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Old 04-16-2012, 11:57 PM   #801
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Lookin good! Wide power coated white steelies and caps for sure!
Thanks. I'll probably use these ford wheels for now unless I get a smoking deal on some 16x10 aluminum wheels.

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Nice work Ryan! Keep up the hard work. You'll be driving this beast in no time.
Thanks, there is still a lot left to do. I have to figure out how I'm going to get my turbos in there with a stock a/c housing yet too.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:07 AM   #802
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You might want to consider going with a Vintage Air unit, it eliminates the large AC unit under the hood. Creates a ton of room. Doug
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You might want to consider going with a Vintage Air unit, it eliminates the large AC unit under the hood. Creates a ton of room. Doug
Not happening on this project as I need that for my 40 Ford and the funds are let's say dry. The 40 will get vintage air before this unit.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:21 AM   #804
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sumtimes there are small multihookup units like the vintage air to be found in wrecked limo's where they regulate the cool air for the rear passengers it shouldnt be to hard to adapt the controlls for those to work with the standard chevy stuff either maibe look for that and use the stock compressor
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Looking good! Kurt is good peoples.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:59 AM   #806
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Starting engine remock up. The engine and trans are resting on the Ryanroo approved mocking cross member. The engine still needs to brought up about 2* and it'll be pretty close. NV4500 in, now to get the tcase on and see what's up.
that one is nice. way more class than the stack of crap i have.

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Old 04-17-2012, 10:37 AM   #807
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sumtimes there are small multihookup units like the vintage air to be found in wrecked limo's where they regulate the cool air for the rear passengers it shouldnt be to hard to adapt the controlls for those to work with the standard chevy stuff either maibe look for that and use the stock compressor
Where do I find a wrecked Limo?
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Not happening on this project as I need that for my 40 Ford and the funds are let's say dry. The 40 will get vintage air before this unit.
I have a heater/AC unit from a kenworth sleeper that I am going to use for my 52 gmc. I may just use it for parts. If that won't work I will go to pick and pull and do some shopping.There aer some small cars that have to have some good parts.
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Where do I find a wrecked Limo?
i dunno im not from the states i figure there some yards that might have one or two i believe theres a website where you can search them online , there more places to find those small units like in the rear of ambulances just look beyond the row of chevies in the yard
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:58 PM   #810
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I think I have a way to get both of them in there. My biggest concern is getting 4" or 5" exhaust through the frame and missing the trans and drive shaft. I'm guessing it'll have to go on the out side of the frame and cross back over before the RH saddle tank. We'll see if I ever get some more time to waste on it.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:52 PM   #811
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there a couple of places that sell oval pipe straight and bended length or width wize and oval to round adapters if you can get a 3 inch pipe in there you could prolly fit that in there too

http://www.spintechmufflers.com/tubi...ng/cat_41.html
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:22 PM   #812
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ive been worrying about that exhaust routing myself. ive also been inactively looking for a ford d60 for the front in hopes that i can miss the issue entirely.

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I think I have a way to get both of them in there. My biggest concern is getting 4" or 5" exhaust through the frame and missing the trans and drive shaft. I'm guessing it'll have to go on the out side of the frame and cross back over before the RH saddle tank. We'll see if I ever get some more time to waste on it.
You *might* get a 4" pipe between the frame and transfer case, fuggidabout trying to put a fiver through there. Do you have any body lift on it?? One inch would get a four through for sure with good floor clearance, might be enough for a five, not sure though. I wanted to put a one inch in mine a few times, but came up with solutions for the problems in other ways, but I could have set the motor a little higher and got a bit more up-travel, then again, I was only putting a 3.5" through there too.
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It's a tight fit to get a 4" thru that hole, I tried on mine but only had 1/4" clearance around it and that didn't sit well with me but my engine sits higher than most put them. I ended up jogging outside the frame all the way back (no saddle tank). The hole was already in my inner fender so no big deal. You could loop it over the frame and under the bed to get it back in the center.

Also, the only thing I didn't take a pic of before I came back to cali was my exhaust. My bad.

But it does look good, makes me want to get back to the midwest and drive mine (and paint it as nice as yours looks!)
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:41 PM   #815
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Ryan, are you needing AC? or just a heater unit?
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Here are some pics!

Seat and carpet setting in there to get out of the way for the most part.


Removed the rear stock shackle bracket and tried installing the DIY4X flip kit. It wouldn't work due to the hanger difference in the 73-87 hangers. I thought I could make it work but no such luck. It almost sits level right now. I spoke with Kurt today and he is going to swap me out for the correct hangers. Can't beat that.




Starting engine remock up. The engine and trans are resting on the Ryanroo approved mocking cross member. The engine still needs to brought up about 2* and it'll be pretty close. NV4500 in, now to get the tcase on and see what's up.





That's all the weekend allowed for on this truck.
Looking good Ryan, ! It motovates me to get going.
I like the custom rear cross member in the fourth pictire.
That reminds me The inspector is comming tomorrow {The garbage man}He is building a 67.He always spends about 20 minutes here.I better get somthing done today
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You *might* get a 4" pipe between the frame and transfer case, fuggidabout trying to put a fiver through there. Do you have any body lift on it?? One inch would get a four through for sure with good floor clearance, might be enough for a five, not sure though. I wanted to put a one inch in mine a few times, but came up with solutions for the problems in other ways, but I could have set the motor a little higher and got a bit more up-travel, then again, I was only putting a 3.5" through there too.
Yeah, on my brother's 88 V30 3" was the max on that baby. I knew this RH drive shaft was going to bite me, but I'll deal with it.
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ive been worrying about that exhaust routing myself. ive also been inactively looking for a ford d60 for the front in hopes that i can miss the issue entirely.

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Ryan, make sure you get the 78-79 earlier style. It isn't super wide like the later ones and will bolt right in.
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It's a tight fit to get a 4" thru that hole, I tried on mine but only had 1/4" clearance around it and that didn't sit well with me but my engine sits higher than most put them. I ended up jogging outside the frame all the way back (no saddle tank). The hole was already in my inner fender so no big deal. You could loop it over the frame and under the bed to get it back in the center.

Also, the only thing I didn't take a pic of before I came back to cali was my exhaust. My bad.

But it does look good, makes me want to get back to the midwest and drive mine (and paint it as nice as yours looks!)
Be on the look out for that white F-350 on base. That's my little bro. He'll be leaving Thursday for his month long leave though.

I'm thinking right now the out side the frame routing will be the way to go. We'll see what it looks like with a 241DHD in there though. I want to use the 205 because I know it'll bolt right on and so will my tcase shifter. But I know in the back f my mind, the skinny pedal is getting mashed once in a while. That being said, there may be a 40k sled behind it and I don't want to be searching for 205 parts or cases again.

And thatnks on the paint. If I ever get far enough, I'll throw the front clip on and take some pics. My poor running hood.
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Ryan, are you needing AC? or just a heater unit?
Well, I have all the inside parts and the outer housing. I'm going to have to locate the other stuff. Like the heat valve, orifice tube or what ever they use, condenser, and I'll have new lines made. I'm unsure of what compressor I'm going to run at this point as well.
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Looking good Ryan, ! It motovates me to get going.
I like the custom rear cross member in the fourth pictire.
That reminds me The inspector is comming tomorrow {The garbage man}He is building a 67.He always spends about 20 minutes here.I better get somthing done today
Thanks, it might be good for one hard bounce.
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What I was getting at, is if you are not gonna need AC, you can adapt a 70s or 80s chevy non-AC truck heater. the outer air box is pretty small.
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Ryan, make sure you get the 78-79 earlier style. It isn't super wide like the later ones and will bolt right in.
yeah, thats the reason i dont already have it. they are a little more scarce. i keep my eyes peeled though.

you really worried about the 205 sploding? ive seen far more blown up aluminum cased transfers than 205s. in fact ive never actually seen the case damaged. ive seen alot of funny other stuff blow. you are just worried about chasing down spare 29 sp cases? i think with a little time i could make a stiffener plate for the 205 case.

i am also wondering about the 47re pan to driveline clearance. i think it may be a little tight

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yeah, thats the reason i dont already have it. they are a little more scarce. i keep my eyes peeled though.

you really worried about the 205 sploding? ive seen far more blown up aluminum cased transfers than 205s. in fact ive never actually seen the case damaged. ive seen alot of funny other stuff blow. you are just worried about chasing down spare 29 sp cases? i think with a little time i could make a stiffener plate for the 205 case.

i am also wondering about the 47re pan to driveline clearance. i think it may be a little tight

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For the hard to find part of it, but when you make over 500HP the gear to gear wont hold the 1000lb ft of torque very well. NP241DHDs hold well over 1800lb ft and are easier to find.
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For the hard to find part of it, but when you make over 500HP the gear to gear wont hold the 1000lb ft of torque very well. NP241DHDs hold well over 1800lb ft and are easier to find.
What he said.

I've broken inputs and outputs with a divorced 205 truck I had. Then I put a 29sp in it and did it again. Then I purchased the pro fab billet parts and broke those. No warranty and no money back from that deal so yeah I'm nervous of 205's with diesel power.
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