For those waiting on Camaro caliper brackets....

[glock35ipsc]

You might send Frizzle Fry a PM. I found this pic on his burb build thread, it doesn't look like he is using shims either.

I can't be too much help right at this moment in comparing notes since I have my rear-end torn apart.

[Hart_Rod]

Bob can you get a measurement from the bracket mounting surface to the back and front of the rotor?

[glock35ipsc]

That pic I posted is Frizzle Fry's. My rear-end is torn down at the moment. Maybe shoot Mike a PM and see if he can get them for you.

[chevydog66]

Frizzle, do you have a part # for the banjo bolts? I am going to start my conversion next week when I am on vacation. I am trying to order some S/S braided flex lines, too. Waiting on my brackets back from powder coating. the rotors will be here Monday.

[Frizzle Fry]

I haven't picked up the banjo bolts yet. I just figured I'd ask for 97 camaro rear banjos at NAPA and go from there. Here's what they show online.

On the shims; I did end up putting the washer from glock's kit between the bracket and caliper, and a lock washer under the bolt head (in place of the flat washer). Mine was definitely not as severe as yours Rob. How thick are the square spacers on the brackets? I think glock changed those on the second batch (partially my fault). They needed to go thinner, not thicker. So if you have the thicker square spacers that's part of the problem (mine are from the first batch and are the same thickness as the brackets). Also, have you bolted your wheels on yet? The rotors will probably seat a little more when you do. The last thing I can think of would be if the outer pad was not seated fully outboard in the caliper.

[Hart_Rod]

I torqued the rotors down with five open headed bolts, so I don't think that is the problem. I looks like the welded on spacers is the difference. What size should those welded on spacer's be? I would rather change those than add the spacer back in between the calper and bracket.

Also, FF, what are those weights that are attached to your calipers for? I bought a set for core's that have them, but my new calipers from NAPA don't. The new ones have a totally different bracket setup that won't even allow you to bolt the weights on. Any ideas? Thanks,

R

[Frizzle Fry]

I'd remove the spacers and replace them with whatever size spacer puts you in the right spot. They don't have to be welded on. Those weights are resonance dampeners since they are floating calipers. GM uses them a few places I've seen. Including one on my T56 Transaxle.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Those weights are resonance dampeners since they are floating calipers. GM uses them a few places I've seen. Including one on my T56 Transaxle.

Thanks for that info, I'd been wondering what those things were too. So without them you may get quite the squeal?

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Thanks for that info, I'd been wondering what those things were too. So without them you may get quite the squeal?

Probably more of a chattttttter at certain speed and pedal pressure combinations.

[chevydog66]

Frizzle, how hard was it to bend you hard lines to fit in the back of the caliper? I'm going to try this instead of buying new lines.

[Frizzle Fry]

Easy with a bender Without one, not sure. People do it. If you don't have a line bender use a pipe or something to set the radius and avoid kinks.



I'm going to use the Camaro flex lines as advised.

Originally Posted by chevydog66

Frizzle, how hard was it to bend you hard lines to fit in the back of the caliper? I'm going to try this instead of buying new lines.

[chevydog66]

My calipers look different. I didn't get the surround for the brake pad and mounting area. Will it come with the brake pads?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by chevydog66

My calipers look different. I didn't get the surround for the brake pad and mounting area. Will it come with the brake pads?

Mine came with the calipers.

[chevydog66]

I guess it's because I bought unloaded calipers. I will take them back tomorrow and exchange for loaded calipers. They are only $11 more.

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by chevydog66

They are only $11 more.

Only $11 more for loaded?!? Doesn't seem right.

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Only $11 more for loaded?!? Doesn't seem right.

I paid $165 apiece for my calipers at Napa (core charge was $82) and another $50 for the pads.

[chevydog66]

So, does the camaro flex line screw on to the T junction, or do you add it to the old hard line on the axle tube. Here's a link for the $11 loaded caliper. http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...rchFor=Caliper

[Frizzle Fry]

Yes, the flex lines are adapted to the existing steel lines (still requires bending) with the adapter provided in Glock's kit. The flex lines are only like 6" long. At least that's the theory, I have yet to install mine.

Originally Posted by chevydog66

So, does the camaro flex line screw on to the T junction, or do you add it to the old hard line on the axle tube. Here's a link for the $11 loaded caliper. http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...rchFor=Caliper

[chevydog66]

My neighbor is an assistant manager at Advanced auto. I got a pair of unloaded calipers for $170 total, core included.

[chevydog66]

The mounting bracket on mine is rubbing the rotor.

[chevydog66]

Frizzle, and Hart Rod are you guys using the NAPA Camaro parking brake cables part # 94724?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by chevydog66

Frizzle, and Hart Rod are you guys using the NAPA Camaro parking brake cables part # 94724?

That's correct.

[69_hafton]

Re: For those waiting for me to install my Camaro caliper brackets...

Finally got around to it and they're working great! I changed out the proportioning valve to a CPP unit and it feels balanced. I've driven for about 5 days with this setup and so far I'm happy with it. I'll have to re-adjust the parking brake, because it would hold when I first put the truck back on the road, but the cables have settled / stretched to where it doesn't stop the truck from rolling.

I had to shim the calipers with 2 washers to center them to the rotors. Also, I removed the heavy weights from the calipers and don't notice any vibration or squeal without them. I'm using a stock disk/drum master cylinder from a 71/72 FWIW. I used all used parts from the 93-97 Camaro: a pair of used calipers, pads, e-brake cable, e-brake cable "brackets", and rubber flex hose. Also, I bolted the (modified) brackets down so I could have a solid connection where the rubber flex hose and hard brake line connect. I may replace the pads here shortly when I get back into it to lock tight the caliper bolts. Curious to hear more feedback from others who have finished this conversion.

[chevydog66]

I finished mine a few months ago. I am using a chrome disc/disc proportioning valve from The Right Stuff. I am having a problem with the e-brake cables not being long enough, though. Anyone else with this problem? I have a GMC with rear leafs.

[69_hafton]

I've got a coil spring setup, but the parking brake cables appeared not to be long enough either. The cables were ok, I just had to add some length to the cable that comes from the brake pedal. I used a octagonal threaded collar from a hardware store and cut the head off a hardened bolt to lengthen the cable about an inch or so. I just shortened it a 1/4 inch tonight and have the parking brake working again... for now.

When I was ordering the prop valve from cpp, I thought I saw a spacer for the brake cable, but I couldn't tell if it would be the right length?