Cab Support Question

[ol Curt]

I am working my way (slowly) toward putting my cab support(front) back in. I ran into some trouble tonight when I found the main brace had a hole rusted thru where the old support fastened. I welded a small piece to that to support it.

My camera batteries go dead just when I need them the most. I need to buy a new set of rechargeables. I have it charging now. My question is about the new support. On the inboard side there are two pieces or tabs that look like they would easily fold out at 90's and then be welded to the main brace. It would be a lot stronger that way and I think line up better as well. Is that typical to bend those out? It looks like the originals were made that way. When I get some pics up later it may make more sense.

[ol Curt]

Oh yeah, I forgot.....as my wife says, "and another thing"

Didn't one of you have a floor pan that the mounting hole for the bolt was off about 1/2"? Mine looks like it will be. I just wanted to see how that worked out for you. It night have been Alan, so I'm going to search through his build and see if I can find it.

[ol Curt]

Damn, didn't think I would get the batteries charged, photos snapped and loaded on here before a member of the posse caught me, but I may have made it. The first pic is of the tabs I question if they should be bent outward at a 90 and the second is of the hole in the main brace.

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[joe231]

your safe this time

Alan is who had the mount bolt alignment issue.......
looks like you are right about those tabs, that is just my un-informed opinion

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ol Curt

Oh yeah, I forgot.....as my wife says, "and another thing"

Didn't one of you have a floor pan that the mounting hole for the bolt was off about 1/2"? Mine looks like it will be. I just wanted to see how that worked out for you. It night have been Alan, so I'm going to search through his build and see if I can find it.

Yeah it's me. As far as the tabs went, I just cut them off to length and butt welded it. Did you find the pix you needed? I only had the problem with the hole location on the drivers side.



This might not be the best way to do it, but that is the way it is. I think it will be fine. It has several more welds where I drilled out the old spot welds.

[ol Curt]

Thanks Alan, as always, you helped a bunch!!

[LILRED66]

Two thumbs up Alan.

Bob, it looks like you are making steady progress. Nice job.

[jason65]

Yea!! Progress for Ol Curt. But we will need more pics.

[ol Curt]

Originally Posted by jason65

Yea!! Progress for Ol Curt. But we will need more pics.

I'm workin on it!!
The pics are almost like the truck itself. When I have time, I have no money. When I have money....you know the rest. When I am working and into it, I forget to take pics. When I decide to take some, the batteries are dead!!

[ol Curt]

I do have one question. I am replacing the bottom piece of the A pillar. It would seem like it would restrict the space to have it back on first, but I suspect having that piece and any part of the kick panel that needs replacing on prior to the cab support would give a good references. I did fit and mark the location for the new pillar patch before removing what was left of the old. Is my reasoning sound here??

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by ol Curt

I do have one question. I am replacing the bottom piece of the A pillar. It would seem like it would restrict the space to have it back on first, but I suspect having that piece and any part of the kick panel that needs replacing on prior to the cab support would give a good references. I did fit and mark the location for the new pillar patch before removing what was left of the old. Is my reasoning sound here??

As long as you have good reference points and measure, you can do what ever is the easiest. Your outer rocker will give you a good lenght measurement. All you should have to worry about is width and height. I always tack stuff in place with screws or tach welds and test fit.

[ol Curt]

Well, after I got through finaggling and trimming bits off of the pan to fit it around the jack mounting hardware my hole lined up. I was able to get enough cut out to clean up all along the main brace and hopefully tomorrow will take some pics, cut out and weld in patch for kick panel and tack the A pillar patch on in preparation for fitting the floor up. I can already see I will need one more patch panel for the rear of this side, so I'll have to get that ordered.

I'm pooped!! It sure is a lot more work and takes a lot longer to do this than the guy in the video. I'm tired enough I'm going to stop before I make a mistake or do something silly safety wise.

[ol Curt]

Looking at this rear floor piece i will need and have a few questions. This will not come far enough forward to butt against the front section of floor pan. Will I need to put a piece of regular inner rocker between the two and just try to match them up? The outer most part of the floor pan patches is actually the inner rocker, correct?

http://www.tri-proautomotive.com/ser...b-floor/Detail

[ol Curt]

Oh brother! Or...do I need to get this one?
http://www.classicparts.com/1960-66-...ctinfo/45-933/

[ol Curt]

All together now.....hmmmmm

[Alan's Classic]

I can picture your delimma(sp) in my head. Line everything up on the A & B post where you know it's suppose to be and fill in where neccessary. I had to do alot of head scratching trying to figure out easiest way. I thought I saw somewhere on the forum a complete side pach panel that runs along the side from the firewall back to the back panel. Maybe someone else has seen it. I know you already have some panels on hand. If I run across it I post it here.

[joe231]

like this
http://www.classicparts.com/1960-72-...ctinfo/44-439/

[ol Curt]

Ok, I'm going to try to do a better job of describing it with a set of pics.

Pic A shows what i have cut out now and hope to replace on the front








Pic B I have rust along the edge of the floor pan, but also around the seat belt fastening location of the floor.






PicC My front floor pan would sit in here and end at this point. I need something to continue that, or does the full inner rocker go inside this?






PicD I have a full inner rocker as shown. Do I just leave the front part attached to the floor and continue the inner rocker from there? I think part of my confusion is the shape at the top of the inner rocker versus the part of what I think is inner rocker that is attached to the floor pan, as the inner rocker is turned up and the floor part just bends around and becomes floor because it is one piece.



Hope all that makes sense!

[joe231]

I'm

[ol Curt]

Well that makes two of us!! Does the inner rocker piece go under the floor pan piece where it turns downward? I could look at the other side and get a better picture in my mind, but my dad has it so fiberglassed and bondoed up, I can't tell what's what.

[joe231]

here is one of Alan's pics

is this what your are asking...you can see where the new pan and the inner rocker but together.

I think you need this
http://www.classicparts.com/1960-66-...ctinfo/45-934/



might make thing easier

[ol Curt]

I think you are right about that part!! As I look at Alans pic it makes a little more sense. Where he has extended the inner rocker piece from the floor pan....does the top of that inner rocker just get ground down level with the floor and then welded to the floor? I think the inner rocker I have would stick up above the floor. You can't really tell it in this pic, but the inner most vertical part of the rocker sticks up about 1/8" above the floor. I keep hearing people refer to the door seal fastening to that part and I'm confused about that.

[joe231]

your door seals go on the outer rocker, there is a raised part on it...
the inner needs to move down so you can weld it to the floor and create a step-down

[ol Curt]

OK, now I see, said the blind man! So the inner rocker really doesn't sit on the lip of the floor like I have it in the last picture, it takes the place of it? Right? I know there is only one person who hopes I now have it correct more than you.......ME

I have to go coach a soccer practice this afternoon so I can make some money for more parts, then hopefully back to work on it tomorrow night. The part from Classic looks like it would really be helpful, bu, I bet if I could slide it all the way back and just make and weld in a patch over the hole where the seat belt fastens it would be just fine for a driver.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by joe231

I think you need this
http://www.classicparts.com/1960-66-...ctinfo/45-934/



might make thing easier

Thanks Joe that was what I was talking about. I personally didn't use it, but kind of wish I gave it a shot.