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bird7263 · 07-01-2009, 11:41 AM

I love the work that is done to some of these frames and the killer huge c notches. However I spent money and my buddy did a lot of work to put in the c notch kit that is welded in. He boxed it in the back and did a killer job. I am trying to keep it semi traditional so that is why I did not go with a bigger c notch. I had to cut a small hole in the bed as you can see then I put wood over the top of that.. I want to keep the bed in it as it is.. I like the fact that I can still load my Harley in the back.

I am gonna stick with what I got, I am just trying to see how low it will go with out cutting out all of my hard work already done. I know that it will not lay frame like a lot of them on this site but I want to be as low as I can with what I got. Jack (chevytrucknut) has a set up similar to mine and his sits killer.. However he has headers that are hanging so to don't allow him to go as low as he could. I think he is going to change that soon. I saw his truck at the Rose City Roundup. (killer truck by the way) Something about original black paint that is all patined' makes sooooo sweet.

I cant seem to find any threads or good pics.. keep sending the links and ideas guys.. thanks

daverod · 07-01-2009, 11:54 AM

You are the MAN Strodder. Now you made me change my mind again. Now I'm thinking 4 link. The watts link was like $500. I could fab a 4 link for that don't you think. I like that box idea.

daverod · 07-01-2009, 12:00 PM

Sema girls

I'm glad my wife doesn't read this sight.

joe231 · 07-01-2009, 12:20 PM

I have been thinking about doing an air over leaf on my '80...
this pic leads me to believe that you would get lots of axle wrap with a single leaf spring though....

I have even been kicking around the idea of putting '60's trailing arms and cross member in it, I know CPP has a kit, but I think I can get the original stuff for free....they say it greatly improves the handling of the squares.....

sorry for the thread 'jack Bird..

daverod · 07-01-2009, 02:17 PM

Sorry ? Never stopped you before.

Strodder · 07-01-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by daverod

Sema girls

I'm glad my wife doesn't read this sight.

I have better gallery's on there but Smugmug made me make them private.

joe231 · 07-01-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by daverod

Sorry ? Never stopped you before.

Strodder · 07-01-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

I have been thinking about doing an air over leaf on my '80...
this pic leads me to believe that you would get lots of axle wrap with a single leaf spring though....

I have even been kicking around the idea of putting '60's trailing arms and cross member in it, I know CPP has a kit, but I think I can get the original stuff for free....they say it greatly improves the handling of the squares.....

sorry for the thread 'jack Bird..

I showed this picture because he had clearance issues. I could get the most travel with this set up. This was a S-10 Blazer with just a "C" notch. To cure axle rap they have traction bars that will cure that. The leaf spring is the stock spring that I took the other leafs out of then got it de arched. They are just there to hold the axle in. The bags do all the work.

joe231 · 07-01-2009, 03:13 PM

yeah the cal-tracs for my truck are very cool, but quite expensive....kinda negates the savings of using the stock spring as an axle locator.....maybe I will just do a 2 link...

Strodder · 07-01-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231

yeah the cal-tracs for my truck are very cool, but quite expensive....kinda negates the savings of using the stock spring as an axle locator.....maybe I will just do a 2 link...

You will need a pan hard bar with a 2 link. Or the best thing would be that watts link.

joe231 · 07-01-2009, 03:24 PM

Yeah, believe me I have researched suspension for years....my problem isn't what I will need. it is what type of suspension do I want

Wrecker55 · 07-01-2009, 03:24 PM

Mine has a 5" notch, will come down 7" more but I like the ride the height it is

joe231 · 07-01-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrecker55

Mine has a 5" notch, will come down 7" more but I like the ride the height it is

I like it too!!
have you started the rebuild yet?

Wrecker55 · 07-01-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231

I like it too!!
have you started the rebuild yet?

yes I have Joe http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=351049

creep · 07-01-2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

I have been thinking about doing an air over leaf on my '80...
this pic leads me to believe that you would get lots of axle wrap with a single leaf spring though....

I have even been kicking around the idea of putting '60's trailing arms and cross member in it, I know CPP has a kit, but I think I can get the original stuff for free....they say it greatly improves the handling of the squares.....

sorry for the thread 'jack Bird..

I run a monoleaf setup on my Astro van and fixed the axle wrap with a set of cheap traction bars from Summit Racing. But my van only has a v6 in it.

Can I use the CPP trailing arm setup on a 63 GMC with leaf springs? Will the crossmember bolt into place and would I need a different axle to run it?

If you really want it to go as low as it can I think air bags is the only choice you have. You could sell your coils and offset the price a little and you don't really need a complex setup.

joe231 · 07-02-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by creep

I run a monoleaf setup on my Astro van and fixed the axle wrap with a set of cheap traction bars from Summit Racing. But my van only has a v6 in it.

Can I use the CPP trailing arm setup on a 63 GMC with leaf springs? Will the crossmember bolt into place and would I need a different axle to run it?

If you really want it to go as low as it can I think air bags is the only choice you have. You could sell your coils and offset the price a little and you don't really need a complex setup.

alot of the astros came with mono-leaf that pic is a typical coil pack with all but one leaf removed....

I would think the CPP X-member would be fairly easy to put in your '63 frame, the frames are the same from '63-'66...I can't imagine the frames them selves were much different from coil to leaf spring trucks. CPP also sells conversion perches to put practically any rear diff into a rear coil sprung truck, they are specific to the trailing arm suspension, and are angled

ruffrida2005 · 07-02-2009, 01:20 AM

Creep can you take a pic of your leaf set up? and is it on the outside of the frame? I just dont know how the leaf springs are set up on the GMC's. If it's on the outside dont waist your money on the CPP trailing arms. If you want to bag it just run a link bar from your leaf pearch to the axle. Much cheaper for you.

chevytrucknut · 07-02-2009, 02:42 AM

Hey Ryan, here are some more pics of my black truck that has(as you said) just a small notch, but the header problem has been fixed. So it goes alot lower.It doesn't "lay frame" ...just crossmember.Thanks for the nice words about my truck and I think yours looks great where it is too.

bird7263 · 07-02-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevytrucknut

Hey Ryan, here are some more pics of my black truck that has(as you said) just a small notch, but the header problem has been fixed. So it goes alot lower.It doesn't "lay frame" ...just crossmember.Thanks for the nice words about my truck and I think yours looks great where it is too.

I cant wait to see it.. I will hopefully start on mine in about 2 weeks..

creep · 07-02-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

alot of the astros came with mono-leaf that pic is a typical coil pack with all but one leaf removed....

I would think the CPP X-member would be fairly easy to put in your '63 frame, the frames are the same from '63-'66...I can't imagine the frames them selves were much different from coil to leaf spring trucks. CPP also sells conversion perches to put practically any rear diff into a rear coil sprung truck, they are specific to the trailing arm suspension, and are angled

Yeah, mine came with the composite monoleaf but I switched it over to the steel spring pack and used only the main leaf.

@ ruffrida, I don't have the truck yet but I'm pretty sure the springs are on the outside but the front mounts may hang lower than the rest of the frame, keeping it from laying flat.

ruffrida2005 · 07-02-2009, 12:27 PM

If the leaf pearch lays lower then the frame, then all you have to do is bust the welds and move it up.

I like the way chevytrucknuts truck sits. But I'm more of how the orange one lays out!

protrash64 · 07-02-2009, 12:40 PM

Creep, my truck is a leaf spring frame. The mount does hang below the frame, BUT it is in the location where the frame begins to kick upwards so the mount is not below the main body of the frame underneath the cab. Ruffrida's suggestion would work well for a 2-link and then fab a panhard to control side to side....or Watt's link.

creep · 07-02-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64

Creep, my truck is a leaf spring frame. The mount does hang below the frame, BUT it is in the location where the frame begins to kick upwards so the mount is not below the main body of the frame underneath the cab. Ruffrida's suggestion would work well for a 2-link and then fab a panhard to control side to side....or Watt's link.

Cool, thanks. That saves me the trouble of figuring out which suspension to use.

hAetWagon · 07-02-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrecker55

Mine has a 5" notch, will come down 7" more but I like the ride the height it is

Your truck is one sinister lookin SOB. I love it, I was thinking about running similar a wheel setup myself as well as chopping the top.

SkullCandy · 07-02-2009, 02:39 PM

Will the 60-66 truck lay the frame on stock suspension? with a big c-notch.

07-01-2009, 11:41 AM	#26
bird7263 Urban Chop Shop Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tigard Oregon Posts: 264	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? I love the work that is done to some of these frames and the killer huge c notches. However I spent money and my buddy did a lot of work to put in the c notch kit that is welded in. He boxed it in the back and did a killer job. I am trying to keep it semi traditional so that is why I did not go with a bigger c notch. I had to cut a small hole in the bed as you can see then I put wood over the top of that.. I want to keep the bed in it as it is.. I like the fact that I can still load my Harley in the back. I am gonna stick with what I got, I am just trying to see how low it will go with out cutting out all of my hard work already done. I know that it will not lay frame like a lot of them on this site but I want to be as low as I can with what I got. Jack (chevytrucknut) has a set up similar to mine and his sits killer.. However he has headers that are hanging so to don't allow him to go as low as he could. I think he is going to change that soon. I saw his truck at the Rose City Roundup. (killer truck by the way) Something about original black paint that is all patined' makes sooooo sweet. I cant seem to find any threads or good pics.. keep sending the links and ideas guys.. thanks Attached Images __________________ 2003 Chevy Trailblazer LTZ, 2.5" Susp Lift, Tinted, HID's/LED interior/ Lot of upgrades and little mods 1965 Chevy 1/2T Longbox, soon to be a slammed shop truck Build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=591266 Semper Fi Marines

07-01-2009, 11:54 AM	#27
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? You are the MAN Strodder. Now you made me change my mind again. Now I'm thinking 4 link. The watts link was like $500. I could fab a 4 link for that don't you think. I like that box idea. Last edited by daverod; 07-01-2009 at 11:55 AM.

07-01-2009, 12:00 PM	#28
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Sema girls I'm glad my wife doesn't read this sight. Last edited by daverod; 07-01-2009 at 12:02 PM.

07-01-2009, 12:20 PM	#29
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? I have been thinking about doing an air over leaf on my '80... this pic leads me to believe that you would get lots of axle wrap with a single leaf spring though.... I have even been kicking around the idea of putting '60's trailing arms and cross member in it, I know CPP has a kit, but I think I can get the original stuff for free....they say it greatly improves the handling of the squares..... sorry for the thread 'jack Bird.. __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-01-2009, 02:17 PM	#30
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Sorry ? Never stopped you before.

07-01-2009, 03:13 PM	#34
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? yeah the cal-tracs for my truck are very cool, but quite expensive....kinda negates the savings of using the stock spring as an axle locator.....maybe I will just do a 2 link... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-01-2009, 03:24 PM	#36
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Yeah, believe me I have researched suspension for years....my problem isn't what I will need. it is what type of suspension do I want __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-01-2009, 03:24 PM	#37
Wrecker55 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 108	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Mine has a 5" notch, will come down 7" more but I like the ride the height it is Attached Images __________________ BUILDhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=351049 INTRO http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=349761

07-02-2009, 01:20 AM	#42
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Creep can you take a pic of your leaf set up? and is it on the outside of the frame? I just dont know how the leaf springs are set up on the GMC's. If it's on the outside dont waist your money on the CPP trailing arms. If you want to bag it just run a link bar from your leaf pearch to the axle. Much cheaper for you. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

07-02-2009, 02:42 AM	#43
chevytrucknut Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Battleground, Washington Posts: 177	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Hey Ryan, here are some more pics of my black truck that has(as you said) just a small notch, but the header problem has been fixed. So it goes alot lower.It doesn't "lay frame" ...just crossmember.Thanks for the nice words about my truck and I think yours looks great where it is too. Attached Images __________________ '77 GMC SWB '66 SNB (Project) Battle Ground, WA Last edited by chevytrucknut; 07-02-2009 at 02:48 AM.

07-02-2009, 12:27 PM	#46
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? If the leaf pearch lays lower then the frame, then all you have to do is bust the welds and move it up. I like the way chevytrucknuts truck sits. But I'm more of how the orange one lays out! __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

07-02-2009, 12:40 PM	#47
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Creep, my truck is a leaf spring frame. The mount does hang below the frame, BUT it is in the location where the frame begins to kick upwards so the mount is not below the main body of the frame underneath the cab. Ruffrida's suggestion would work well for a 2-link and then fab a panhard to control side to side....or Watt's link. __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

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SkullCandy Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 81	Re: Bagged, how low will it go with standard cnotch. Any pics??? Will the 60-66 truck lay the frame on stock suspension? with a big c-notch. __________________ 1990 Dodge Ram D250 Cummins

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