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boataddict26 · 11-16-2003, 11:30 PM

Do they leak? I am thinking about getting one off ebay for 15.00. They are good because you dont have to drop the oil pan to get at the cam, but they seem like they would leak. Has any one had experence with these?
Mike

shavn80 · 11-16-2003, 11:57 PM

I'm new here but I can answer your question...no they don't leak at all, they're great! the inner ring is bolted on with its own gasket, holding the pan seal in place, then the outside cover is bolted on with another gasket just like normal. 15 bucks is a steal...

boataddict26 · 11-17-2003, 12:03 AM

Thanks shavn80. Just what I wanted to hear.

*1FaastC10* · 11-17-2003, 12:04 AM

shavn, dont think that just because you're new here doesnt mean you cant answer questions. that's what we're all here for, to help each other out, and to share our love for GM trucks.

welcome to our addiction, you're gonna love it here.

Boataddict, didnt mean to hijack your thread, just saw a noob and figured i'd do the usual welcome.

shavn80 · 11-17-2003, 12:11 AM

thanks Faast. I knew there had to be a kickass truck forum somewhere out there. I'm glad I found it.

Mike76251 · 11-17-2003, 07:50 AM

I tried a Mr. Gasket two-piece cover on this engine and it leaked badly right at the bottom.
There was nothing to hold the spacer ring to the outer cover at the bottom.
It appeared to be a design problem with no apparent fix.

Here is a shot with the two-piece cover on just before I rolled the engine over and found the massive leak,

bigblock73 · 11-17-2003, 08:43 AM

Mike, that looks like a one piece cover to me...am I wrong? I had a Cloyes 2 piece and loved it...never leaked...but of course the cover set me back a little over $100, so it shouldn't have.

-Jeff

Mike76251 · 11-17-2003, 10:21 AM

Jeff,
You might be right..............it has been too long since I did it!
I did go through 3 different covers before I found one that works right.
I do know what I said above happened........that two-piece leaked badly.
I got the Mr. Gasket two-piece off eBay for $15 or so and it looked straight and all but it still leaked.

TwinTurbo · 11-17-2003, 10:52 AM

Those cheap 2 pc ones will most likely leak. the sturdy aluminium ones are much better. I have milodon gear drives (one is erson brand but it''s exactly the same as the milodon one, just labelled differently) on my 2 corvette engines and I love them, combined with spring loaded roller lifter it just takes backing off the rockers and removing the cover to swap a cam.

crackajacka · 11-17-2003, 11:44 AM

i really didnt think it was all that big of a deal when i tore down my motor and removed the one piece and nothing fell out. you should go with a high quality 1piece

stan79chevy · 11-17-2003, 08:09 PM

taking the oil pan off isnt really that hard and if your cam is out anyway i wouldnt think you want to reuse the oil. what are the advantages of a 2 piece

TwinTurbo · 11-17-2003, 08:30 PM

Stan, from that point of view you're right, however some people (like me) change cams not because the old one got chewed up but to test something new, jsut to make an improvement (cam tech isn''t standing still, the lobes get increasingly more aggressive)

**swervin ervin** · 11-17-2003, 08:34 PM

The advantage is not having to remove the pan or timing cover when/if you do change cams.

Another advantage is the cool factor.

Some things we all do is not of any real benefit, but dayum, it sure is cool to say we have it or have done it.

boataddict26 · 11-17-2003, 08:39 PM

Perfect explaination swervin!!

crackajacka · 11-17-2003, 08:39 PM

yea that is true, but when i pulled the timing cover on my 305 thats sitting in the shop floor i could put it back on without any trouble. i guess it wouldnt seat right or anything huh

*1FaastC10* · 11-17-2003, 09:14 PM

i've noticed mention of a Mr Gasket timing covers, and their poor quality. when someone posts about one, the have already discovered their problem, they just dont realize it. Mr Gasket used to be decent stuff, but in my experiences more recently Mr Gasket ranks right up there with ProForm. its JUNK.

Mike76251 · 11-18-2003, 10:21 AM

Junk..........yeah
I went in for some flexplate bolts the other day @ NAPA and ask for ARP bolts.
The guy behind the counter said "why don't you use Mr Gasket bolts?"
I tried to be nice and just said "no thanks"

Maybe I should take out my ARP rod bolts and replace them with Mr Gasket?!?

*1FaastC10* · 11-18-2003, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike76251
Junk..........yeah
I went in for some flexplate bolts the other day @ NAPA and ask for ARP bolts.
The guy behind the counter said "why don't you use Mr Gasket bolts?"
I tried to be nice and just said "no thanks"

Maybe I should take out my ARP rod bolts and replace them with Mr Gasket?!?

hey, that might be a great idea for i high hp engine. it'd definitely keep you from tears tarnnys up. puttin out too much power? just snap the flexplate bolts off, never even have to thinks twice about hurting the trans.

11-16-2003, 11:30 PM	#1
boataddict26 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 726	2 piece timing chain covers???? Do they leak? I am thinking about getting one off ebay for 15.00. They are good because you dont have to drop the oil pan to get at the cam, but they seem like they would leak. Has any one had experence with these? Mike __________________ 1978 Chevy C10 Currently under resto. 350 Getting face lift. .060, JEpistons, Modify heads. More will come with money.

11-17-2003, 12:03 AM	#3
boataddict26 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 726	Thanks shavn80. Just what I wanted to hear. __________________ 1978 Chevy C10 Currently under resto. 350 Getting face lift. .060, JEpistons, Modify heads. More will come with money.

11-17-2003, 07:50 AM	#6
Mike76251 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,499	I tried a Mr. Gasket two-piece cover on this engine and it leaked badly right at the bottom. There was nothing to hold the spacer ring to the outer cover at the bottom. It appeared to be a design problem with no apparent fix. Here is a shot with the two-piece cover on just before I rolled the engine over and found the massive leak, Attached Images

11-17-2003, 08:43 AM	#7
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,824	Mike, that looks like a one piece cover to me...am I wrong? I had a Cloyes 2 piece and loved it...never leaked...but of course the cover set me back a little over $100, so it shouldn't have. -Jeff __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

11-17-2003, 11:44 AM	#10
crackajacka Stylin Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tuttle, OK Posts: 620	i really didnt think it was all that big of a deal when i tore down my motor and removed the one piece and nothing fell out. you should go with a high quality 1piece __________________ Ive been traveling for some time, with my fishin pole and my bottle of shyne. Most Girls like finished products and just dont understand what a good addiction does for you http://www.paulwall.us/

11-16-2003, 11:57 PM	#2
shavn80 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 49	I'm new here but I can answer your question...no they don't leak at all, they're great! the inner ring is bolted on with its own gasket, holding the pan seal in place, then the outside cover is bolted on with another gasket just like normal. 15 bucks is a steal...

11-17-2003, 12:04 AM	#4
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	shavn, dont think that just because you're new here doesnt mean you cant answer questions. that's what we're all here for, to help each other out, and to share our love for GM trucks. welcome to our addiction, you're gonna love it here. Boataddict, didnt mean to hijack your thread, just saw a noob and figured i'd do the usual welcome.

11-17-2003, 12:11 AM	#5
shavn80 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 49	thanks Faast. I knew there had to be a kickass truck forum somewhere out there. I'm glad I found it.

11-17-2003, 10:21 AM	#8
Mike76251 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,499	Jeff, You might be right..............it has been too long since I did it! I did go through 3 different covers before I found one that works right. I do know what I said above happened........that two-piece leaked badly. I got the Mr. Gasket two-piece off eBay for $15 or so and it looked straight and all but it still leaked.

11-17-2003, 10:52 AM	#9
TwinTurbo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 994	Those cheap 2 pc ones will most likely leak. the sturdy aluminium ones are much better. I have milodon gear drives (one is erson brand but it''s exactly the same as the milodon one, just labelled differently) on my 2 corvette engines and I love them, combined with spring loaded roller lifter it just takes backing off the rockers and removing the cover to swap a cam.

11-17-2003, 08:09 PM	#11
stan79chevy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: COVINGTON GEORGIA Posts: 477	how fast are you guys going throgh cams? taking the oil pan off isnt really that hard and if your cam is out anyway i wouldnt think you want to reuse the oil. what are the advantages of a 2 piece __________________ 79 chevy k20 350/350/205/D44/14bFF 4.56 gears rock LWB pimer black 01 S-10 ZR2 extended cab 4.3/4L60E/233 3.73 gear 31" DICK CEPEK CRUSHERS

11-17-2003, 08:30 PM	#12
TwinTurbo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 994	Stan, from that point of view you're right, however some people (like me) change cams not because the old one got chewed up but to test something new, jsut to make an improvement (cam tech isn''t standing still, the lobes get increasingly more aggressive)

11-17-2003, 08:34 PM	#13
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	The advantage is not having to remove the pan or timing cover when/if you do change cams. Another advantage is the cool factor. Some things we all do is not of any real benefit, but dayum, it sure is cool to say we have it or have done it. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

11-17-2003, 08:39 PM	#14
boataddict26 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 726	Perfect explaination swervin!! __________________ 1978 Chevy C10 Currently under resto. 350 Getting face lift. .060, JEpistons, Modify heads. More will come with money.

11-17-2003, 09:14 PM	#16
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	i've noticed mention of a Mr Gasket timing covers, and their poor quality. when someone posts about one, the have already discovered their problem, they just dont realize it. Mr Gasket used to be decent stuff, but in my experiences more recently Mr Gasket ranks right up there with ProForm. its JUNK.



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11-18-2003, 10:21 AM	#17
Mike76251 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,499	Junk..........yeah I went in for some flexplate bolts the other day @ NAPA and ask for ARP bolts. The guy behind the counter said "why don't you use Mr Gasket bolts?" I tried to be nice and just said "no thanks" Maybe I should take out my ARP rod bolts and replace them with Mr Gasket?!?

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