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11-29-2008, 01:20 PM | #1 |
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Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Freshly rebuilt 454. Big cam. Engine is sitting in the frame. First time start up. I have the joegibbs break in oil. I have fuel hooked up, coolant, power steering fluid, tranny fluid. I plan on running it for 30 mins, varying the rpms. Shut it down, let it cool, replace the oil filter. Add another quart of goodness. Retorque intake manifold bolts, header and exhaust bolts, then doing 1 more 15 minute start varying the rpms....
Anything i should look for when firing this up??? This has been a dream of mine to own a 454 chevy of some kind since i was 16 years old. Im now 33.... This is kind of a big moment for me..... I have a mechanic friend of mine who will be there to over see everything.. Im just nervous. ahaha.. Heres my baby. Heres what she looked like when i brought her home. Last edited by lyrikz; 11-29-2008 at 01:27 PM. |
11-29-2008, 01:23 PM | #2 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
The only thing i would suggest is to look at the cam manufacturers recomendation on break in.They each have a specific way they want the cam broken in to help give it a long life.
Hey you need to post some after pics too.
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11-29-2008, 01:28 PM | #3 |
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11-29-2008, 01:31 PM | #4 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Congrats, Your baby looks nice!
Keep an eye on the coolant level/water temp, with air pockets and all. Make sure you have oil in the tranny, and in Park. I place a box fan or 2 about 3' in front of the radiator with a new start up, also helps keep new ceramic coated headers from getting to hot during engine break in. Edit, I see you have painted hdrs, still good idea to help cooling. Planning any video? I would have a bystander record it for you. You have been waiting since 16, right? chas
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11-29-2008, 01:31 PM | #5 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Congratulations man hope all goes well
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11-29-2008, 01:40 PM | #6 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
No need to vary RPM's. Keep it at 2000, no less and run it for a full 30 minutes. If it starts to overheat, shut it down, let it cool, then run it some more. The 30 minutes doesn't necessarily have to be all at once.
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11-29-2008, 01:48 PM | #7 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Heres mine I too had wanted one since I was 16 and am now 33 just take your time thats all I have to say .. Sorry about the last part of my video looks like the camera man had one beer too many.
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The coating on the headers is the new hooker coating. I ws going to remove that and paint it but i really want to see if it stands up like they say it will... I have a feeling it wont. ahaha.. Quote:
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11-29-2008, 02:03 PM | #9 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Keep us posted and let us know when the video is up and running...
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11-29-2008, 02:25 PM | #10 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
18436572, clockwise?
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11-29-2008, 02:31 PM | #11 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
go to a large equipment rental place and get a hug box fan.
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11-29-2008, 02:32 PM | #12 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Make sure you have something past the header collectors so that the tubes don't get too hot! It'll melt the coating to a dull flat color.
Congrats on the BB!!
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11-29-2008, 02:37 PM | #13 |
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11-29-2008, 02:38 PM | #14 | |
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I dont have a huge box fan, just a fan thats alot bigger then the one that was on the truck to begin with.. It should work... |
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11-29-2008, 03:29 PM | #15 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
if your not running roller lifters make sure that your running at least 1600 to 2000 rpm so your lifters are spinning if not you may damage your cam. easy way to tell is if your pushrods are spinning. if you are running roller lifters delay my last. good luck phipp13
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11-29-2008, 03:47 PM | #16 | |
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11-29-2008, 04:12 PM | #17 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Nothing wrong with being nervous about firing up a fresh motor.I've been doing it for more years than I care to admit and I am always nervous about it.
Like everyone has pointed out -go by what the cam manu. tells you what to do. The last fresh motor that I did was a couple days ago. 389 with a howard's flat tappet cam. They wanted 2000 RPM min. for15 mins.then same again for another 15. Your idea about varying RPM's is a good one,just as long as you keep it above 2000RPM. I could go on about varying RPM forever,but let's just say 'It's a good idea" (Constant 2000RPM-not good) You sound like you know what to do.You are just nervous and need a little reassurance. You aren't the first to be nervous about a fresh motor. Just remember,,,when in doubt,,turn ignition to 'OFF' position. You'll do GREAT ! Good luck-Keith |
11-29-2008, 04:24 PM | #18 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
I dont have an ignition. ahaha... The guy helping me out has this button thing he uses... Just kill power to the dist....
How do i know if im above 2k rpms if i have no tach??? |
11-29-2008, 06:02 PM | #19 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
You could buy one of those cheapy dwell meters that have a tack built in.I have seen them go pretty cheap at some of the discount parts places.-KB
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11-29-2008, 06:20 PM | #20 |
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11-29-2008, 06:40 PM | #21 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Do we have new engine sounds yet?
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11-29-2008, 06:49 PM | #22 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
HAHA. No.. It will be sunday... Probably around 2ish im thinking. The mechanic guy has an electronic RPM reader.. You put this little sticker on the crank and it reads the RPMS. I just want to make sure im between 16-2000.... I guess thats an absolute must....
So, everything should be good to go. I do need to suck out the fuel in my gas tank, and put some new in.. But besides that, i should be good.... IM excited... what if it doesnt start... MAN IM SO NERVOUS. ahah I have never spent 4gs on a motor before. ahaha... |
11-29-2008, 09:26 PM | #23 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
I have the ghetto equivalent of this. I took a 110 volt squirrel cage fan out of the inside unit from a house AC and put an extension cord end on it. Later I used some pop rivets and fender washers to attach hardware cloth to keep anyone's appendages out. I have three of these fans now and they are a life save in the Texas heat.
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11-30-2008, 02:10 AM | #24 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
NOTE: I always prime the oil pump in a new motor every time! I take an old points type distributor,remove the cam gear,and take all the advance weights and stuff off,then I weld a nut on top of the shaft.Drop it in the motor and spin the nut with a drill. You need hold the distributor while doing this.This will fill the oil filter and pressurize the oil in the motor.When you crank and fire the motor,you will have instant oil pressure,and no dry cranking with no oil pressure.I know they make a tool for this,but this works well for me.Good luck,you'll be fine.
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11-30-2008, 11:38 AM | #25 |
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Re: Starting the beast. Any tips i should know?
Call your cam manufacture to ask what oil they recommend for start up. The oil sold now has changed a lot over the last few years and may not protect a new cam. It is not unusual these days to wipe out the cam bearings because of the oil. Check out the below link from Hot Rod. Good advice.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...ech/index.html |
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