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Old 02-05-2011, 05:27 PM   #1
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WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

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I am thinking of a new intake manifold for my 65 C10. It has a bored 350 with a S.P.2.P Edelbrock intake manifold and a 600cfm Edelbrock carb. Rest is mostly stock.

One of my part dealers told me that Edelbrock is producing in China since a couple of years and has a few quality issues because of that. He also told me that WEIAND would be the better choice because of better quality. So I am a bit confused if I should go for a WEIAND or Edelbrock intake.

I really would appreciate to receive your feedback and experiences on that.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:06 PM   #2
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

I bought the WEIAND air strike from summit, sent it back, very cheaply made in china the ports were crude looking, I had them send me the RPM air gap HUGE difference plus it says right on top made it the USA, Holly bought out WEIAND and sub out the some of these to China
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:26 PM   #3
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I'm sure if Vic knew your parts dealer was telling people Edelbrock products were being made oversees, he would set him straight! Edelbrock prides themselves on "Made in America".
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i'm sure if vic knew your parts dealer was telling people edelbrock products were being made oversees, he would set him straight! Edelbrock prides themselves on "made in america".


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Thanks Guys.

So I go for an Edelbrock Performer or Performer Air Gap. Does anyone know if it is worth to spent the 100 bugs more for the Air Gap intake? I am not sure if it really deliveres more power than the standard Performer.

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Old 02-06-2011, 09:24 AM   #7
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Thanks Guys.

So I go for an Edelbrock Performer or Performer Air Gap. Does anyone know if it is worth to spent the 100 bugs more for the Air Gap intake? I am not sure if it really deliveres more power than the standard Performer.Thanks, Andreas
Recently there have been some really great discussions about Air Gap manifolds, including some dyno comparison videos, over on Chevy Talk's performance forum. I'll try to get a couple of links posted here shortly.

bottom line is, yes, they "make more power". question you have to honestly ask yourself is: "do they make this extra power where its useful to me, based to how I intend to drive".

Remember dyno tests do not measure throttle response and fuel mileage, factors hugely important in normal driving.

I currently have an RPM Air Gap. I am thinking of replacing it with something without the notch.
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

for your reading enjoyment (all of these tie together, sometimes drift off-topic):

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254755/

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254859/

this one has the videos:

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254821/

there was also a couple of threads that discussed heating the plenum on an air gap style manifold to make it more "street friendly"
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:39 PM   #9
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbrock... period

On a stock motor the Performer RPM is all the intake you will ever need and will be a huge improvement over the old SP2P you have now (which was a pretty good unit in its day).

I don't know if the air gap is worth the extra $$$
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:43 PM   #10
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Edelbbrock only and always for intake manifolds.

Holley only and always for carbuereters.
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

What is the difference between the Edelbrock Performer and the Performer EPS?
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What is the difference between the Edelbrock Performer and the Performer EPS?
The original can accommodate both square and spread bore carbs, while the eps is a square bore only. It also puts the carb a tad higher. The eps is advertised as getting a few more ponies and a bit more torque over the original.
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbrock.....I love the RPM line but as far as the Air Gap goes. Its a great performer as long as the engine gets up to temperature to heat the intake. Not a good intake for short drives. plus its a pain in the Ass to keep clean in the underside water and dirt and oil gets caught up in there. The lower dual plane RPM would be a better choice ....This is just one mans Option
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4 year old thread...

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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

4 year old thread, but still interesting information.
I'd rather see someone bump an old thread that might have some applicable information, than start a new thread on a topic that's been asked many times over.
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I'd rather see someone bump an old thread that might have some applicable information, than start a new thread on a topic that's been asked many times over.
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Funny thing is... a cat's question can usually get lost or skipped over when bumping an ancient thread. This one got "lucky".

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Our atmosphere here is a little more tolerant than other enthusiast sites. Some unnamed sites are very quick to flame when basic questions are raised that have been discussed in the past and the search function wasn't used. I find starting a new thread about a topic works best on this forum while also pasting the researched/supporting thread in the new one to work best. It seems to keep everyone informed as to what specifically the new thread is referring to as well as lets others know you do your homework.

With that said... who wants to argue over carburetors again?!?!?!
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Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

I'd love to see back to back dyno testing of the performer, EPS, RPM, and then the weiand examples. Seeing as the performer RPM is rated to work from 1500rpm and I don't know anyone really concerned with power at less then 1500rpm is there really a reason for the non-RPM version? As for quality Edelbrock never disappoints.
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I'd love to see back to back dyno testing of the performer, EPS, RPM, and then the weiand examples. Seeing as the performer RPM is rated to work from 1500rpm and I don't know anyone really concerned with power at less then 1500rpm is there really a reason for the non-RPM version? As for quality Edelbrock never disappoints.
I think the below 1500 concern is for city driving, mountainous terrain, launching boats, gravel roads, heavy traffic, hauling stuff etc. (You know, truck stuff) The lower rpm band manifolds also build their "peak" at a lower range which often times lands in the sweet spot for getting stuff done.

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I think the below 1500 concern is for city driving, mountainous terrain, launching boats, gravel roads, heavy traffic, hauling stuff etc. (You know, truck stuff) The lower rpm band manifolds also build their "peak" at a lower range which often times lands in the sweet spot for getting stuff done.
The problem is most carb'd small block trucks have a non-lockup automatic trans behind them and every oem convertor will stall over 1500rpm, meaning you never actually see the lower rpm.
Besides, truck stuff means big loads, meaning you need more power then idle rpm to get moving
My question was because many years back a mag did test a performer vs RPM in a low/stock HP setup and the RPM made more torque even below 2000rpm. I'd love to see the test on a less mild build.
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anybody ever come across a dyno comparison between the RPM and the Air Gap?
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