1965 c10 short wide rebuild

[bigblok77]

hey guys, new to this forum, going to post my build on my c10, first of all, it is all origina metal, almost zero dents/rust (just surface) the bed has a few more dent than anticipated, but I will deal with that later. As for now I want to put a motor and tranny in it, (probably 250 6cyl) because that is in my garage and it runs.. lol as of now I am working on the surface rust problem, it is pretty deep pitted, and I am led to believe that the rust kutter I have will kill the rust in the pits that I cant clean up with a wire wheel or hand brush, and the I will spray a good epoxy primer over that. please advise if I am doing this wrong.
thanks!

[bigblok77]

here are some pics















the last of the pictures I have already gotten the majority of the surface rust off, just trying to burrow into the remainder and kill it...?

[Clyde65]

Very cool. what about a LS install?

I prefer the patina actually.

[63 & 64 Bowties]

Originally Posted by Clyde65

I prefer the patina actually.

Me too. That "was" a beauty. It's a shame ya dug into it.

[bigblok77]

Originally Posted by Clyde65

Very cool. what about a LS install?

I prefer the patina actually.

going to go big block eventually, putting a sixxer in it for now, so i can drive it around.

is patina the surface rust?

[SulphuriousSam]

Originally Posted by bigblok77

going to go big block eventually, putting a sixxer in it for now, so i can drive it around.

is patina the surface rust?

Yup..the patina is your worn, and rusted, paint. I think your truck is the same color as mine. A little more patina on yours but not by much!

[Clyde65]

awww come on man, a 6.0 would really wake that dude up! good luck with whatever you do man, I think it would be great with the 6cyl too!

[bigblok77]

I would really like to put a rack and pinion in it, not sure how or if that would work, I just like the drivability that they have. and also a 4l60e so I will prolly consider a stock 5.3, 5.7, or a 6.0.

as for the patina, I dont like how splochy it was , if the whole truck looked like the bed I would have left it alone for a lil while lol

thanks for the advise guys

[awbrown]

let's see some pics of the inside / dash ... looks like it used to be an a/c truck....

[Captainfab]

Welcome to the forum

I always prefer media blasting to remove the rust, but I realize that is not affordable for everyone. But it is the best way to get rid of rust IMO. Have you tried the CLR and Scotchbrite method? Many guys do that to preserve the 'patina' look. There is a thread or two here somewhere on how to do it.

[bigblok77]

Originally Posted by awbrown

let's see some pics of the inside / dash ... looks like it used to be an a/c truck....

no factory a/c as far as I'm aware, the previous owner added a system but not sure where the inside guts are. and its in pretty bad shape.. I also will need a instrument cluster, I would like to find the one with the 4 needle gauges across the bottom, not sure how rare they are.

[bigblok77]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

Welcome to the forum

I always prefer media blasting to remove the rust, but I realize that is not affordable for everyone. But it is the best way to get rid of rust IMO. Have you tried the CLR and Scotchbrite method? Many guys do that to preserve the 'patina' look. There is a thread or two here somewhere on how to do it.

Will the media blasting get into the deep pits though? thats why I was using an actual rust "killer" so it would penetrate, so I wouldnt have to worry about bleed through years down the road..

Also I didn't know about the CLR trick... good information.

My plan is rebuilding just a clean smooth user-friendly cruiser.

[wc63]

daaaaaaamn! i would have killed for that patina. no new car will ever have that. but oh well. i've heard apple cider vinager works well for removing rust. but think you have to submerge it. otherwise a rough d.a. or flap wheel on a grinder may work. but youll have to bondo to get it smooth.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by bigblok77

I would really like to put a rack and pinion in it, not sure how or if that would work, I just like the drivability that they have.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465423

[bigblok77]

Originally Posted by wc63

daaaaaaamn! i would have killed for that patina. no new car will ever have that. but oh well. i've heard apple cider vinager works well for removing rust. but think you have to submerge it. otherwise a rough d.a. or flap wheel on a grinder may work. but youll have to bondo to get it smooth.

Sorry guys, I'm more of a smooth paint guy, and thanks for the vinegar tip, I may try that on smaller pieces first. As far as smooth I will use a thick epoxy primer with a lot ofcoats, and just block the crap outa it...

Originally Posted by SCOTI

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465423

Thanks for that, I will likely use a different design, and will likely fab it up myself.

[chevyrestoguy]

I like how you did the body, personally. I think it actually preserved the patina and highlighted it even better. To me, (my opinion) rust hides the real patina underneath. I have always believed that the patina is in the paint, not the rust. But then again, I live in the desert of California, and you never see rust out here. Lots of sunburned paint, but hardly any rust. I'd rather see one with the original color peeking out than to see nothing but a coating of rust. Everyone has their own opinion, and I think that's what makes building cars and trucks so fun. If we all built vehicles that all looked alike, this would be one boring hobby.

[bigblok77]

Originally Posted by chevyrestoguy

I like how you did the body, personally. I think it actually preserved the patina and highlighted it even better. To me, (my opinion) rust hides the real patina underneath. I have always believed that the patina is in the paint, not the rust. But then again, I live in the desert of California, and you never see rust out here. Lots of sunburned paint, but hardly any rust. I'd rather see one with the original color peeking out than to see nothing but a coating of rust. Everyone has their own opinion, and I think that's what makes building cars and trucks so fun. If we all built vehicles that all looked alike, this would be one boring hobby.

^^^ can we get an AMEN!

as for the truck, I will fix the cosmetics for now, and worry about most of the body work later (just piddling with the rust every once in awhile)

[Captainfab]

Yes. media blasting with the correct media will remove all of the rust. IMO it is the best way to strip metal down to see exactly what you have to work with. No hidden rust to come back and bite you later on. Media blasting on sheetmetal should be done by someone with experience blasting sheetmetal. Someone that does not have the experience, can quicly ruin an otherwise straight body panel.

Originally Posted by bigblok77

Will the media blasting get into the deep pits though? thats why I was using an actual rust "killer" so it would penetrate, so I wouldnt have to worry about bleed through years down the road..

Also I didn't know about the CLR trick... good information.

My plan is rebuilding just a clean smooth user-friendly cruiser.

[bigblok77]

here it is, it fits, and all the electronics work!









found some holes in the floorboard though...

[bigblok77]

Cleaned up and painted the engine bay this saturday... OMG I want the whole truck to look this clean! lol

[chad64chevy]

truck looks good! i'm not a patina kind of guy either, a ten footer paint job, a primer job looks better then patina to me! but everyone is different and some look good patina, kind of untouched but its just not for me! keep you the good work you'll be driving it soon!

[bigblok77]

I am just progressing really slow, not sure if I will address the body for now, may just drive it as is... (get brakes working, susp. is all new, work on interior.) I just wanna drive this manual steering, manual brake critter around!

[gostranger]

get it running and driving you can always do any of the other work while you can drive it that way it wont sit in the garage and not get done!!!

[Rich 5150 69]

Originally Posted by bigblok77

I am just progressing really slow, not sure if I will address the body for now, may just drive it as is... (get brakes working, susp. is all new, work on interior.) I just wanna drive this manual steering, manual brake critter around!

Do yourself one favor if not anything else is change over to dual master cylinder, I would hate to see a crash when you`ve that far...

[bigblok77]

Well guys I am im the works on a donor truck hopefully have it next week, Its a 1988 1 ton GMC quad cab power locks and windows, 454 2 TBI setup th400, hydroboost setup, tilt column, small cowl hood, all there and all working.

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my plan is to use the th400 and the fuel injected 454, the hydroboost and possibly the steering column, in my old short/wide 65'

here are pics