passenger car 4 speed in a 456

[jonzcustomshop]

What is involved in putting a passenger car 4 speed (muncie, or borg warner) in a 65 chevy truck.
The truck currently has the original 4 speed.
My main questions? drive shaft? crossmember? and shifter? ( I would like to keep the bench seat.)
Have any of you done this?

[PrerunnerRob]

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

What is involved in putting a passenger car 4 speed (muncie, or borg warner) in a 65 chevy truck.
The truck currently has the original 4 speed.
My main questions? drive shaft? crossmember? and shifter? ( I would like to keep the bench seat.)
Have any of you done this?

I had one in my truck when I bought it, and my truck had some nasty buckets in it. I dont think the bench will work with it, but I can't be sure since mine was lacking a bench. The driveline was a one piece, the tranny just hung off of the motor, no tailshaft mount. All of the clutch linkage was mechanical, and worked good.

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by PrerunnerRob

I had one in my truck when I bought it, and my truck had some nasty buckets in it. I dont think the bench will work with it, but I can't be sure since mine was lacking a bench. The driveline was a one piece, the tranny just hung off of the motor, no tailshaft mount. All of the clutch linkage was mechanical, and worked good.

I was planning to do this on my truck (if I dont go the 700R4 route).

I too am planning to keep the bench seat...It is possible to do.

A new shifter mount, with some linkages will need fabbed up to position the shifter in the correct spot.

Definately do-able, for sure.

[jonzcustomshop]

rob- was your truck a long fleet? and did they leave the crossmember that supports the carrier bearing?
I have a bench seat 4 speed shifter for a 55 chev, I just don't know if it will reach.

[Kurt L]

hurst has a 4spd comp plus shifter for our trucks.i have one for my 70 that i'm working on.it was bout $260.00 but that bout 4yrs ago,the shifter it self is bent for bench seats.

[Greg63]

I have the M-21 Muncie in my '63.
I used the Hurst shifter with the stick made for our trucks (the handle curls out and around the shape of the bench).
Also, the trans itself can be used with the stock one piece driveshaft, but I needed a different yolk than the original - fine spline on the Muncie and coarse on the 3 spd.
Greg

[Imperial Kustom]

When I was running a four speed, I used a Hurst competition plus shifter with a curved Hurst handle flipped backwards. My buddy is doing the same thing in his '63. Works good but the shifter is against the seat in second and fourth. Not enough for either of us to complain. The driveline needs to be shortened and fitted with a TH350 yoke for Muncie and T-10, or a TH400 yoke for a super T-10. A simple tube or angle crossmember bolted to the framerails works great and is easy to build.

[PrerunnerRob]

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

rob- was your truck a long fleet? and did they leave the crossmember that supports the carrier bearing?
I have a bench seat 4 speed shifter for a 55 chev, I just don't know if it will reach.

Yep, long fleetside. There was no carrier bearing, the driveshaft passed through the crossmember.

[Gene Sharp]

drove a 66 Chevy PU for years with a Muncie 4 spd
I used the origional clutch housing
and a hurst shifter for a pickup
one froma 57 chevy car will also do it with a little bend and just any good drive shaft shop can make youa new shaft
or take one from a stand shift car along and getit shortened or lenghtened
it will all clear bench seat fine

Gene Sharp