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07-27-2010, 10:22 PM | #1 |
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Cheap way to do a rake?
I was wondering what the cheapest way to do a rake is, I've got a 64 GMC and looking to lower the front. I'm putting the truck together cheaply, and I would like to give it a little rake.... whats the best way to go about that? Cut the coils? Buy Jeep coils that I read about?
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07-27-2010, 11:40 PM | #2 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
I have a set of 2" Bell Tech drop springs that I'm not going to use. They have about 500 miles on them. We could work out a deal, just PM me.
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07-27-2010, 11:42 PM | #3 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
not the best way but as a last resort you could cut or heat the coils
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07-28-2010, 02:46 AM | #4 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
I cut 1 coil on my 66 gmc 3/4 ton - loved the rake and the ride.
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07-28-2010, 04:56 AM | #5 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
Cutting coils is usually the cheapest way to lower a vehicle. If you only cut 1 coil from the spring, a change in ride is not very likely to be noticible. I cut one off of the front coil of my '79 Camaro. The aftermarket suspension I bought left it sagging in the rear, and I cannot stand that look. Cut the 1 coil, got the front just a little lower than the rear, and the ride is still as good as it was before. I recommend using a saw or cut-off wheel to cut the spring, heating coils with a torch tends to change the characteristics of the spring a bit too much.
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07-28-2010, 07:17 AM | #6 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
My 63 w/ 1.5 coils cut up front and 70 Chevelle springs in the rear. Cheap and easy.
And, I agree, don't heat coils. It weakens them and you don't have much control over how much they will sag.
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02-13-2011, 12:00 AM | #7 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
So the Chevelle springs create an automatic lowering in the back? How much? There's nothing else to it? Thanks.
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02-13-2011, 09:48 PM | #10 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
And what does this do to handling/ suspension?
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02-13-2011, 10:03 PM | #11 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
Drop spindles will run you into disc brakes and that aint cheap (not expensive either if you do it right)
S-10 springs worked for me until I got the bug to go lower. The rear you can use Jeep springs (not remembering which ones though) lowering blocks would also be pretty cheap.
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02-14-2011, 01:54 AM | #12 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
Jack up, compress front spring, unbolt the two u-bolts on the frame side, remove & lower the lower A arm and pull out spring. Measure exactly 1 or 1 1/2 coil and cut it off. Then, re-install it all. Repeat for other side. Cost- rent spring compressor, time, tools. Results-killer rake.
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
I'm getting ready to do my 72 C10 LWB and I'm thinking cut 1 1/2 springs in the front and block lower it in the back? Anybody see a problem with this? I have a pretty decent (about 400 hp) motor and trans for it, and I want to be sure I maintain handling during accelerating and light cornering/ course correction. I've been building motors and trans a long time, but I'm a newcomer to suspension modifications. Thanks for any help you can offer, guys. I'm trying to get about 2-3 inches out of this.
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
Careful with the cut coils. I did that to my 65 before baggin it and it rode rough as hell. Maybe if you use lighter coils and they compress more with out cutting would be better.
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02-15-2011, 12:50 AM | #15 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
Thanks, Steve. I suspected as much. So, you think I would be better off maybe going to the parts store and matching coils that are shorter with a similar load rating and responsiveness and then just block the back for a moderate rake? No foreseeable issues with steering or handling? Or other concerns that I'm not even aware of yet? As I mentioned above, I've been building motors and trans my whole life, but never really delved into suspension. Thanks.
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02-15-2011, 02:16 AM | #16 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
I cut the front coils it handles ok but the ride is rough.
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02-15-2011, 03:30 AM | #17 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
if you cut the coils, use a cut-off blade not torch or plasma. heat will kill springs.
any time you cut a coil spring you raise the spring rate (make it stiffer) good info here: http://www.eatonsprings.com/cuttingcoilsprings.html |
02-15-2011, 08:45 PM | #18 |
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Re: Cheap way to do a rake?
I used 2 inch lowering springs on front and 4 inch on rear wasn,t happy with look so cut one coil off front sits nice and rides nice.
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