What denotes the C/10 vs Custom/10 emblems

[cericd]

Yeah, I don't doubt that my truck is a base model C/10. Especially with the "long list" of options on the SPID. My assumption is that a particular plant, St Luis in my case, was putting Custom glove box doors on C/10 pickups. That's why I was wondering where Becker67's C/10 was built. My truck has had one exterior repaint but the interior paint, blue date of manufacture sticker and SPID remain original.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer

Is your 1970 an early production? 1969 Customs did not get the Custom/10 front fender emblems-only the glove box door and on the SPID. Sounds like those emblems came along later in the 1970 model year.

Both Cericd's and the other one he showed are definitely base trim level C/10s. Notice the black wing vents, no trim in window gaskets, and the metal door panels. The question is why do these trucks have Custom emblems on the glovebox doors when they aren't Customs?

Again, the number of options has nothing to do with trim level. You could have a '69 C/10 SWB with 396/TH400, posi rear, upper and lower trim, wood bed floor, A/C, and bucket seats. And you could have a '69 CST/10 SWB with 6cyl/3spd, no posi, metal floor, no A/C, and bench seat

[cericd]

Originally Posted by special-K

Again, the number of options has nothing to do with trim level. You could have a '69 C/10 SWB with 396/TH400, posi rear, upper and lower trim, wood bed floor, A/C, and bucket seats. And you could have a '69 CST/10 SWB with 6cyl/3spd, no posi, metal floor, no A/C, and bench seat

Yep you're right, I've seen a few pretty low optioned CST pickups. I should've been more clear, my truck came with none of the stuff shown on the Z62 list. No window trim, chrome vent windows, control knob trim, cigar lighter, etc. In fact, when I bought it, it still had the lighter delete plug in the dash. However, the AM radio which is listed on the SPID does have the metal inserts in the knobs but the knobs on the gauge cluster do not.

[Steeveedee]

I'm still trying to figure out why my truck has Z84 on the SPID and doesn't have the stainless trim in the windshield gasket. Did I just misunderstand it? Can't tell by the back glass, because that gasket was replaced by the boot that connected the cab to the camper shell.

[1970cstblazer]

I guess some of the discrepancies can be attributed to factory errors. It was just part of the times, as build quality was not consistent then.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Steeveedee

I'm still trying to figure out why my truck has Z84 on the SPID and doesn't have the stainless trim in the windshield gasket. Did I just misunderstand it? Can't tell by the back glass, because that gasket was replaced by the boot that connected the cab to the camper shell.

Is your windshield Soft Ray? maybe your father in law had it replaced at some point and the auto glass shop used a standard gasket

[Palf70Step]

Tht's what I was thinking as I have done it (and may do it again)

[Keith Seymore]

This whole thread is an example of why we have RPOs.

Z61
Z62
Z84
YE9 or whatever
or none

All of the emblems and noun names and content are tied to that engineering shorthand.

Otherwise you get into this battle of a thousand words that we see here.

If the discussion continues I would encourage you all to frame it into those buckets (by model year). I think it will help.

K

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer

I guess some of the discrepancies can be attributed to factory errors. It was just part of the times, as build quality was not consistent then.

Not just then.

When we introduced the Volt in 2011 the interior was a hodgepodge of funky electrical looking patterns and trim colors and interior door trim panel colors and radio center stack colors and seat colors.

After much study I came to realize that the Hamtramck plant was building every car wrong. They looked better than how it was defined, but were wrong.

For 2012 I was able to introduce a change so that they looked right and were supported by the engineering documentation.

For a while there I think I was the only guy in the industry who knew what it was supposed to look like.

Sorry for the hi jack.

K

[1970cstblazer]

Keith- always enjoy your vast knowledge and experience.

[Steeveedee]

Originally Posted by special-K

Is your windshield Soft Ray? maybe your father in law had it replaced at some point and the auto glass shop used a standard gasket

A11 on the SPID. I will note that my FiL was an insurance adjuster. He had this truck repainted for free (my wife says) by a local body shop, and the white/orange/white is now white/orange. It wouldn't have taken a whole lot of effort by those body shop guys to paint the lower part white again. I do remember asking him why it hadn't been done back to original, and he got kind of irritated for me asking. Given that my FiL wasn't real concerned about originality, I wouldn't be surprised if he had the windshield replaced and told the glass shop to not bother with the stainless trim. I don't actually care about that, it just seems strange for it not to have been there. Also, when I cleaned up the roof and repainted it before having the cabover camper shell installed, I replaced that gasket. I figured it was original, as it was as hard as rock, and I used a box cutter to cut around the windshield so that I wouldn't break it when pulling it out. I'll look at it tomorrow when it's light out. It may not now be a tinted windshield? I dunno.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

This whole thread is an example of why we have RPOs.

Z61
Z62
Z84
YE9 or whatever
or none

All of the emblems and noun names and content are tied to that engineering shorthand.

Otherwise you get into this battle of a thousand words that we see here.

If the discussion continues I would encourage you all to frame it into those buckets (by model year). I think it will help.

K

I'm in no battle. I've laid it all out, once in '07 and again since it was brought back. It takes more than the RPO codes. What came with each option takes words. Since most people go by the fender emblem, I explained the name changes for the RPO codes through the years quite clearly and accurately