need some tips on putn a camaro subframe on 57 chevy pickup

[ashtray455]

getn ready to put an 79z28 subframe under my 57 3100 need some tips maybe some measurements where i should cut the frame anything well help thanks

[Maximus]

For all of the measurements I bought the DVD from No Limit engineering. They are a premium sponsor here too so can probably help you better if u buy the DVD and still have questions... Best money I have spent yet on my build.
You can also run the weary feature on subframe swap, theres like a dozen subframe threads

Good luck! The conversion is a rewarding one!
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[Maximus]

Hey just stumbled across this build thread, check out page 1, he shows some good photos/measurements

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=220256
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[Tri5Nerd]

Here is something directly for the No Limit folks, hopefully this will help.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=440771


Tri5

[azsnow]

I did a subfram swap on a 57 a couple of years ago and I almost went the same way as Nolimit, but for my taste, it sits way to low when done. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...amaro+subframe
I did the swap by follwing this post on HAMB, and it was awesome when I was done!

[Indian113]

Anybody seen these before?

These are a 57 with a camaro clip!!!

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by azsnow

I did a subfram swap on a 57 a couple of years ago and I almost went the same way as Nolimit, but for my taste, it sits way to low when done. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...amaro+subframe
I did the swap by follwing this post on HAMB, and it was awesome when I was done!

hmm Im a little confused by this... the way the HAMB link installed the subframe, actually makes the vehicle sit LOWER (if i'm not mistaken) than the No-limit install. the higher the subframe sits above the frame, the lower the truck will sit.
when I did the No-limit install my subframe was at the same level as the original frame, the method you mention, and also similarly shown by the post below yours, have the subframe sitting above the original frame, thus the wheels will be higher in the wheel well, dropping the truck front end.

Originally Posted by Indian113

Anybody seen these before?

These are a 57 with a camaro clip!!!

looks nice! just that method sits too low for me

[Kabwe]

Maximus,

You are correct it does make the truck lower (installing the clip under the frame) than the no limit way (even with the frame rails) because it does not have the kick up like when you install the clip with the unibody supports under the frame. I don't like getting in debates so I did not say anything, but since you said it first I thought I'd chime in.lol

By the way there is no such thing as too low.lol

[Indian113]

Just run TALLER TIRES!!!!!!

[ashtray455]

thanks everybody ill check it out thanks

[azsnow]

I stand corrected on the height issue after taking a peek at both methods.

[azsnow]

But for some reason my truck didn't seem to sit as low in the front as the no limit way. These trucks look good with a bit of a lowered stance, but IMO there is a point when it looks retarded.

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by azsnow

These trucks look good with a bit of a lowered stance, but IMO there is a point when it looks retarded.

Yeah, yeah and its people that feel the same about a truck that sits too high, so to each his own. When you say things like that it is insulting to a lot of people. If you don't like it simply don't do it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some guys like big women some like em small skinny legs and all.lol
But nobody is wrong about what they like.

[LDO]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Yeah, yeah and its people the feel the same about a truck that sits too high, so to each his own. When you say things like that it insults a lot of people. If you don't like it simply don't do it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some guys like big women some like em small skinny legs and all.lol
But nobody is wrong for what they like.

I like a skinny legged woman that sits low!

[meter swinger]

Originally Posted by Indian113

Anybody seen these before?

These are a 57 with a camaro clip!!!

never get tired of looking at these.
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[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by ldo

i like a skinny legged woman that sits low!

lol.

[mknittle]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Maximus,

You are correct it does make the truck lower (installing the clip under the frame) than the no limit way (even with the frame rails) because it does not have the kick up like when you install the clip with the unibody supports under the frame. I don't like getting in debates so I did not say anything, but since you said it first I thought I'd chime in.lol

By the way there is no such thing as too low.lol

Kabwe, my brother in-law has a disclaimer for the debaters.it goes something like this:
My opinion is just that.It is NOT open for debate.It is just my opinion!

[azsnow]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Yeah, yeah and its people that feel the same about a truck that sits too high, so to each his own. When you say things like that it insults a lot of people. If you don't like it simply don't do it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some guys like big women some like em small skinny legs and all.lol
But nobody is wrong about what they like.

Hence the reason I said IMO (In MY Opinion)
If you get offended that easy, perhaps you should be on the Discovery web site tonight voting for Paul Jr because it hurt your feelings that Jessie James cheated on Sandra.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by azsnow

Hence the reason I said IMO (In MY Opinion)
If you get offended that easy, perhaps you should be on the Discovery web site tonight voting for Paul Jr because it hurt your feelings that Jessie James cheated on Sandra.

I'm SURE Kabwe was not offended, he is just lookin out for others...
Anyways, back on topic...

Ashtray455, Which way are ya going with your front end conversion???

[55metalmonkey]

Originally Posted by Indian113

Anybody seen these before?

These are a 57 with a camaro clip!!!

looks familure

[Speedbumpauto]

It DID hurt my feelings. I gave him credit for being marginally smarter than that and it hurts when I'm wronge!

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by azsnow

Hence the reason I said IMO (In MY Opinion)
If you get offended that easy, perhaps you should be on the Discovery web site tonight voting for Paul Jr because it hurt your feelings that Jessie James cheated on Sandra.

Nope I'm not offended at all. There are a lot of people here that work very hard on their rides and like them low and even slammed to the ground on airbags. Those same people have a lot of knowledge, and comb this forum to try and help people. You've just called their rides "retarded looking". If you don't see that as a insult then that tells me something about you and there is no need to go back and forth on this.

The gentelman (original poster) asked for the facts. The fact is installing the clip with the unibody supports under the frame will give you a lower stance (with stock components) than if you installed it even with the frame rails. Its up to the original poster to decide what he is going to do now that he is armed with the information.

Originally Posted by Maximus

I'm SURE Kabwe was not offended, he is just lookin out for others...
Anyways, back on topic...

Ashtray455, Which way are ya going with your front end conversion???

You got that right. I'm a car nut and I like everything from stock to way out customs. I know how hard this stuff is to do on your own in your garage, people work very hard to build something they like and I think its very insulting to make a statement like "retarding looking" when a guy bust his a$$ to build his truck.

[ashtray455]

maxium havnt decided yet was lookn at one guys i like the way his had turned out where he slice a section out of thframe then sliced clip an welded it in , but still reserching it

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by ashtray455

maxium havnt decided yet was lookn at one guys i like the way his had turned out where he slice a section out of thframe then sliced clip an welded it in , but still reserching it

I think you are talking about the "no limit way" they sale a instruction dvd for 36.00 if you need it. Heres a link for you http://www.nolimitparts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=D-101

[ashtray455]

thanks kabwe man like ur truck lookn good