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Old 04-05-2016, 03:14 PM   #1
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Wiper Motor Nightmare - HELLLP!!! - '55 3100 2nd Series

I am in dire need of some help. Unbelievably, it appears that a PO has cut out the mounting for my wiper motor and replaced it with an unknown mount (and he/she did a really nice job too!):

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If someone has a picture of a '55 3100 2nd series wiper mounting area I could sure use a look at it. If someone recognizes this "new and improved" mounting scheme I could use that piece of info too.

Also shown here is the bracket I have and the motor I have. Are these '55 parts?

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Also, if someone has a donor truck and wants to sell me this motor mounting area, I'm probably going to be in the market after I figure out what's really going on.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:49 PM   #2
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Re: Wiper Motor Nightmare - HELLLP!!! - '55 3100 2nd Series

Here is the motor in my 59. It came out of a 58/59 GMC. Motor looks the same as the one you show. Here is also a photo of the stock bracket, it is factory welded in. Maybe in 55-57 it was bolted??
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:52 PM   #3
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Re: Wiper Motor Nightmare - HELLLP!!! - '55 3100 2nd Series

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Here is the motor in my 59. It came out of a 58/59 GMC. Motor looks the same as the one you show. Here is also a photo of the stock bracket, it is factory welded in. Maybe in 55-57 it was bolted??
Well Orrie, I owe you an adult beverage. You've given me a great start toward solving my problem. I now know that the bracket in my picture doesn't go with my truck, and that I have a motor that is close to correct, if not exact. (I bought the motor from a friend of mine, and I think it was from a '56.)

I compounded my problem by cutting out most of what you call the "factory support". I did that to make room for my center channel speakers. When I did that I thought the brace was just there for dash support, so I cut most of it out. I thought the captive nuts in it were to support the radio (which I am mounting in the headliner area). I didn't think about the wiper motor because the other two brackets were there, as shown in my picture. I mean, how many brackets do you need to mount a stinkin' motor? (Apparently one more than I have...)

When I cut the support out I did leave one captive nut, so I can see where the motor needs to be located, left to right. Unfortunately, if I install the motor in its original position the arms will hit my speakers. I'll have to drop the motor down a little over inch, but that shouldn't be the end of the world. At worst I'll have to lengthen the arms a little bit.

Thanks again, Orrie! If anyone else has any input, I'm interested.
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:23 PM   #4
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Re: Wiper Motor Nightmare - HELLLP!!! - '55 3100 2nd Series

dropping the window motor 1 inch will require you to re-engineer the wiper linkage. This may cause some performance issues with the operation of your wipers. I would vote to move the speaker as opposed to modifying the wiper set up.

Hey, you asked for input. :-P
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"Customize" it.... just so the next owners have something to talk about!
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dropping the window motor 1 inch will require you to re-engineer the wiper linkage. This may cause some performance issues with the operation of your wipers. I would vote to move the speaker as opposed to modifying the wiper set up.

Hey, you asked for input. :-P
Thanks Divine, but the longer I do this stuff the luckier I get. I made a 1-1/4" riser and a strap today, put it together, plugged it in and turned it on. Everything is factory-perfect and it clears the speakers by an 1/8". I'm just lucky that this thing ain't no swiss watch. Orrie will never know how perfect his pictures were -- or maybe he already does! I'll try to post some pics of the riser and bracket in the next few days.
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"Customize" it.... just so the next owners have something to talk about!
Amen, ptc...amen!
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Re: Wiper Motor Nightmare - HELLLP!!! - '55 3100 2nd Series

Here are the details on the fix. Here's the riser, mounted to the wiper motor (or should I call it the "lowerer"?). Note that it has a through hole and a pin.

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The riser bolts into the one factory threaded hole that remains, and the pin goes into the locating hole to keep the assembly from spinning.

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I tried to take pictures similar to Orrie G's, so here they are:

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When running, the passenger arm is closest to hitting, and misses the speaker by an 1/8". Now, back to the body work...
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Nice fix. Before I found a stock motor in the 80's I made a bracket to use a 62 truck wiper motor and modified the arms (length) to make it work. No pics of that.
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Nice fix. Before I found a stock motor in the 80's I made a bracket to use a 62 truck wiper motor and modified the arms (length) to make it work. No pics of that.
I guess that makes you the guru of wiper motors, Orrie!

BTW, apologies to all due to this being a redundant post. This topic is also covered in my build thread. I had put it there first, then realized it wouldn't get the responses it gets here. Why would anyone want to see my other mistakes?
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