11-01-2013, 01:14 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: chillicothe, illinois
Posts: 690
|
Not sure what to do
So I finished my 70 lwb restoration. I really thought I wanted a big block hot rod truck. Well I find my self mad everytime I have to gas up. Its fast but I am not really enjoying it. I thought of selling it for something different or may be buying a crate 350 and putiing a performer intake and carb on. not sure what to do? the big block sure looks sweet under the hood.
|
11-01-2013, 01:26 PM | #2 |
2WD Jimmy
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davis County, Utah
Posts: 2,565
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Uh... yea. You might consider a Gear Vendors overdrive. Or/and fuel injection, or sell it.
|
11-01-2013, 01:55 PM | #3 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 6,427
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Just curious, what size engine?
|
11-01-2013, 02:05 PM | #4 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Central NC
Posts: 830
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Nice looking truck.
I suggest a 2nd job to make more gas $$$$.
__________________
1972 Cheyene C-10 "Ole Green" My Grandfathers truck (early 70's to 1983) My first vehicle (1983) Original 350 (3 rebuilds) 700R4 from Bowtie Overdrives |
11-01-2013, 02:40 PM | #5 |
Moderator
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 20,046
|
Re: Not sure what to do
The money you spend changing everything around will negate any savings at the pump.
__________________
1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul |
11-01-2013, 02:58 PM | #6 |
The Older Generation
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montezuma, Iowa
Posts: 25,852
|
Re: Not sure what to do
-
. with Scott. A $1600 crate 350 = Approx. 457 gal gas, and a $2250 Gear Vendors OD = Approx. 642 gal gas, plus all the work to make the switch. Now I don't know how much you drive the truck, but that's quite a bit of driving. I know you can recoup some of the money if you can sell the BB but it may be hard to sell it quick unless you want to take a big loss on it... Just my 2¢ worth. LockDoc
__________________
Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - |
11-01-2013, 03:19 PM | #7 |
Florida Edition
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fruitland Park, FL
Posts: 4,034
|
Re: Not sure what to do
What kind of mileage are you getting? 10-12? I doubt you will get more than 18-20 with a new SB crate and fancy elec trans. My 97 Z28 (LT1/auto/posi) gets 18-20 on a good day. What rear gear are you running?
Your truck looks great but if your not happy sell it.
__________________
70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394 |
11-01-2013, 03:46 PM | #8 |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ravenwood, mo
Posts: 709
|
Re: Not sure what to do
BBC's are for power, not for gas mileage! You built a really nice truck, what size of motor are you running? Specs on motor?
|
11-01-2013, 04:10 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: daytonabeach
Posts: 22,956
|
Re: Not sure what to do
get a geo
__________________
71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY |
11-01-2013, 04:26 PM | #10 |
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: jackson michigan
Posts: 755
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Enjoy it you only live once. I too have a bb with a turbo 400 3/4 ton. I have too much fun with it. I figger i might as well burn up the gas other people are saving.
|
11-01-2013, 04:33 PM | #11 |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Mahtomedi, Minnesota
Posts: 335
|
Re: Not sure what to do
I think the same way, I may be young but I doubt the world will run out of gas before I die, and they will come up with something new to run by then
__________________
Austin 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 4.8l V8 (Wrecked) 2003 Chevy 1500 standard cab short bed 4x4 w/ 5.3l |
11-01-2013, 05:09 PM | #12 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
Posts: 263
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Nice truck! I agree with the others, you will not save money changing out components
that you already own. Fuel injection is NOT the magic bullet that some make it out to be. Drivability when cold is it's main plus. OEMs use it mostly for emissions and cost on a mass build scale. Overdrive can be a plus , but here again the break even point is high. It costs fuel to feed 400+ cubes. All the best, Dirk |
11-01-2013, 06:00 PM | #13 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Farmville, Va
Posts: 3,026
|
Re: Not sure what to do
I mean to harm to anyone but I disagree. If you make the switch there is a point where you start saving and from then on, every fill-up you will save. How long do you plan on enjoying this truck? How many Arabs do you want to support for how long?
|
11-01-2013, 07:11 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: chillicothe, illinois
Posts: 690
|
Re: Not sure what to do
1975 454 bored .060, forged crank, eagle forged 7/16 rods, speed pro pistons, 10to1, edelbrock timing chain, com cams big muther thumper cam w/ matching valve train, manley stainless valves, 2.06 in, 1.88 exh with hard seats, fullroller rockers, performer rpm intake, 750 holley, Mallory ignition. I have a 3400 stall that is coming out for a 2000 stall, 3.08 gear. I have a 30 mile round trip drive to work and suck up 3/8th of a tank with a little hot rodding involved. 5 to 6 mpg is a good average.
|
11-01-2013, 08:07 PM | #15 |
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Backwoods, OR
Posts: 888
|
Re: Not sure what to do
I would suggest finding a cheap honda or as CDOWNS suggests a geo. For commuting a little econobox will triple or quadruple your MPGs. I bought my wife a Honda Fit. It gets 45+ mpg, less smog...and since its not a hybrid it doesn't produce any SMUG!
A big block is a sweet power plant but by no means a commuter in todays market but that's why you posted isn't it?!? I feel ya tho. I used to commute 110 miles round trip in my CJ5 with the 304. Half a tank easy. Super fun but totally impractical. now it's a restored rock hound. As far as others commenting on oil being around for awhile... if it was plentiful they wouldn't be screwing us with ethanol blends. "Peak Oil" is happening... if it wasn't so scarce the gulf wouldn't be dying a slow death and we wouldn't be taking control of all those middle east oil fields. IMHO
__________________
'69 K20 350/4 speed/Rockwell/D44/HO52. "orange rhymes with door hinge" |
11-01-2013, 10:41 PM | #16 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Mahtomedi, Minnesota
Posts: 335
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Quote:
__________________
Austin 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 4.8l V8 (Wrecked) 2003 Chevy 1500 standard cab short bed 4x4 w/ 5.3l |
|
11-01-2013, 11:15 PM | #17 |
So,, what else you got???
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Jackson, Mo
Posts: 18,634
|
Re: Not sure what to do
I took the well built big block out of my Cheap Bastard and replaced it with a super mild small block. I hated the change from the first drive after the engine swap until the time the new owner loaded it on his trailer a VERY short time later. I felt I had ruined, shall I say, neutered, the truck. Just my thoughts. Thanks, Fred.
__________________
Our paypal is specialtyretail@yahoo.com Please DO NOTsend paypal funds as a gift, right is right. Thanks.... Sorry, we CANNOT ship larger parts. Thanks.
|
11-01-2013, 11:21 PM | #18 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lynn Haven Florida
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Let the big dog eat, if it's not your daily driver, enjoy it. mine only get 8 mpg, 10 on a good day, even with the 283 in it before i changed it out it only got 12-14 mpg
|
11-01-2013, 11:47 PM | #19 |
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chandler AZ
Posts: 1,149
|
Re: Not sure what to do
DO NOT pull the big block out. I repeat DO NOT. I had a mildly built Big Block Olds in my 70. It got OK mileage, 15 in town and 17 on the road with a 700R4 behind it. I toasted the Olds motor and thought I'd just switch back to small block Chevy. I get around the same fuel economy MAYBE 16 in town and 17 on the road. I must admit I drive like a wuss in it. I do however really miss the BB Olds when some young whelp in his papa's Hemi truck pulls up next to me. I miss the grunt. I am slowly getting the Olds back together.
There is no replacement for displacement.
__________________
1970 Longhorn, Front Disc, 350/4 bolt, 882 heads, HEI, Edelbrock, 700R4, HO-52/4.11. 1996 Corvette, Collector Roadster, LT4, 396, 450RWHP, 6sp, 4.11/Dana44/posi 5 point roll bar And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. Gal 6:9 |
11-02-2013, 01:15 AM | #20 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Mahtomedi, Minnesota
Posts: 335
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Quote:
__________________
Austin 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 4.8l V8 (Wrecked) 2003 Chevy 1500 standard cab short bed 4x4 w/ 5.3l |
|
11-02-2013, 01:44 AM | #21 |
#16876
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Auburn WA
Posts: 12,266
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Buy a Honda & save the BB!
__________________
Posted via Stationary Device '71 Custom Deluxe C-20 402. '67 Buick Special 455. '49 Plymouth Special Deluxe. "I love that old car smell" Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. |
11-02-2013, 01:57 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cedar Park, Texas
Posts: 7,500
|
Re: Not sure what to do
That highe stall converter isnt helping any! Have you tuned the carb and timing any? that mileage seems low even for a 454. If not and you are not knowledgeable of tuning for mileage, seek out some local shops or someone local from the board to help you. You could swap the 750 Holley for something a little smaller and swap that thumpr cam for more of a torque rv cam. This well help mileage some, still have more power than a sbc and be cheaper/easier than an engine.
|
11-02-2013, 02:00 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cedar Park, Texas
Posts: 7,500
|
Re: Not sure what to do
He already has 3.08 gears. he doesnt say if he drives city or highway to work if city od wont help and going od would make it hint too much on the highway imo. As mentioned above efi wont necessarily beat a carb meage if properly tuned
|
11-02-2013, 02:03 PM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cedar Park, Texas
Posts: 7,500
|
Re: Not sure what to do
From my experience even a sbc 350 will only return 12-15 if you are lucky! I have had everything from 250 6 cyls to 454's in these trucks and they are just too much weight and non aerodynamic to get much better. An LS type engine might do a little better. One day that will be my next adventure!
|
11-02-2013, 02:17 PM | #25 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mount Morris,NY
Posts: 788
|
Re: Not sure what to do
Quote:
|
|
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|