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sweatmachine · 12-07-2008, 11:19 PM

ok, I replaced the p/s pump today and found out that wasn't the problem!

There is a loose big metal ring around the main pulley area under the water pump. I'm not sure what it is, but it's a big metal ring that is loose, sitting on the pulley. Harmonic balancer ring?

I just bought a haynes manual but I'm not seeing it in the book.

It's sitting on the pulley and bouncing around loose when the truck is running, like a hoola hoop. What is it?!? I'll get a pic in the am when it's light out.

67arch · 12-08-2008, 12:19 AM

Harmonic balancer

joe231 · 12-08-2008, 12:44 AM

yeah, balancer
i wouldn't run the engine until it is fixed, could cause some major problems...

SCOTI · 12-08-2008, 08:22 AM

Yep.... Sounds like it tossed the harmonic balancer ring (it's steel held in place w/the molded rubber). Do not run the engine until getting this repaired. It's a common problem on high milage OE balancers. Pull it off & install a new one (new, not a different used one).

sweatmachine · 12-08-2008, 11:12 AM

thanks guys, back to the auto parts store!!!

Nolowrider · 12-08-2008, 11:59 AM

Replacing the harmonic balancer requires alittle effort. Not a hard job, but you have to remove a few things to get to it. Fan assy, probaly the water pump, crank pulley and space will be limited. But I am sure you can do it, just take your time. I suggest, while you are down there, go ahead and throw a new timing chain on her. With that many miles I am sure she would bennifit from a new chain. Oh yea, you are going to need a harmonic balancer puller to get the old one off. Most auto parts store will rent or loan you one. Good luck.

sweatmachine · 12-08-2008, 03:04 PM

I'm pretty sure my uncle replaced the timing chain. It has a new cam in it and I think he put a new chain in with the new cam, but I'll check to be sure.

thanks again guys!

MylilBowTie · 12-08-2008, 08:47 PM

Dont forget about the balancer installion tool. Dont beat the balancer on!

sweatmachine · 02-07-2009, 03:56 AM

hey guys, I wanted to update this post, it ended up being the harmonic balancer, but I replaced both the balancer and the power steering pump. Now she runs smooth as glass!

sweatmachine · 02-07-2009, 04:00 AM

btw, the Haynes manual is a giant piece of ****. Worthless.

Ds86C10 · 02-07-2009, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweatmachine

btw, the Haynes manual is a giant piece of ****. Worthless.

yup

MylilBowTie · 02-07-2009, 03:30 PM

They make good coloring books.

60ratrod · 02-07-2009, 04:08 PM

i only use mine for torque specs and when i can't remember the firing order.

Skirkpat · 02-07-2009, 11:44 PM

buy a Chiltons, Haynes suck,

lvschevytrucks · 02-08-2009, 12:06 AM

I thought I was the only one who hated haynes, nice to know Im not alone

heavychevy79 · 02-08-2009, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvschevytrucks

I thought I was the only one who hated haynes, nice to know Im not alone

Nobody likes Haynes.
People buy em cause they are cheap and at autozone.
The one I got with my Volvo does seem pretty complete, I built a new ignition harness with it, but in general haynes manuals are for basic repairs, and I don't need a manual for basic repairs.
Napa has Chilton, and maybe pep boys?

The dampner must have been pretty wasted to make all of that noise.

sweatmachine · 02-08-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavychevy79

The dampner must have been pretty wasted to make all of that noise.

oh it was. The rubber part deteriorated to the point where the outer ring came off and was spinning around the inner part. I saved all the pieces.

12-07-2008, 11:19 PM	#26
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: I think she the bed.... ok, I replaced the p/s pump today and found out that wasn't the problem! There is a loose big metal ring around the main pulley area under the water pump. I'm not sure what it is, but it's a big metal ring that is loose, sitting on the pulley. Harmonic balancer ring? I just bought a haynes manual but I'm not seeing it in the book. It's sitting on the pulley and bouncing around loose when the truck is running, like a hoola hoop. What is it?!? I'll get a pic in the am when it's light out. Last edited by sweatmachine; 12-07-2008 at 11:19 PM.

12-08-2008, 12:19 AM	#27
67arch WTB:Patience and Talent Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 119	Re: I think she the bed.... Harmonic balancer Attached Images __________________ 69 shortwide

12-08-2008, 12:44 AM	#28
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12-08-2008, 08:22 AM	#29
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: I think she the bed.... Yep.... Sounds like it tossed the harmonic balancer ring (it's steel held in place w/the molded rubber). Do not run the engine until getting this repaired. It's a common problem on high milage OE balancers. Pull it off & install a new one (new, not a different used one). __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.* Last edited by SCOTI; 12-08-2008 at 08:23 AM.

12-08-2008, 11:12 AM	#30
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: I think she the bed.... thanks guys, back to the auto parts store!!!

12-08-2008, 11:59 AM	#31
Nolowrider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,365	Re: I think she the bed.... Replacing the harmonic balancer requires alittle effort. Not a hard job, but you have to remove a few things to get to it. Fan assy, probaly the water pump, crank pulley and space will be limited. But I am sure you can do it, just take your time. I suggest, while you are down there, go ahead and throw a new timing chain on her. With that many miles I am sure she would bennifit from a new chain. Oh yea, you are going to need a harmonic balancer puller to get the old one off. Most auto parts store will rent or loan you one. Good luck.

12-08-2008, 03:04 PM	#32
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: I think she the bed.... I'm pretty sure my uncle replaced the timing chain. It has a new cam in it and I think he put a new chain in with the new cam, but I'll check to be sure. thanks again guys!

12-08-2008, 08:47 PM	#33
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	Re: I think she the bed.... Dont forget about the balancer installion tool. Dont beat the balancer on! __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI

02-07-2009, 03:56 AM	#34
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: I think she the bed.... hey guys, I wanted to update this post, it ended up being the harmonic balancer, but I replaced both the balancer and the power steering pump. Now she runs smooth as glass! Last edited by N2TRUX; 02-07-2009 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Only subscribing member may post items for sale!

02-07-2009, 04:00 AM	#35
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: I think she the bed.... btw, the Haynes manual is a giant piece of ****. Worthless.

02-07-2009, 03:30 PM	#37
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	Re: I think she the bed.... They make good coloring books. __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI

02-07-2009, 04:08 PM	#38
60ratrod yes, i do Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spokane, wa Posts: 2,734	Re: I think she the bed.... i only use mine for torque specs and when i can't remember the firing order.

02-07-2009, 11:44 PM	#39
Skirkpat Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: K.C. Missouri Posts: 1,024	Re: I think she the bed.... buy a Chiltons, Haynes suck,

02-08-2009, 12:06 AM	#40
lvschevytrucks Unfinished Project Club Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florence S.C. Posts: 596	Re: I think she the bed.... I thought I was the only one who hated haynes, nice to know Im not alone __________________ Handle every Stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or play with it, Pee on it and walk away. 1996 Dodge Intreped ES Nice car great on gas 1993 Jeep Cherokee. Looking for a swb chevy 73-87 Last edited by lvschevytrucks; 02-08-2009 at 12:07 AM.

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