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Lokin4AReason · 06-02-2015, 12:48 PM

this should have an interesting out come w/ all the comment(s) posted in the thread ..

hope that it ll work for the best =0)

naphtali5725 · 06-02-2015, 02:07 PM

alright here's the scoop from the NC DMV inspector...

cab VIN was valid, not stolen etc. 1986 long wheel base truck

frame 1985 short wheel base, and was stolen in 1987, legally recovered, then used to build my truck

he confiscated the VIN tag that was on it

they will issue 2 new VIN tags, with a NC issued VIN... (with the same number affixed in different spots... one in door jamb, and one under the hood)
one will be affixed underhood near the brake master cylinder
one will be affixed inside the drivers door jamb on the cab
NOT necessary to re-VIN the frame, but those numbers will be on the title record with the new VIN's to tie them all together in one vehicle

he said it was good that I had taken it back apart, if the cab or frame was in an active theft case, and the truck was assembled, they would have taken the whole thing.

however, since everything was apart, all they would have done was either take the cab or frame by itself if either was an active theft case

once they come back in 2 weeks with the VIN's and apply them, then I can go get it re-titled in my name, whilst i wait for the title to come back, it will have to be bonded as proof of ownership until title is in hand

once title is in hand with the new VIN's, that's it, all is ok, nothing to worry about anymore

so i'm glad i went through the correct procedures, if it would have been found out during a traffic stop, or whatever... it would have been impounded, legal fees, lawyer fees etc. etc. etc. you know the deal...

that's about it. inspector suggested getting stuff like this taken care of before you drop a ton of money into it, he's seen guys heartbroken when they tow their **** away, and it takes about a year for the judicial process to get it back

FWIW

UKNOWME · 06-02-2015, 02:30 PM

Your truck is going to have 2 VINs? That doesn't make sense. Are you gonna have 2 titles?

naphtali5725 · 06-02-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKNOWME

Your truck is going to have 2 VINs? That doesn't make sense. Are you gonna have 2 titles?

nope
just 2 VIN tags, same number affixed in different spots... in door jamb, and under the hood

UKNOWME · 06-02-2015, 02:41 PM

Ok that makes perfect sense. Sorry

naphtali5725 · 06-02-2015, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKNOWME

Ok that makes perfect sense. Sorry

np, hope all this info helps someone else!

1963c-10 · 06-02-2015, 03:58 PM

Glad it all worked out for you!!!!!!!

junksaver · 06-02-2015, 03:58 PM

Good information. I had a feeling DMV was going to re vin the truck.
Was the inspector easy to deal with?
How much do you think it will cost to bond the truck?

naphtali5725 · 06-02-2015, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junksaver

Good information. I had a feeling DMV was going to re vin the truck.
Was the inspector easy to deal with?
How much do you think it will cost to bond the truck?

inspector was real cool... no issues...

about 100 bucks

Keith Seymore · 06-02-2015, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naphtali5725

CFF395273 stamped twice in two different places on top of passenger side frame rail

my frame VIN and Cab VIN don't match...
to top it off... VIN tag has been removed/reattached in the past...

have to go thru redtape BS with DMV inspector

curious to what the frame went to, cab is an 86

thanks guys

Glad it worked out.

I kept forgetting to mention: a Flint built '85 pickup - I probably built that truck (if it came through on second shift).

Part of it, anyway...

K

Hubscrub · 06-02-2015, 08:44 PM

Cool, all worked out

naphtali5725 · 06-02-2015, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Glad it worked out.

I kept forgetting to mention: a Flint built '85 pickup - I probably built that truck (if it came through on second shift).

Part of it, anyway...

K

can i get an autographed nameplate from you or something

that would be cool!

**Gregski** · 06-02-2015, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Glad it worked out.

I kept forgetting to mention: a Flint built '85 pickup - I probably built that truck (if it came through on second shift).

Part of it, anyway...

K

Should have used better rivets on that darn cab VIN plate and this could have all been avoided, JK

71swb4x4 · 06-02-2015, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregski

Should have used better rivets on that darn cab VIN plate and this could have all been avoided, JK

That's funny. Keith, you have some explaining to do!

greg64 · 06-02-2015, 10:30 PM

Glad it worked out for you. I always get nervous with situations like this, since the whole thing is out of our control.

mattcrp1 · 06-02-2015, 11:50 PM

Glad it worked out. I always get a title on a project before I put a dollar in it. Here in CA we can get a title with out registration by putting the vehicle in to non-op status.

I used to do VIN verification work and got to see a lot of projects in different states of repair. I would be nervous about a vehicle and putting money in it with out that piece of paper on my hand.

naphtali5725 · 06-03-2015, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregski

should have used better rivets on that darn cab vin plate and this could have all been avoided, jk

lol

naphtali5725 · 06-03-2015, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattcrp1

Glad it worked out. I always get a title on a project before I put a dollar in it. Here in CA we can get a title with out registration by putting the vehicle in to non-op status.

I used to do VIN verification work and got to see a lot of projects in different states of repair. I would be nervous about a vehicle and putting money in it with out that piece of paper on my hand.

i had a title... but once the vin tag is tampered with, doesn't matter, at least not here in NC

all is well now, hope the info helps others in NC!

naphtali5725 · 06-03-2015, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Glad it worked out.

I kept forgetting to mention: a Flint built '85 pickup - I probably built that truck (if it came through on second shift).

Part of it, anyway...

K

i believe you worked on the fenders too? something about cross threaded wheel well bolts? LOL

naphtali5725 · 06-03-2015, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg64

Glad it worked out for you. I always get nervous with situations like this, since the whole thing is out of our control.

me too, i was sweating bullets big time!

68Timber · 06-03-2015, 03:22 PM

Congrats, I know you had to be sweating that a little. I would have been.

**hatzie** · 06-03-2015, 09:29 PM

That's great news. It had the possibility of going very much the other direction.

naphtali5725 · 06-04-2015, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hatzie

That's great news. It had the possibility of going very much the other direction.

yeah man, i'm glad it was all good to go!

motornut · 06-04-2015, 08:14 AM

Glad to hear it all worked out in your favor,
bet it's worth the sweat now to enjoy the breeze later

naphtali5725 · 06-09-2015, 06:15 AM

DMV inspector called, the new VIN number has been assigned to my truck, and he is supposed to be coming today to affix the 2 new VIN tags...

i'll update and post pics of them when it's done

06-02-2015, 12:48 PM	#51
Lokin4AReason Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: somewhere . . . Posts: 974	Re: partial frame VIN/Cab VIN don't match question this should have an interesting out come w/ all the comment(s) posted in the thread .. hope that it ll work for the best =0) __________________ dont want to hear excuses, i want to hear solution(s)

06-02-2015, 02:07 PM	#52
naphtali5725 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NC Posts: 1,101	Re: partial frame VIN/Cab VIN don't match question alright here's the scoop from the NC DMV inspector... cab VIN was valid, not stolen etc. 1986 long wheel base truck frame 1985 short wheel base, and was stolen in 1987, legally recovered, then used to build my truck he confiscated the VIN tag that was on it they will issue 2 new VIN tags, with a NC issued VIN... (with the same number affixed in different spots... one in door jamb, and one under the hood) one will be affixed underhood near the brake master cylinder one will be affixed inside the drivers door jamb on the cab NOT necessary to re-VIN the frame, but those numbers will be on the title record with the new VIN's to tie them all together in one vehicle he said it was good that I had taken it back apart, if the cab or frame was in an active theft case, and the truck was assembled, they would have taken the whole thing. however, since everything was apart, all they would have done was either take the cab or frame by itself if either was an active theft case once they come back in 2 weeks with the VIN's and apply them, then I can go get it re-titled in my name, whilst i wait for the title to come back, it will have to be bonded as proof of ownership until title is in hand once title is in hand with the new VIN's, that's it, all is ok, nothing to worry about anymore so i'm glad i went through the correct procedures, if it would have been found out during a traffic stop, or whatever... it would have been impounded, legal fees, lawyer fees etc. etc. etc. you know the deal... that's about it. inspector suggested getting stuff like this taken care of before you drop a ton of money into it, he's seen guys heartbroken when they tow their **** away, and it takes about a year for the judicial process to get it back FWIW __________________ My build thread... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=515829 Disabled Veteran 82nd Airborne Division Operations: Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and Uphold Democracy Last edited by naphtali5725; 06-02-2015 at 02:43 PM.

06-02-2015, 02:30 PM	#53
UKNOWME Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 2,705	Re: partial frame VIN/Cab VIN don't match question Your truck is going to have 2 VINs? That doesn't make sense. Are you gonna have 2 titles? __________________ 2018 Audi S5- wife's ride 1980 Chevy Scottsdale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543511 1981 Chevy Silverado- in pieces 1964 Chevy c10 2017 Jeep Wrangler JKU

06-02-2015, 02:41 PM	#55
UKNOWME Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 2,705	Re: partial frame VIN/Cab VIN don't match question Ok that makes perfect sense. Sorry __________________ 2018 Audi S5- wife's ride 1980 Chevy Scottsdale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543511 1981 Chevy Silverado- in pieces 1964 Chevy c10 2017 Jeep Wrangler JKU

06-02-2015, 03:58 PM	#57
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06-02-2015, 03:58 PM	#58
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06-02-2015, 10:30 PM	#65
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06-02-2015, 11:50 PM	#66
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06-03-2015, 03:22 PM	#71
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06-03-2015, 09:29 PM	#72
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06-04-2015, 08:14 AM	#74
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06-09-2015, 06:15 AM	#75
naphtali5725 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NC Posts: 1,101	Re: partial frame VIN/Cab VIN don't match question DMV inspector called, the new VIN number has been assigned to my truck, and he is supposed to be coming today to affix the 2 new VIN tags... i'll update and post pics of them when it's done __________________ My build thread... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=515829 Disabled Veteran 82nd Airborne Division Operations: Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and Uphold Democracy

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