Believe what you want, there's no proof either way, just speculation.

**michael bustamante** · 01-11-2016, 06:21 PM

how worn are the foot pedal rubbers?

70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 06:28 PM

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how worn are the foot pedal rubbers?

Best picture I have of them. They look pretty Unused....

**LockDoc** · 01-11-2016, 06:29 PM

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Dash bezel's been painted. Firewall has been painted. Missing the ignition switch plate. Steering wheel wouldn't be that bad on a low mile truck that has been stored inside.

LockDoc

68 CRACKERBOX · 01-11-2016, 06:33 PM

it's been repainted(good job) seat recovered, been setting 20 years. 19,000 or 119000 don't really make much diff. it is not a original anyway. I would think on it best day it wouldn't be a 4000 to 5000 truck.also there could be alot hiding under that new paint. I think it would have been worth more if they had left it alone.

**Stocker** · 01-11-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 68 CRACKERBOX

also there could be alot hiding under that new paint. I think it would have been worth more if they had left it alone.

Agreed. And since nobody mentioned it yet, that seems like a lot of wear & tear on the SPID for only 19K miles. Nice truck though....

**LockDoc** · 01-11-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 70chevytruck

Best picture I have of them. They look pretty Unused....

You have to look at the right side of the brake pedal pad. There should not be any wear on it at all in 19000 miles....

LockDoc

70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 06:38 PM

Truck is a Texas truck so I can justify the wheel being cracked.

The brake and clutch pedals look like they should.

The truck was color changed from ochre to this yellow color.

The water neck and the fuel filter have been changed and I can understand that if they went to Pep boys or somewhere.

I am thinking I will have to drive 4 1/2 hours Saturday to lay eyes on it....Texas is a big place. If there is no rust and the underside is immaculate then I could believe the mileage claim.

Would also check out the tires and see what the manufacture date is on them...they have lots of tread. If they are 20 years old then I could see it being original mileage.

**LockDoc** · 01-11-2016, 06:51 PM

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The next time you go look at it take a good strong light and a piece of cardboard big enough to lay on and check the body mounts and inner rockers out. Even though it is not all original it looks like a nice truck. The condition of the bed tells me that it had a pretty easy life. Its pretty easy to tell if it has had any major body work done to it. If it drives nice and the engine sounds good they are not too far off on the price, maybe 2k high but you couldn't buy a $3,000 driver and make it look like that for that kind of money unless you could do ALL of the work yourself....

Just my 2¢ worth.

LockDoc

NoNeck · 01-11-2016, 06:52 PM

It might be just the photos... but the speedo and gas needles look too red to be original. The factory needles were more of a Tennessee orange. Why would those need to be painted with only 19K? I don't know, but if you have some restoration anywhere around the speedometer that would bother me.

Is the grille painted black or is that just the photo? Is the front bumper painted silver or is that just the photo?

POP

NoNeck · 01-11-2016, 06:56 PM

Would an Ochre truck have a black interior (steering column, door panels, etc.? Just asking...
POP

GTSideSwipe · 01-11-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoNeck

It might be just the photos... but the speedo and gas needles look too red to be original. The factory needles were more of a Tennessee orange. Why would those need to be painted with only 19K? I don't know, but if you have some restoration anywhere around the speedometer that would bother me.

Is the grille painted black or is that just the photo? Is the front bumper painted silver or is that just the photo?

POP

That grill is indeed black and the bumper might just look that way from being dirty? If not judging from the photo it is also painted silver.

hugger6933 · 01-11-2016, 07:18 PM

Why are there no marker lamps on the bed? With that being said, the paint color change was taken seriously and they did a real good job of it. That is the explaination of the ign plate above the switch they broke it or lost it during the paintjob. not real thrilled about the cluster work but all in all if it is solid work with them on the price.

GTSideSwipe · 01-11-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933

Why are there no marker lamps on the bed? With that being said, the paint color change was taken seriously and they did a real good job of it. That is the explaination of the ign plate above the switch they broke it or lost it during the paintjob. not real thrilled about the cluster work but all in all if it is solid work with them on the price.

Never noticed that.. must have been wrecked possibly?

70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 08:09 PM

Missing marker lights and front grill painted making me doubt the low mileage claim.

djeCST · 01-11-2016, 08:25 PM

Like Stocker said, the SPID is pretty chewed up for such an allegedly low-miles truck. Maybe $10K is a bit much, but it would be at least that much to bring a lesser truck to that level. The value is in the eye of the beholder, IMO.

70chevytruck · 01-11-2016, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by djeCST

Like Stocker said, the SPID is pretty chewed up for such an allegedly low-miles truck. Maybe $10K is a bit much, but it would be at least that much to bring a lesser truck to that level. The value is in the eye of the beholder, IMO.

Correct....but for 10k there are better trucks out there.....auto, loaded, original.

Like this one....

zeldman · 01-11-2016, 08:39 PM

Too bad it was painted. It would be worth the price if it was an original survivor.

Look at the numbers on the odometer. GM wasn't stupid. If it is over 100k the numbers will not all be in a straight line. Under 100K and the numbers will be straight across unless the tenths (last) number is a 9 and it is rolling the next number(s) over.

Good catch on the missing marker lights. I totally missed that.

Under the hood. If it has been sitting a long time then the original thermostat housing, made of cast aluminum will corrode out. The rubber fuel line will be rotted out as well as the coolant hoses.

As someone else mentioned, look at the pedals. At 19,000 miles there should be no wear. Usually the clutch pedal will show wear on the left side of the pedal and the brake will show wear on the right side.

Last speedometer I rebuilt had a needle that looked just like that one in the picture.

But it is hard to tell with pictures.

Acorn · 01-11-2016, 08:42 PM

May just be how I'm looking at picks but, the bed looks like a '67. (No curves on the front side of wheel well) I'd beck for frame damage.

davepl · 01-11-2016, 09:12 PM

For $10K someone buy that green one!

Whatever happened in the 5% of the time the 100-year-old-man didn't own it seems to have been done by a teenager.

You can't be a little pregnant and you can't be a virgin "except for the two guys before me". I don't think this counts as an original truck, being repainted and recovered, and what's left isn't so minty that you should overlook it.

Still likely a good starting point but I think $10K is a price for a survivor of that quality, not one someone has monkeyed with...

**72 tigger** · 01-11-2016, 09:46 PM

Don't know about the mileage but it's sure not "unmolested" (looks like S-10 hubcaps). For 10K you could find something much more original- in my opinion

**Joesjunk** · 01-11-2016, 10:01 PM

Just my opinion, but $10k sounds very high to me. Keep looking, you can find a much better truck for that kind of money

midniteblues · 01-11-2016, 10:02 PM

not a bad looking truck. certainly would be a nice start.and i wouldnt mind driving it as it is very clean looking.
i dont like seeing blackend firewalls and what happened to the plastic firewall gutter?

i cant see the engine looking like it does with only 19k on it.
painted latches and striker plates?
good call on the bed and the spid.

with the needles being painted im sure someone was playin with the numbers.

01-11-2016, 06:00 PM	#1
70chevytruck Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 865	Let's Play a Game Here is the deal....repainted, new seat cover....belonged to a man who has owned it for 95% of its life...he just died at 100 years of age. He had it painted and the seat recovered about 7 years ago...originally an ochre truck. Family trying to sell truck. Supposedly 19,000 mile original truck.. I am seriously considering buying this truck....$10K. Lets play the game of "that isn't an original mileage truck and here's why.." Attached Images __________________ 70chevytruck

01-11-2016, 06:06 PM	#2
70chevytruck Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 865	Re: Let's Play a Game Some more pics.....And as of right now they have no proof of the mileage other than the in laws word that the truck sat in the same garage for 20 years and hasn't been registered since '08. He apparently drove it sporatically over the years. Attached Images __________________ 70chevytruck Last edited by 70chevytruck; 01-11-2016 at 06:11 PM. Reason: add pictures

01-11-2016, 06:11 PM	#3
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,058	Re: Let's Play a Game I doubt it. Plastic fuel filter, chrome water neck, why would those be added onto such a low mile truck? Still looks like a nice truck though. Believe what you want, there's no proof either way, just speculation. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

01-11-2016, 06:21 PM	#4
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,873	Re: Let's Play a Game how worn are the foot pedal rubbers? __________________ 1967custom

01-11-2016, 06:29 PM	#6
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,896	Re: Let's Play a Game - Dash bezel's been painted. Firewall has been painted. Missing the ignition switch plate. Steering wheel wouldn't be that bad on a low mile truck that has been stored inside. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

01-11-2016, 06:33 PM	#7
68 CRACKERBOX Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MYAKKA CITY fla. Posts: 408	Re: Let's Play a Game it's been repainted(good job) seat recovered, been setting 20 years. 19,000 or 119000 don't really make much diff. it is not a original anyway. I would think on it best day it wouldn't be a 4000 to 5000 truck.also there could be alot hiding under that new paint. I think it would have been worth more if they had left it alone. __________________ short bed are just cars without trunk lids trucks have long beds real trucks are longhorn 72 gmc 2500 longhorn 68 chevy c-30 50th anniv. 9ft step side 68 gmc crackerbox 8v71 detroit 72 gmc astro95 8v71 detroit

01-11-2016, 06:38 PM	#10
70chevytruck Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 865	Re: Let's Play a Game Truck is a Texas truck so I can justify the wheel being cracked. The brake and clutch pedals look like they should. The truck was color changed from ochre to this yellow color. The water neck and the fuel filter have been changed and I can understand that if they went to Pep boys or somewhere. I am thinking I will have to drive 4 1/2 hours Saturday to lay eyes on it....Texas is a big place. If there is no rust and the underside is immaculate then I could believe the mileage claim. Would also check out the tires and see what the manufacture date is on them...they have lots of tread. If they are 20 years old then I could see it being original mileage. __________________ 70chevytruck

01-11-2016, 06:51 PM	#11
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,896	Re: Let's Play a Game - The next time you go look at it take a good strong light and a piece of cardboard big enough to lay on and check the body mounts and inner rockers out. Even though it is not all original it looks like a nice truck. The condition of the bed tells me that it had a pretty easy life. Its pretty easy to tell if it has had any major body work done to it. If it drives nice and the engine sounds good they are not too far off on the price, maybe 2k high but you couldn't buy a $3,000 driver and make it look like that for that kind of money unless you could do ALL of the work yourself.... Just my 2¢ worth. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

01-11-2016, 06:52 PM	#12
NoNeck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,108	Re: Let's Play a Game It might be just the photos... but the speedo and gas needles look too red to be original. The factory needles were more of a Tennessee orange. Why would those need to be painted with only 19K? I don't know, but if you have some restoration anywhere around the speedometer that would bother me. Is the grille painted black or is that just the photo? Is the front bumper painted silver or is that just the photo? POP __________________ 2016 RAM Laramie HEMI 1966 Fairlane GT/A, 390/335 HP If it costs you a dollar to make a friend, KEEP THE DOLLAR. If it costs you a friend to make a dollar, KEEP THE FRIEND.

01-11-2016, 06:56 PM	#13
NoNeck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,108	Re: Let's Play a Game Would an Ochre truck have a black interior (steering column, door panels, etc.? Just asking... POP __________________ 2016 RAM Laramie HEMI 1966 Fairlane GT/A, 390/335 HP If it costs you a dollar to make a friend, KEEP THE DOLLAR. If it costs you a friend to make a dollar, KEEP THE FRIEND.

01-11-2016, 07:18 PM	#15
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: Let's Play a Game Why are there no marker lamps on the bed? With that being said, the paint color change was taken seriously and they did a real good job of it. That is the explaination of the ign plate above the switch they broke it or lost it during the paintjob. not real thrilled about the cluster work but all in all if it is solid work with them on the price.

01-11-2016, 08:09 PM	#17
70chevytruck Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 865	Re: Let's Play a Game Missing marker lights and front grill painted making me doubt the low mileage claim. __________________ 70chevytruck

01-11-2016, 08:25 PM	#18
djeCST Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 68	Re: Let's Play a Game Like Stocker said, the SPID is pretty chewed up for such an allegedly low-miles truck. Maybe $10K is a bit much, but it would be at least that much to bring a lesser truck to that level. The value is in the eye of the beholder, IMO. __________________ Dennis '70 CST/10 '55 Bel Air wagon

01-11-2016, 08:39 PM	#20
zeldman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Rt 66 Gallup, NM Posts: 527	Re: Let's Play a Game Too bad it was painted. It would be worth the price if it was an original survivor. Look at the numbers on the odometer. GM wasn't stupid. If it is over 100k the numbers will not all be in a straight line. Under 100K and the numbers will be straight across unless the tenths (last) number is a 9 and it is rolling the next number(s) over. Good catch on the missing marker lights. I totally missed that. Under the hood. If it has been sitting a long time then the original thermostat housing, made of cast aluminum will corrode out. The rubber fuel line will be rotted out as well as the coolant hoses. As someone else mentioned, look at the pedals. At 19,000 miles there should be no wear. Usually the clutch pedal will show wear on the left side of the pedal and the brake will show wear on the right side. Last speedometer I rebuilt had a needle that looked just like that one in the picture. But it is hard to tell with pictures. __________________ 2005 GMC K2500HD D/A 1993 GMC K1500 2011 Subaru Legacy. 2013 Subaru Outback 1970 C-10 2WD, SWB stepside, 292, TH350, PS, more rust than anything. God is my pilot.

01-11-2016, 08:42 PM	#21
Acorn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Winnsboro Texas Posts: 367	Re: Let's Play a Game May just be how I'm looking at picks but, the bed looks like a '67. (No curves on the front side of wheel well) I'd beck for frame damage. __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of a low price is forgotten.



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01-11-2016, 09:12 PM	#22
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,334	Re: Let's Play a Game For $10K someone buy that green one! Whatever happened in the 5% of the time the 100-year-old-man didn't own it seems to have been done by a teenager. You can't be a little pregnant and you can't be a virgin "except for the two guys before me". I don't think this counts as an original truck, being repainted and recovered, and what's left isn't so minty that you should overlook it. Still likely a good starting point but I think $10K is a price for a survivor of that quality, not one someone has monkeyed with... __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

01-11-2016, 09:46 PM	#23
72 tigger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Berne IN Posts: 3,268	Re: Let's Play a Game Don't know about the mileage but it's sure not "unmolested" (looks like S-10 hubcaps). For 10K you could find something much more original- in my opinion

01-11-2016, 10:01 PM	#24
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,715	Re: Let's Play a Game Just my opinion, but $10k sounds very high to me. Keep looking, you can find a much better truck for that kind of money __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-11-2016, 10:02 PM	#25
midniteblues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: strausstown pa Posts: 3,394	Re: Let's Play a Game not a bad looking truck. certainly would be a nice start.and i wouldnt mind driving it as it is very clean looking. i dont like seeing blackend firewalls and what happened to the plastic firewall gutter? i cant see the engine looking like it does with only 19k on it. painted latches and striker plates? good call on the bed and the spid. with the needles being painted im sure someone was playin with the numbers. __________________ 81 camaro 355 4/spd 342 posi my first love. 67 swb step 454/4spd ott 373 posi 4/7 drop. 2000 s10 zr2 little blue truck that never gets stuck. '74 heald super bronc vt8. tecumseh powered moon rover.

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