What enging do you want in your truck?

[joeys66pickup]

no no im talking Procharged Ls7 crate into a redone vette that had rearended a tahoe... had the front clip replaced and the crater bolted in an yes i know it wasent even close to being "maxed out" what ever really is? went along and did its business with a High 9' (9.85 i believe) Car sounded amazing and i think he could have rung alittle more out of it but not sure-
Now turn to the little pink camaro, running a 9.62 first pass of the night! no blower,turbos or nothing. i think he said a solid roller and about a 200 shot? i know it was geared better for a fact but still it was like nothin else! the worst 60ft i have ever seen to seriously like a warmup in the water box but still out ran that vette

ls7 big block? i thought 454's were LS6's back in the day an a LS7 was a strictly new vette powerplant??

[sweet70beast]

I don't think they put LS7s into production cars but you could get them over the counter. If it wasn't for the gas crunch, insurence hikes, and smog junk of the earily 70's I'm sure they would have put them in cars.

Here's a link
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/archiv...p/t-42337.html

[Northern lights]

Me thinkst we are taking about two different animals. Yes, the LS6 came out in the '70 Chevelle but, as sweet70beast suggested, the LS7 was an over the counter GM crate engine that was never offered in a production car. Don't think you'll see too many with blowers as they came from the General with 12.5:1 pistons. A buddy of mine ran one in his '67 camero back in the '80's. They were VERY expensive, something like $4000 IIRC back when you could buy a new chevy pickup loaded for about $13000.

[code4]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

can someone give me a short list on these LSX engines..like what they came in......and would my old headers fit...I'm sure the intake wouldn't but what about the edlebrock carb I have.....I would love more power and could do the EFI and harness but a carb would be bolt and go..

These engines are awsome. They have 6 bolt mains & the heads flow very well from the factory. I drive my 9 second camaro for real. I drive it to work, take road trips across the coutry etc. The engine has not broken yet. Now the transmission has blown 4 times but I think the new one is going to hole (hopefully)

Simply put, the true LSx engine is an aluminum block
The iron blocks are truck engines, but just as capable. Weight difference is only 65lbs
Truck engines short blocks are esentially the same with small differences like:
~Serpentine system (vette's accy's closest, then F-body's, then Trucks stick out far)
~Intake manifolds (trucks' tallest)
~Exhaust manifolds (each application is different, TONS of them out there)
~Sensors. (several differences. With the right harness, and PCM, makes the swap job simple




The engines come in sizes:
4.8L
5.3L
5.7L
6.0L
6.2L (cadillac only)
Vortec 4800, 5300, 5700, 6000, 6200
Names: LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6, LS7, LQ4, LQ9, etc


TRUE LS1:
1997-current Chevy5.7L, 6.0L, 7.0L
Corvette

1998-2004 Chevy/Pontiac5.7L
Camaro
Trans Am

2004-2009 Cadillac 6.0L
CTS-v


Iron LSx engines (still just as good)
1999-current Chevy: 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0L
Silverado 1500, 2500, 3500
Avalanche
Suburban
Tahoe
Express Van
SSR

1999- Current CadilLac5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.2L
Escalade (99-current)
CTS-V (04-09)

1999-current GMC4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0L
Envoy
Suburban
Yukon
Savana Van



2003-current Hummer5.3L, 6.0L
H2

2006-current Hummer5.3L
H3



Gen 4 engines4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0L

2005-2006 Pontiac GTO
2006-2007 Cadillac CTS-V
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette
2005-2006 Chevrolet SSR
2006-2009 Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
2005-2007 Holden Special Vehicles (all V8 models)
2008-2009 Saab 9-7X Aero
2005-2006 Vauxhall Monaro VXR


There are a few Front wheel drive vehicles with LSx engines, but they don't swap easy, and the block castings are different.
Such as:
Impala, Monte Carlo, Buick Lacrosse, and the Grand Prix


Truck motors come in aluminum as well, note L33, L92, L76 amoung a few.

LSx is generic for Gen III/IV motors. So fake LSx is a misnomer. Vortec is much better term for the truck motors.



RPO codes
GENERATION III
LS1 - 5.7 (346 CI) - Between 305-350 hp and 335-375 ft·lb
1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette C5, excluding Z06
1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28, SS
1998-2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula, Trans Am, Trans Am WS6
2004 Pontiac GTO
*97-98 Had Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers
LS6 - 5.7 (346 CI) - 385(01 Vette only)/405 hp and 385(01 only)/400 ft-lbs.
2001-2004 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06
2004-2005 Cadillac CTS V-Series
*Basically the same as an LS1 but with better heads (243 head castings) a more aggressive cam, and LS6 intake manifold make up the power differences.

TRUCK ENGINES - STILL GENERATION III
The truck engines are very much like the LS1/LS6 and are still classified as a Gen III engine. They are mainly iron with the exception of the LM4/L33, and as a result weigh approximately 80+ lbs. more. All the parts from the LS series can bolt on to these engines and is recommended for any swap as the accessories and intake manifold usually fit better from an F-body. The 4.8 and 5.3 can both be punched out to a 5.7 (346 Cubic Inches) simply with a bigger bore (the 5.3) or a bigger bore and the 5.3 crank (in the 4.8's case).
4.8 - LR4
5.3 - LM4, LM7, L33, L59
6.0 - LQ4, LQ9
LR4 - 270-295 hp and 285-305 ft·lb
*Iron Block
2003-present Chevrolet Express 2500-3500/GMC Savana 2500-3500
1999-2007 Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra
1999-2006 Chevrolet Tahoe/GMC Yukon
LM7 - 285-295 hp 325-335 ft·lb
*Most common 3rd gen LSx engine - Iron Block
2002-2005 Cadillac Escalade 2WD
2002-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche
2003-2007 Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana
1999-2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
1999-2007 GMC Sierra 1500
1999-2006 Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL
1999-2006 Chevrolet Tahoe/GMC Yukon
LM4 - Identical to the LM7 in power/torque
*Aluminum Block, limited production
2004 Chevrolet TrailBlazer EXT
2004 GMC Envoy XL
2004 Chevrolet SSR
L33 - 310 hp - High Output version of the LM7
*Aluminum Block
2005-2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
2005-2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD
L59 - Flex Fuel version of the LM7 (power/torque same)
2002-2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
2002-2006 Chevrolet Tahoe/GMC Yukon
2002-2006 Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL
2002-2007 GMC Sierra 1500
LQ4 - 6.0L (364 CI) - 300-325 hp / 360-370 ft·lb
*Iron Block
Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana
Chevrolet Silverado 2500 Pickup, 3500 Pickup, Crew Cab, and Chassis Cab/GMC Sierra 2500 HD Pickup and Crew Cab, C3, Denali, and 3500 Pickup and Chassis Cab, 1500HD Crew Cab
Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL Denali
Hummer H2 SUT
GMC Yukon Denali
LQ9 - 6.0L (364 CI) - 345hp / 380 ft·lb
*Iron Block
2002-2006 Cadillac Escalade
2002-2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT
2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade ESV
2003-2007 Chevrolet Silverado SS
2004-2005 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra Vortec HO Edition Only 2006-2007 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra VortecMAX Option

GENERATION IV - Generation IV engines are very similar to Gen III and most parts can be interchanged. The Gen IV was produced with displacement on demand and variable valve timing in mind. Not all have these features, but they are available. Also they have a 58x crank trigger, front cam sensor, and side mounted Knock sensors.
L76 - 360hp /385 ft-lbs. 6.0L (364 Cubic Inches)
2008 Pontiac G8
L98 - 362hp /391 ft-lbs. 6.0L (364 Cubic Inches)
2007-2008 Chevrolet Lumina SS
2007-2008 Chevrolet Caprice SS
L99 - 400hp /395 ft-lbs. 6.0L (364 Cubic Inches)
*Derived from the LS3 and with Displacement on Demand
2010 Chevrolet Camaro
LS2 - 6.0L (364 CI) - 400 hp/400 ft.-lbs.
2006-2007 Cadillac CTS-V
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette
2005-2006 Chevrolet SSR
2006-2008 Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
2004-2007 Holden Special Vehicles (all V8 models)
2005-2006 Pontiac GTO
2008-2010? Saab 9-7X Aero
2005-2006 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
LS3 - 6.2L (376 CI) - 430 hp / 424 ft.-lbs.
April 2008-present Holden Special Vehicles (all V8 models)
2008-present Chevrolet Corvette
2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
2010 Chevrolet Camaro
LS4 - 5.3L (325 CI) - 303 hp / 323 ft.-lbs.
2006-2008 Chevrolet Impala SS
2006-2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
2005-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
2008 Buick LaCrosse Super
*Aluminum FWD Block w/ LS6 Heads
LS7 - 7.0L (427 CI) - 505 hp / 470 ft.-lbs.
2006-2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2008 HSV W427
LS9 - 6.2L (376 CI) Supercharged - 638 hp / 604 ft.-lbs.
*Based on the LS3
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1

TRUCK ENGINES - GENERATION IV
LY2- 4.8 2007-present Silverado/Sierra, Express/Savana , Tahoe/Yukon
LMG- 5.3 (Iron block/AFM/FF) 2007-present Silverado
LH6- 5.3 (Alum block/AFM) 2005-present TB/Envoy, 2007-present Silverado
LC9- 5.3 (Iron block/AFM/FF) 2007-present Silverado
LY5- 5.3 (Alum block/AFM/FF) 2007-present Silverado
LH8- 5.3 (Alum block) H3 Alpha, Colorado/Canyon
LY6 - 6.0 (364 CI) - Same as LQ4, but Gen IV.
*Variable Valve Timing
2007-present Chevrolet Silverado HD
2007-present GMC Sierra HD
2007-present Chevrolet Suburban 3/4 ton
2007-present GMC Yukon XL 3/4 ton
L76 - 6.0 (364 CI) - 367hp / 375 ft.-lbs.
*Basically the Gen IV replacement for the LQ9
*Variable Cam Phasing & Active Fuel Management
2007-present Chevrolet Suburban
2007-present Chevrolet Avalanche
2007-present Chevrolet Silverado
2007-present GMC Sierra
2007-present GMC Yukon XL
LFA - 6.0 (364 CI) - 332 hp / 367 ft.-lbs.
*Active Fuel Management
*Late-intake valve timing system
*Higher 10.8:1 compression ratio
2008-present Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid
2008-present GMC Yukon Hybrid
2009-present Cadillac Escalade Hybrid
2009-present Chevrolet Silverado Hybrid
2009-present GMC Sierra Hybrid
L92 - 6.2L (376 CI) - 380/403 hp and 403/415 ft.-lbs.
2007-08 Cadillac Escalade
2008 Chevrolet Tahoe
2007-08 GMC Sierra Denali
2008 Hummer H2
2007-09 GMC Yukon Denali/Denali XL
L9H- 6.2L (376 CI)
2009 Cadillac Escalade
2009 GMC Sierra Denali
2009 Hummer H2
2009 GMC Yukon Denali/Denali XL
2009 Silverado LTZ, Tahoe LTZ

[blackdiesel]

you say the 5.3 can be a LM4, LM7, L33, or a L59. how can you tell which is which? i'd like to know what i got ahold of

[code4]

Originally Posted by blackdiesel

you say the 5.3 can be a LM4, LM7, L33, or a L59. how can you tell which is which? i'd like to know what i got ahold of

the most obvious would be the aluminum block. I have not found an aluminum block yet, the most common are the early 5.3's just because of age etc.

The nice thing about the steel 5.3's is you can bore them to 5.7 ci. This is what i did on my last 5.3 I built.

[joeys66pickup]

see now i know what ls7 your Talking about... the one i was speaking of is the new 427ci out of the vette!! if i knew we were talking big block i would have changed my Really quick, no way a properly built big block is loosing to vortec 6.0 aint happening anytime soon

[sweet70beast]

Here is an excelent article on the difference between the LS engines. It's long but well worth the reading.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...son/index.html

[no moa]

LT1/4l60e out of a 9c1 police car, because i have 6 of them.

[Atomsplitter]

1995 Impala SS LT1
Complete motor, wiring harness, computer, manifolds, rad. fans, motor mounts, etc. for $500.

[UltraBlue71]

Keith Black Hemi for me, I wonder what a gallon of Nitro-methane runs nowadays? 1600+HP

For real I'd love to go down to the GM counter plop my money down and wait a couple weeks for my 502....

[Hottrucks]

thanx for the info
no moa wanna sell one of those???

[UltraBlue71]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

thanx for the info
no moa wanna sell one of those???

Maybe he is the sheriff and those are his squad cars

[Texasdeere]

This one...

I am not much into custom trucks but it is hard for me to not like this one!

YouTube- supercharged inline six

YouTube- supercharged inline six

[Hottrucks]

Originally Posted by UltraBlue71

Maybe he is the sheriff and those are his squad cars

then they should be easy to find..I'll just look in front of the Donut shop

[no moa]

Originally Posted by UltraBlue71

Maybe he is the sheriff and those are his squad cars

no i'm not a sheriff. I'm a caprice and Impala SS guy at heart.

[no moa]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

then they should be easy to find..I'll just look in front of the Donut shop

Dunkin Donuts, i park them all in the parking lot, crime is down 99%.

[Hottrucks]

so wanna part with one of them for my truck??

[cajundragger]

I have a 2001 LS1 out of a corvette with a SSR t-56. Its an animal with the 4.10 gears and simple mods.

If you go lsx, do not, i repeat, DO NOT put a gen IV transmission behind a gen III block. This is what I have and it was nothing but problems.

[T Hilde]

Inline 6, 292. To me a bent motor doesn't look right in an AD.