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**Captainfab** · 05-04-2014, 01:18 AM

Congrats to both of you. You are obviously doing things right.

mtully79 · 05-05-2014, 03:12 PM

Late congratulations, I hope there aren't too many diamonds...

**jaros44sr** · 05-07-2014, 12:48 PM

Thanks guys, great of you to check in.....sorry, but yeah, could of bought lots of rusty truck parts if i didnt buy those diamonds.

Working on injection harness, the part number for the FAST male terminal is #170260. Using the delphi tool in the pic will release them from the connecter...

20140507_115616 by james_jaros, on Flickr

**jaros44sr** · 05-11-2014, 10:25 AM

COP/CNP

20140511_101912 by james_jaros, on Flickr

**jaros44sr** · 05-14-2014, 12:24 PM

Worked on the injector harness, one side almost done. Much better in my opinion then the split plastic

XIM/with harness is on the way from FAST

OEM CNP brackets are just not working out, have to make something better

20140514_121524 by james_jaros, on Flickr

SONOSADSACK · 05-14-2014, 09:33 PM

Really looks good Jim. Big improvement over the plastic stuff. I wish I would have considered other options before I covered everything.

**jaros44sr** · 05-15-2014, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONOSADSACK

Really looks good Jim. Big improvement over the plastic stuff. I wish I would have considered other options before I covered everything.

Thanks, yeah, it was a no brainer for me, couldnt stand the look of the plastic stuff. But, it is somewhat of a chore to pull the connectors apart to slip on the sheath. I keep telling myself "the end result is worth all the hassle"

Glad to see youre making some progress, that gas tank mod was incredible, wished you would have posted up sooner

**jaros44sr** · 05-20-2014, 02:00 PM

Got the XIM and E dash in the mail today, now the fun begins, again.....

20140520_135439 by james_jaros, on Flickr

**jaros44sr** · 06-07-2014, 02:37 PM

Stuck in electrical prison....

Trying to repin my XIM 30 pin connector, but the sucker wont come out. Its a differant connector then what im used to working with.

20140607_141002 by james_jaros, on Flickr

**jaros44sr** · 06-08-2014, 10:16 AM

After two fustrating days i finally got the pin out, now just waiting for new ones from FAST

20140608_100817 by james_jaros, on Flickr

**Captainfab** · 06-09-2014, 12:57 AM

Did you use a special tool or just what you had?

**jaros44sr** · 06-09-2014, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab

Did you use a special tool or just what you had?

Yeah, i used that super thin Delphi 12094429 tool, just kept pressing and pushing on the bottom of the connector. Ill try to take a pic of the tab, but its really small and i dont know if it will turn out.

If A3 is on the bottom of the connector, and you pry down, it should raise the tab on the pin, and allow you to pull the pin forward, or push on wire

**jaros44sr** · 06-09-2014, 10:19 AM

Kinda hard to see, but the tang (T) is located in the dark shadowy area. I think the key is to pull on the wire, and then come in at a steep down angle with the tool to catch the (T) and pry up.....

The (T) im talking about has three horizontal white lines in it on the pic. I dont know if you have a tablet, but if blow up the pic, it becomes obvious where and what this 'T' looks like

20140609_100637 by james_jaros, on Flickr

skorpioskorpio · 06-09-2014, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Kinda hard to see, but the tang (T) is located in the dark shadowy area. I think the key is to pull on the wire, and then come in at a steep down angle with the tool to catch the (T) and pry up.....

The (T) im talking about has three horizontal white lines in it on the pic. I dont know if you have a tablet, but if blow up the pic, it becomes obvious where and what this 'T' looks like

20140609_100637 by james_jaros, on Flickr

De-latching a pin from a shell usually involves insertion of a release tool (or a pick or a tiny screwdriver) from the opposite side from the wire while you gently pull on the wire. It's not always obvious where to depress the latching tang unless you have a pin out and in your hand already.

(far more difficult to do if there is no wire to pull on)

**jaros44sr** · 06-09-2014, 06:17 PM

Dang it, i mean vertical lines......

**Captainfab** · 06-10-2014, 01:15 AM

So the wire and connector should pull out thru the wire side of the housing, correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by skorpioskorpio

De-latching a pin from a shell usually involves insertion of a release tool (or a pick or a tiny screwdriver) from the opposite side from the wire while you gently pull on the wire. It's not always obvious where to depress the latching tang unless you have a pin out and in your hand already.

(far more difficult to do if there is no wire to pull on)

skorpioskorpio · 06-10-2014, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab

So the wire and connector should pull out thru the wire side of the housing, correct?

I'm saying "usually" as a generalisation, I would assume so, I've taken apart dozens of different type connectors, and most are either locked in place by a tang on the pin that springs against a step in the shell or if not they are usually held in place by a small wedge in the shell (plastic part) that a fat portion of the pin must be pushed past. For the most part connectors are usually made to be terminated and then inserted into the connector shell and not usually made to have to snake the wire through the shell and then terminate. I've disassembled connectors from Amp, Tyco, Molex, T&B as well as Japanese and European connectors in a wide variety of electronic, vehicle and industrial applications and almost all mass termination descrete wire pin in shell type connectors are one of the 2 types and I'm usually able to get them apart with either an eyeglass size screwdriver or a dental pick (and often those work better than specifically designed extraction tools).

Of these type of connectors, if the retension mechanism is a small wedge in the plastic part they are released from the wire side, if a tang on the pin they are released from the opposite side. These actually look like they are probably the wedge type so they would be released from the wire side.

**jaros44sr** · 06-20-2014, 11:42 PM

Ok, this is as much as i know on the subject.....

Looking at the pins, they have a release tang on the bottom and you can access it through the wire side, and push the pin forward. There is no way that i can see to take the pin back into the connector b/c there are to very little nubs at the top of the pin that keep it from going in the direction of the wire. The End

This is FAST's part number, but you should be able to cross referance it to a delphi part number

20140619_135952 by james_jaros, on Flickr

You can see the tang hanging down, in this pic. better, that has to be depressed to remove pin

20140619_131809 by james_jaros, on Flickr

mtully79 · 07-31-2014, 04:53 PM

How's the progress Jim?

**jaros44sr** · 08-01-2014, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtully79

How's the progress Jim?

Well, to answer your question....its slow. Im under the wifeys employ for the summer (honey do list) and she has decided the outside of my workshop was a bit ghetto. So, i had to hang siding and trowel stucco to give her the curb appeal she wanted, but it cost her a 1945 erie gas pump

But, i finally decided on the wheels and tires i wanted ( knurley, to coin a phrase i learned on the site) interco truxes m&s radials. Stock size on the front, 10 in. wide on the back with 1 1/2" wheel spacers. Corvette ralleye from wheels vintique, not sure if i will run the center caps and trim rings....might do a poll to see what you guys think

20140801_124059 by james_jaros, on Flickr

20140801_124133 by james_jaros, on Flickr

mtully79 · 08-01-2014, 02:54 PM

Pump is a nice touch, it's the little victories that count after all.

Tires will look great on the truck, I'm curious to see how your poll turns out.

Any progress is good progress! Enjoy the rest of the summer.

**jaros44sr** · 08-01-2014, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtully79

Pump is a nice touch, it's the little victories that count after all.

Tires will look great on the truck, I'm curious to see how your poll turns out.

Any progress is good progress! Enjoy the rest of the summer.

Yeah, shes a keeper....leaves me alone in the 3 or 4 winter months to play with my truck as much as i like, never even questions how much ive spent....shes the best, dont tell her i said that. haha

msgross · 08-01-2014, 07:21 PM

We use to have a similar pump on our Farm in Indiana... wish I would have grabbed it before everything was auctioned off.

warbucket · 08-01-2014, 07:56 PM

Nice job Jim, Ounce my blazer is ready for the highway I'll bring it up to your place. I also have to run it up to Jay's house too.

**jaros44sr** · 08-01-2014, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgross

We use to have a similar pump on our Farm in Indiana... wish I would have grabbed it before everything was auctioned off.

Seems like we all have 20/20 hindsight

nice job on your new mancave, a pump wouldve looked perfect out in front....
Whens the electric get done?

Quote:

Originally Posted by warbucket

Nice job Jim, Ounce my blazer is ready for the highway I'll bring it up to your place. I also have to run it up to Jay's house too.

Thanks john...anytime your ready, still have some bugs to work out?

05-04-2014, 01:18 AM	#2301
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05-05-2014, 03:12 PM	#2302
mtully79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 441	Re: PO has me PO'd Late congratulations, I hope there aren't too many diamonds...

05-07-2014, 12:48 PM	#2303
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Thanks guys, great of you to check in.....sorry, but yeah, could of bought lots of rusty truck parts if i didnt buy those diamonds. Working on injection harness, the part number for the FAST male terminal is #170260. Using the delphi tool in the pic will release them from the connecter... 20140507_115616 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

05-11-2014, 10:25 AM	#2304
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd COP/CNP 20140511_101912 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

05-14-2014, 12:24 PM	#2305
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Worked on the injector harness, one side almost done. Much better in my opinion then the split plastic XIM/with harness is on the way from FAST OEM CNP brackets are just not working out, have to make something better 20140514_121524 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 05-14-2014 at 12:31 PM.

05-14-2014, 09:33 PM	#2306
SONOSADSACK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 301	Re: PO has me PO'd Really looks good Jim. Big improvement over the plastic stuff. I wish I would have considered other options before I covered everything.

05-20-2014, 02:00 PM	#2308
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Got the XIM and E dash in the mail today, now the fun begins, again..... 20140520_135439 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

06-07-2014, 02:37 PM	#2309
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Stuck in electrical prison.... Trying to repin my XIM 30 pin connector, but the sucker wont come out. Its a differant connector then what im used to working with. 20140607_141002 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

06-08-2014, 10:16 AM	#2310
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd After two fustrating days i finally got the pin out, now just waiting for new ones from FAST 20140608_100817 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

06-09-2014, 12:57 AM	#2311
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: PO has me PO'd Did you use a special tool or just what you had? __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

06-09-2014, 10:19 AM	#2313
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Kinda hard to see, but the tang (T) is located in the dark shadowy area. I think the key is to pull on the wire, and then come in at a steep down angle with the tool to catch the (T) and pry up..... The (T) im talking about has three horizontal white lines in it on the pic. I dont know if you have a tablet, but if blow up the pic, it becomes obvious where and what this 'T' looks like 20140609_100637 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 06-09-2014 at 10:31 AM.

06-09-2014, 06:17 PM	#2315
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Dang it, i mean vertical lines...... __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

06-20-2014, 11:42 PM	#2318
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,763	Re: PO has me PO'd Ok, this is as much as i know on the subject..... Looking at the pins, they have a release tang on the bottom and you can access it through the wire side, and push the pin forward. There is no way that i can see to take the pin back into the connector b/c there are to very little nubs at the top of the pin that keep it from going in the direction of the wire. The End This is FAST's part number, but you should be able to cross referance it to a delphi part number 20140619_135952 by james_jaros, on Flickr You can see the tang hanging down, in this pic. better, that has to be depressed to remove pin 20140619_131809 by james_jaros, on Flickr __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 06-20-2014 at 11:47 PM.

07-31-2014, 04:53 PM	#2319
mtully79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 441	Re: PO has me PO'd How's the progress Jim?

08-01-2014, 02:54 PM	#2321
mtully79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 441	Re: PO has me PO'd Pump is a nice touch, it's the little victories that count after all. Tires will look great on the truck, I'm curious to see how your poll turns out. Any progress is good progress! Enjoy the rest of the summer.



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08-01-2014, 07:21 PM	#2323
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: PO has me PO'd We use to have a similar pump on our Farm in Indiana... wish I would have grabbed it before everything was auctioned off. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

08-01-2014, 07:56 PM	#2324
warbucket Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Havertown Pa Posts: 392	Re: PO has me PO'd Nice job Jim, Ounce my blazer is ready for the highway I'll bring it up to your place. I also have to run it up to Jay's house too. __________________ 72 CST 4x4 Blazer, 1 ton 70 SS Chevelle, L78, 396 Everytime someone calls your Blazer a Bronco, God kills a kitten.

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