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bad_turbo · 10-13-2006, 11:48 PM

just saved a 67 burb 4x4 from the crusher and don't really know much about them. Does the front driveshaft always turn, even out of four wheel drive. The truck is all stock, apparently, and has no indicators on the 4 wheel shifter so I'm not sure what position it is in. It has the inline 6, 250 cu., with a 4 speed. It is a half ton.
Was also wondering is I could swap in a mid 70's to mid 80's 3/4 ton axles and suspension without to many modifications to the frame. Does it have to be from another suburban or would a truck work? Thanks in advance.

P.S. I also need some tail light lenses if anyone knows where to acquire some.

da-burb · 10-14-2006, 12:32 AM

Congrats on the 67 4x4. You have a vehicle with very low production #'s made.
Your transfer case should be a Rockwell 221. Sorry, I don't know the shift pattern. Just guessing it should be one of these 2 patterns. 4H, 2H, N, 4L or 4L, N, 2H, 4H. With your transfer case in Neutral and your hubs unlocked you will be able to rotate the drive shaft by hand.
You can easily swap out axles for more modern drivetrane parts. Any 1971-1980+++ truck, blazer, or suburban parts will fit. 71+ will give you front disc brakes.

Enjoy your burb.

*trkklr77* · 10-14-2006, 12:47 AM

alot of times your front shaft will turn from drag created by the hubs and tcase. they wont be engaged but the oil and grease and goo will rub on the out puts and the hub-stubs and cause the front shaft and axle shafts turn slowly. also be sure that your hubs are unlocking, any grease on the locking hub gut will get crusty and foul very fast and cause it not to dissengage.

RANDY COX · 10-14-2006, 10:46 AM

Congrats on your new (old) burb,

bad_turbo · 10-14-2006, 05:40 PM

Thanks for all the advice and welcome guys! Do we have a web page that lists all the production numbers of our burbs?

RANDY COX · 10-14-2006, 08:54 PM

Sure would like to see some pixs of your new ride.Thanks Randy

bad_turbo · 10-14-2006, 10:45 PM

did all these old burbs have wood for the rear cargo area. Mine looks like it had a 3rd seat attached there, too, originally.

bad_turbo · 10-15-2006, 12:10 AM

how do I read this from the FAQ? Just want to know the production numbers for my burb.

1/2-Ton Commercial 4x4 - Model K/Series 10 - 127-in. w.b
MODEL BODY TYPE PRICE WEIGHT PROD.TOTAL
KS10903 Chassis & Cab - - 41
KS10934 Fleetside 8ft 3088 - 2715
KS10904 Step-Side 8ft 3051 - 500
KS10905 Panel 3422 - 30
KS10906 Suburban 3666 3670 166

RANDY COX · 10-15-2006, 10:33 AM

Yes to answer your question about wood flooring Yes they all had wooden floors,I believe the panels had wooden floors like the trucks did with the metal slats.Any pixs yet,Randy

bad_turbo · 10-16-2006, 02:35 AM

thanks for all the answers guys. Heres a pic when I first got my burb a couple weeks ago. Sorry about the quality, I just have a cell phone::

72LoBurb · 10-16-2006, 09:28 PM

Welcome and congrats on the 'burb.

That looks like a good project, but that looks to be a 69 or 70 front clip on it.

As far as tail light lenses, check with some of the board's vendors....'m sure one of them can help you.

qksilver · 10-16-2006, 09:45 PM

Does it have side markers in the rear? I can't tell by the picture.
Nice find

84 400 · 10-16-2006, 09:46 PM

nice burb man

bad_turbo · 10-19-2006, 01:45 AM

yah the front clip is off of something newer, and apparently the motor is too. I'll have to check tomorrow on the rear marker lights. Does anyone know how to identify the trans? The code on the gloebox door says: 04M20GQ

Thanks for all your help guys!

bad_turbo · 10-19-2006, 02:04 AM

this burb needs a front seat. Will a truck front seat work and, if so, from what years? Also how to I tell if it came with a third seat? Did these old burbs have third seats? Thanks

**53burb** · 10-21-2006, 07:50 PM

I am pretty sure the truck front seats from the same years are the same. Usually, on the glove box sticker, it will say if the Burb originally had a third seat. All Burbs, from when they started in the 30's were available with the third seat.

bad_turbo · 10-21-2006, 08:40 PM

the code on the glovebox says rear seat eq #04AS3AA. Not sure what that means.

10-13-2006, 11:48 PM	#1
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	67 burb questions just saved a 67 burb 4x4 from the crusher and don't really know much about them. Does the front driveshaft always turn, even out of four wheel drive. The truck is all stock, apparently, and has no indicators on the 4 wheel shifter so I'm not sure what position it is in. It has the inline 6, 250 cu., with a 4 speed. It is a half ton. Was also wondering is I could swap in a mid 70's to mid 80's 3/4 ton axles and suspension without to many modifications to the frame. Does it have to be from another suburban or would a truck work? Thanks in advance. P.S. I also need some tail light lenses if anyone knows where to acquire some. __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting " Last edited by bad_turbo; 10-14-2006 at 12:24 AM.

10-14-2006, 12:32 AM	#2
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	Re: 67 burb questions Congrats on the 67 4x4. You have a vehicle with very low production #'s made. Your transfer case should be a Rockwell 221. Sorry, I don't know the shift pattern. Just guessing it should be one of these 2 patterns. 4H, 2H, N, 4L or 4L, N, 2H, 4H. With your transfer case in Neutral and your hubs unlocked you will be able to rotate the drive shaft by hand. You can easily swap out axles for more modern drivetrane parts. Any 1971-1980+++ truck, blazer, or suburban parts will fit. 71+ will give you front disc brakes. Enjoy your burb. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

10-14-2006, 12:47 AM	#3
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: 67 burb questions alot of times your front shaft will turn from drag created by the hubs and tcase. they wont be engaged but the oil and grease and goo will rub on the out puts and the hub-stubs and cause the front shaft and axle shafts turn slowly. also be sure that your hubs are unlocking, any grease on the locking hub gut will get crusty and foul very fast and cause it not to dissengage.

10-14-2006, 10:46 AM	#4
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 67 burb questions Congrats on your new (old) burb, __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

10-14-2006, 05:40 PM	#5
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions Thanks for all the advice and welcome guys! Do we have a web page that lists all the production numbers of our burbs? __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

10-14-2006, 08:54 PM	#6
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 67 burb questions Sure would like to see some pixs of your new ride.Thanks Randy __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

10-14-2006, 10:45 PM	#7
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions did all these old burbs have wood for the rear cargo area. Mine looks like it had a 3rd seat attached there, too, originally. __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

10-15-2006, 12:10 AM	#8
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions how do I read this from the FAQ? Just want to know the production numbers for my burb. 1/2-Ton Commercial 4x4 - Model K/Series 10 - 127-in. w.b MODEL BODY TYPE PRICE WEIGHT PROD.TOTAL KS10903 Chassis & Cab - - 41 KS10934 Fleetside 8ft 3088 - 2715 KS10904 Step-Side 8ft 3051 - 500 KS10905 Panel 3422 - 30 KS10906 Suburban 3666 3670 166 __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

10-15-2006, 10:33 AM	#9
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 67 burb questions Yes to answer your question about wood flooring Yes they all had wooden floors,I believe the panels had wooden floors like the trucks did with the metal slats.Any pixs yet,Randy __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

10-16-2006, 02:35 AM	#10
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions thanks for all the answers guys. Heres a pic when I first got my burb a couple weeks ago. Sorry about the quality, I just have a cell phone:: Attached Images __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

10-16-2006, 09:28 PM	#11
72LoBurb Yup, I'm comp-useless Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton,Alta,Canada Posts: 360	Re: 67 burb questions Welcome and congrats on the 'burb. That looks like a good project, but that looks to be a 69 or 70 front clip on it. As far as tail light lenses, check with some of the board's vendors....'m sure one of them can help you.

10-16-2006, 09:45 PM	#12
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: 67 burb questions Does it have side markers in the rear? I can't tell by the picture. Nice find

10-16-2006, 09:46 PM	#13
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: 67 burb questions nice burb man __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

10-19-2006, 01:45 AM	#14
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions yah the front clip is off of something newer, and apparently the motor is too. I'll have to check tomorrow on the rear marker lights. Does anyone know how to identify the trans? The code on the gloebox door says: 04M20GQ Thanks for all your help guys! __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

10-19-2006, 02:04 AM	#15
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions this burb needs a front seat. Will a truck front seat work and, if so, from what years? Also how to I tell if it came with a third seat? Did these old burbs have third seats? Thanks __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "



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10-21-2006, 07:50 PM	#16
53burb Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 1,010	Re: 67 burb questions I am pretty sure the truck front seats from the same years are the same. Usually, on the glove box sticker, it will say if the Burb originally had a third seat. All Burbs, from when they started in the 30's were available with the third seat.

10-21-2006, 08:40 PM	#17
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: 67 burb questions the code on the glovebox says rear seat eq #04AS3AA. Not sure what that means. __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

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