Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Frizzle Fry · 07-08-2009, 01:15 PM

I've been thinking about this for my 64. I'd really like to go back to chromed factory hubcaps, but would like to put them on some 17, 18, or 20's with WWW's. Anyone done this or have any suggestions as to which wheels might make good candidates? I'll be willing to attempt welding on the clips unless there is a wheel that already has them in the right radius.

protrash64 · 07-08-2009, 01:21 PM

Cool idea, Frizzle. I'd like to know where to get the big diameter steel wheels. Back in the day, 17'' was it. Now the OEM's have big steel hoops for spares, but I havent seen the wheel shops advertising any. I'd love an 18'' pick-up Rally.

Frizzle Fry · 07-08-2009, 02:04 PM

I've seen the new Dodge Ram spares. They are 20" but have a bunch of holes that would be a PITA to fill.

Frizzle Fry · 07-08-2009, 02:10 PM

hmmmmm.... expo

6x135mm ...so close. Ours is 6x139.7mm so it's off by ~2.5mm per hole. Might be a good candidate for a redrill depending on backspacing...

protrash64 · 07-08-2009, 03:15 PM

I saw a Dodge running the steel wheels and thought they were not very good looking. I dont care for the big positive hump around the lugs. I wonder if they could be reversed?

SCOTI · 07-08-2009, 05:18 PM

I wanted to do this on my RetroRod 67 project but have since changed my mind. Why?? When I was out west in '07 (hangin' out w/Porter, Dino, & a few other board members @ the GG's show), there was a 67-68 short fleet @ the show w/some solid billet wheels with 'poverty' caps attached. I remembered seeing the truck in print from some show coverage (SEMA??) & thought it looked kind of cool. In person . . .... not so much. The size of the poverty caps looks out of proportion when placed in the center of the large diameter wheels. This particular set-up was even worse because of the 'crude' method used for attaching the caps.

12" brakes look puny behind a 20" wheel; 10 1/8" caps in front of the wheel suffer the same fate IMO.

There's nothin' wrong w/some poverty caps on some 15's though

. . ....

chevytrucknut · 07-08-2009, 05:39 PM

I saw a 60-62 c10 swb that was at Billetproof in Washington that was in the parking lot and it had 20 inch steelies. The guy said that he had to drill the holes out. They looked cool.

protrash64 · 07-08-2009, 07:19 PM

I had PM'd another member who had the Dodge steel wheels, 20's, and he said the backspace was 6''. He used adaptors to bolt them up. FYI

**aerotruk63** · 07-08-2009, 07:55 PM

17.5" X 5.25" 6 lug were an option on 1960-66 Chev GMC C,K and P10 models. On 3/4+ you could get 19.5" 8 lug. If you could do the adapter thing you could have the center portion of the original 19.5" welded to the ring of the 20" Dodge steel wheel. Weld spacers to your original center then turn the center on a lathe till it matches the inner diameter of the 20" ring. Weld the two together and you've got a wicked original style rim. http://www.dvap.com/ had some 19.5" rims last time I was there. http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/

**aerotruk63** · 07-08-2009, 08:00 PM

1964 Truck Tires and Wheels

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Frizzle Fry · 07-08-2009, 08:41 PM

Good info guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

12" brakes look puny behind a 20" wheel; 10 1/8" caps in front of the wheel suffer the same fate IMO.

Yeah, I'd like to see it. 17's might be the ticket.

jonzcustomshop · 07-08-2009, 08:55 PM

check out this link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=244882

IMO the conversion will not look right unless the wheel used hase a (reverse?) offset, the wheels that are on modern vehicles,like the one in post 4 are too flat to look like a stock wheel.

70 Suburban · 07-08-2009, 09:32 PM

thanks jon grreat post

GRIMSS · 07-08-2009, 10:29 PM

Here's my dodge wheel I'm testing on filling.

mounted on axle.

and here under my panel.

70 Suburban · 07-08-2009, 10:31 PM

not a bad look. I wonder about the 6 lug

SCOTI · 07-08-2009, 10:44 PM

The 'artillery' looking set-up works.

protrash64 · 07-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

The 'artillery' looking set-up works.

I also like the caps on that ambulance. Kinda/sorta reminds me of the old Caddy hubcaps people used to run on customs back in the day.

I guess the smoothies could be powder coated, like project old school.

Frizzle Fry · 07-09-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

check out this link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=244882

I remember that. Probably where I got the idea. Yeah, powdercoated smoothies would be sweet. More $$$ though...

**lolife99** · 07-09-2009, 06:04 PM

This Chevy II was at Des Moines Iowa Goodguys last weekend.
It had 17" Wheel Vintiques wheels with '67 flat caps installed on them. I'm not sure how he did it,... but it made for a different look.

**aerotruk63** · 07-09-2009, 06:54 PM

Original 17.5 Inch Rim.

70 Suburban · 07-09-2009, 09:18 PM

aww no see picy

Blitz · 09-04-2009, 03:13 PM

I missed this before. Nice stuff.

astrochimp · 09-04-2009, 05:51 PM

Are there any OEM steels that fit in a 16" or 17"

Looks are not that important, I would run spun disc.

SeanPaintsFlames · 09-05-2009, 12:21 AM

Hmm- what about balancing that wheel with a tire on it after all that welding, grinding, and filling those big holes? Worried about it at all? I admire your commitment!!

07-08-2009, 01:15 PM	#1
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I've been thinking about this for my 64. I'd really like to go back to chromed factory hubcaps, but would like to put them on some 17, 18, or 20's with WWW's. Anyone done this or have any suggestions as to which wheels might make good candidates? I'll be willing to attempt welding on the clips unless there is a wheel that already has them in the right radius.

07-08-2009, 01:21 PM	#2
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? Cool idea, Frizzle. I'd like to know where to get the big diameter steel wheels. Back in the day, 17'' was it. Now the OEM's have big steel hoops for spares, but I havent seen the wheel shops advertising any. I'd love an 18'' pick-up Rally. __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

07-08-2009, 02:04 PM	#3
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I've seen the new Dodge Ram spares. They are 20" but have a bunch of holes that would be a PITA to fill. Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 07-08-2009 at 02:05 PM.

07-08-2009, 02:10 PM	#4
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? hmmmmm.... expo 6x135mm ...so close. Ours is 6x139.7mm so it's off by ~2.5mm per hole. Might be a good candidate for a redrill depending on backspacing... Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 07-08-2009 at 02:52 PM.

07-08-2009, 03:15 PM	#5
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I saw a Dodge running the steel wheels and thought they were not very good looking. I dont care for the big positive hump around the lugs. I wonder if they could be reversed? __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

07-08-2009, 05:18 PM	#6
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,066	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I wanted to do this on my RetroRod 67 project but have since changed my mind. Why?? When I was out west in '07 (hangin' out w/Porter, Dino, & a few other board members @ the GG's show), there was a 67-68 short fleet @ the show w/some solid billet wheels with 'poverty' caps attached. I remembered seeing the truck in print from some show coverage (SEMA??) & thought it looked kind of cool. In person . . .... not so much. The size of the poverty caps looks out of proportion when placed in the center of the large diameter wheels. This particular set-up was even worse because of the 'crude' method used for attaching the caps. 12" brakes look puny behind a 20" wheel; 10 1/8" caps in front of the wheel suffer the same fate IMO. There's nothin' wrong w/some poverty caps on some 15's though . . .... __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

07-08-2009, 05:39 PM	#7
chevytrucknut Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Battleground, Washington Posts: 177	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I saw a 60-62 c10 swb that was at Billetproof in Washington that was in the parking lot and it had 20 inch steelies. The guy said that he had to drill the holes out. They looked cool. Attached Images __________________ '77 GMC SWB '66 SNB (Project) Battle Ground, WA

07-08-2009, 07:19 PM	#8
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I had PM'd another member who had the Dodge steel wheels, 20's, and he said the backspace was 6''. He used adaptors to bolt them up. FYI __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

07-08-2009, 07:55 PM	#9
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? 17.5" X 5.25" 6 lug were an option on 1960-66 Chev GMC C,K and P10 models. On 3/4+ you could get 19.5" 8 lug. If you could do the adapter thing you could have the center portion of the original 19.5" welded to the ring of the 20" Dodge steel wheel. Weld spacers to your original center then turn the center on a lathe till it matches the inner diameter of the 20" ring. Weld the two together and you've got a wicked original style rim. http://www.dvap.com/ had some 19.5" rims last time I was there. http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/ __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

07-08-2009, 08:00 PM	#10
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? 1964 Truck Tires and Wheels http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

07-08-2009, 08:55 PM	#12
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? check out this link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=244882 IMO the conversion will not look right unless the wheel used hase a (reverse?) offset, the wheels that are on modern vehicles,like the one in post 4 are too flat to look like a stock wheel.

07-08-2009, 09:32 PM	#13
70 Suburban Rods Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 1,398	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? thanks jon grreat post __________________ Just keepin it simple. 1965 C-10 Ext cab build. 350??(Does it count at 2 truck if I had to cut one up?) 1966 C-10 lwb 283 auto 1970 Suburban in pieces 1971 Blazer 4wd....restore someday. all factory CST 1972 Blazer 4wd parts truck still a roller 1972 GMC Sierra Grandee 1998 Chevy ext driver. 2005 F**D the wife drive...(cant fix women)

07-08-2009, 10:29 PM	#14
GRIMSS --------------- Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 1,791	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? Here's my dodge wheel I'm testing on filling. mounted on axle. and here under my panel. __________________ 2001 GMC SIERRA 1956 Chevy Panel *Build Page* with a Scott's Hotrods IFS 1953 Chevy trucks *Project Dime Time* 1968 Camaro 1968 Volksrod "NOBACK" 55-59 one piece window *Video* 55-59 one piece window *template files* Jared

07-08-2009, 10:31 PM	#15
70 Suburban Rods Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 1,398	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? not a bad look. I wonder about the 6 lug __________________ Just keepin it simple. 1965 C-10 Ext cab build. 350??(Does it count at 2 truck if I had to cut one up?) 1966 C-10 lwb 283 auto 1970 Suburban in pieces 1971 Blazer 4wd....restore someday. all factory CST 1972 Blazer 4wd parts truck still a roller 1972 GMC Sierra Grandee 1998 Chevy ext driver. 2005 F**D the wife drive...(cant fix women)

07-08-2009, 10:44 PM	#16
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,066	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? The 'artillery' looking set-up works. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*



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07-09-2009, 06:04 PM	#19
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? This Chevy II was at Des Moines Iowa Goodguys last weekend. It had 17" Wheel Vintiques wheels with '67 flat caps installed on them. I'm not sure how he did it,... but it made for a different look. Attached Images __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

07-09-2009, 06:54 PM	#20
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? Original 17.5 Inch Rim. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

07-09-2009, 09:18 PM	#21
70 Suburban Rods Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 1,398	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? aww no see picy __________________ Just keepin it simple. 1965 C-10 Ext cab build. 350??(Does it count at 2 truck if I had to cut one up?) 1966 C-10 lwb 283 auto 1970 Suburban in pieces 1971 Blazer 4wd....restore someday. all factory CST 1972 Blazer 4wd parts truck still a roller 1972 GMC Sierra Grandee 1998 Chevy ext driver. 2005 F**D the wife drive...(cant fix women)

09-04-2009, 03:13 PM	#22
Blitz Mr. Thread Killer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 388	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? I missed this before. Nice stuff.

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astrochimp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Unionville Mo. Posts: 217	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? Are there any OEM steels that fit in a 16" or 17" Looks are not that important, I would run spun disc.

09-05-2009, 12:21 AM	#24
SeanPaintsFlames Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Buford, Ga. Posts: 339	Re: Factory Hubcaps on Oversized Wheels? Hmm- what about balancing that wheel with a tire on it after all that welding, grinding, and filling those big holes? Worried about it at all? I admire your commitment!! __________________ My 68 cougar restomod build:HERE Last edited by SeanPaintsFlames; 09-05-2009 at 12:22 AM.

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