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Old 02-12-2020, 09:22 PM   #1
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A/C comp control?

So I have had a manual switch inside my 71 4 seasons for a year now to control my compressor. I found out today there is what looks like a potentiometer off of a stove or something under the dash that will kick the compressor on or off. It does have a line coming off of it that senses temperature to control when the compressor kicks on, but I can't believe this is what came stock on the c10, unless there used to be a gear on the knob and the hot / cold slider moved it? If this is stock, what is the part called? Thanks!

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Old 02-12-2020, 09:26 PM   #2
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That was added by somebody at some point.
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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:34 PM   #3
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Re: A/C comp control?

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That was added by somebody at some point.
Thanks man,
If you know can you point me to the right part to replace then? I usually use the diagrams on lmctruck to find out what parts I need/ are called, but I can't find anything but the entire control panel. I guess they didn't make parts for it, it's just one expensive unit lol.
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:38 PM   #4
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Re: A/C comp control?

There is a compressor switch on the factory setup if that's what you're asking. It's on the back side of the AC distribution box which is the first box coming off the heater. Can't be seen from inside but if you feel behind the box you'll find the cable attachment for selection of either air or heat (the middle of the three slides on your control). When the slide is moved to the left it opens the flapper to shut off heated air and open the air from the evaporator. It also has a cam integrated with the cable end that pushes a button on the AC switch. Just changed mine yesterday while putting in a new blower relay.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:06 AM   #5
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There is a compressor switch on the factory setup if that's what you're asking. It's on the back side of the AC distribution box which is the first box coming off the heater. Can't be seen from inside but if you feel behind the box you'll find the cable attachment for selection of either air or heat (the middle of the three slides on your control). When the slide is moved to the left it opens the flapper to shut off heated air and open the air from the evaporator. It also has a cam integrated with the cable end that pushes a button on the AC switch. Just changed mine yesterday while putting in a new blower relay.
Thanks man, but it sounds like you're talking about a flap for hot/cold air control, while I'm talking about the automated switch that turns the compressor on and off.

Wait, I just thought of something that might make this all moot... Does the ac system used in these trucks need to cycle on and off, to keep the right pressure, or are they always on when cooling, no cycling? I might just be really dumb....
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:17 AM   #6
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Like i said. There is a switch. It's operated off the end of the cable that also operates the flapper. No cycling. Simple on/off. Available from Brothers (ACS6772) and probably others.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:36 AM   #7
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Does the ac system used in these trucks need to cycle on and off, to keep the right pressure, or are they always on when cooling, no cycling? I might just be really dumb....
On a factory A/C system the compressor runs continuously, the POA (Pilot Operated Absolute)valve keeps the evaporator from freezing and building excessive pressure. Most after market systems use a binary switch to basically do the same thing by cycling the compressor off and on.

They make a POA upgrade that fits in the space allowed on a factory air system to convert to a binary switch to cycle your compressor.

If your POA is a Delco brand it is non rebuildable if it is Frigidaire brand it is rebuildable and can be converted to 134A specs.

That's all I know about that.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:48 AM   #8
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Re: A/C comp control?

That looks like the thing that comes on aftermarket stuff like vintage air. It did not come from the factory that way.
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Like i said. There is a switch. It's operated off the end of the cable that also operates the flapper. No cycling. Simple on/off. Available from Brothers (ACS6772) and probably others.
Ah, thank you, I misunderstood. This is great, but on the other hand more hard to reach **** I gotta replace .
Right now I'm in the process of trying to figure out what the **** the PO did to the wiring, I haven't been neat by any standards but this **** looks like a christmas tree! there's wires split to two wires with splits on those and so on. I'd say 50% don't go anywhere and 75% of those are hot with exposed wire. I gotta fix this **** somehow. The underside of my dash looks like someone just took a foot wide bundle of random wires, connectors, and splitters and shoved it up under there. It's a miracle my truck hasn't burned down yet.
Also half my fuse box is unpowered, I used a wire to jump the top to the bottom and I currently have about 5 things running on the ACC outlet that should have dedicated wires . Oh and this morning while working on the wiring I gave the truck some gas to keep it from stalling and the throttle cable retainer broke. Just one thing after another.

PS: everyone else thanks so much for your input!
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Old 02-13-2020, 01:24 AM   #10
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This thread has a bit more info about that switch. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=766996 Your cursing indicates you found the location of it though.
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:50 AM   #11
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The electrical section has the wiring schematic's in color with all the right color wires to trace your mess with and figure out what you don't need.
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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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