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07-09-2012, 08:10 PM
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67 to 87 ball joints
 Does anybody know the different size ball joints gm made for each year of truck? Or what years they changed sizes/parts. Having some problems fitting the cpp spindle on my ball joints....must have the wrong size or year
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07-09-2012, 08:17 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...68&postcount=4
Upper Ball Joint: Grouped by Differences: C10 *60-62 *63-70 *71-72 *73-87 C20 *71-87 Lower Ball Joint: Grouped by Differences: C10 *60-62 *63-70 *71-87 C20 *71-87 |
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07-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
right on man! So if the kit is to fit a 67 truck I must be running 70-72 or 73+ joints
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07-09-2012, 08:24 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
So i need 63-70 ball joints....the tie rod fits so that is ok,
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07-09-2012, 08:27 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
That would be my guess. Was it already converted to disc?
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07-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
no it had 4 way drum...but these ball joints look to be newer. PO changed them and the upper is bolted now too.rivets are gone.
How can you tell what ball joints you have?
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07-09-2012, 08:35 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I don't know, might be just as simple to take your spindle to the parts store and see what fits. Which CPP spindle did you buy? Does it have a part number on it?
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07-09-2012, 08:38 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
cp4s4r
Wonder if I got the right one?
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07-09-2012, 08:40 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I think you need 73-87 balljoints.
http://www.classicperform.com/Store2/Spindles.htm CP4S4 1973-87, 2-1/2" drop, set |
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07-09-2012, 08:45 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
oh man they sent the wrong stuff...great stuff.
CP4S2 1963-70, 2-1/2" drop, set is what I ordered..... what is one digit eh!! shipping best be free |
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07-09-2012, 08:50 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I wonder if the rotors and calipers are different too for the different kits or do they use the same rotors on all the kits..
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07-09-2012, 08:52 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
That sucks, I think you might be able to use them by just switching to the newer balljoints. But I don't know if your rotor and caliper will bolt up correctly, plus you're out the price of new balljoints. Hopefullly someone else will chime in on this one.
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07-09-2012, 08:54 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
You might post this in the suspension forum.
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07-09-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
The part number is 5516-x on the rotor and zd6872r-y 291011 on the Caliper
Have to call them at lunch tm with all this.
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07-09-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I had a similar experance with a set of drop spindles from Early Classics claiming C-10 on the box but actually they were C-20's. Even molded into the cast as a C-10. Lower ball joints and tie rods were too small. Proves you can't believe always what you read even molded into the item.
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07-10-2012, 10:51 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
couple pics for the pic gooroos
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07-11-2012, 02:43 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
Customer service says to change my ball joints instead of sending me the correct part! LMAO $#@% people
CP4S2 1963-70, 2-1/2" drop, set Photo/Info $239.00 Buy CP4S3 1971-72, 2-1/2" drop, set Photo/Info $239.00 Buy CP4S4 1973-87, 2-1/2" drop, set Photo/Info $239.00 Buy Ordered CP4S2 for my year truck Sent me CP4S4 for the wrong truck ???? oh man pretty easy to fix if you ask me...... |
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07-11-2012, 02:44 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
Customer service at Summit racing confirmed the rotors and calipers will work on all three spindles so that is good....now I just need the spindle I ordered....
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07-11-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
Did you check the tie rods? Mine swallowed those too. Figures they would tell you that.
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07-12-2012, 09:01 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
The tie rods fit in. Maybe to loose I didn't look to hard I was pissed.
Now they want me to send them back at my expense so they can inspect them. Shipping is $60 NY to Cali What a load of crap. If I was rich I would fly there and toss them through the front window.
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07-12-2012, 09:13 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
Mine had at least 1/16" of slop after tight. And I had Por-15 them already so no returns.
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07-12-2012, 09:28 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I am going thru this right now as well. I was sent '70 drop spindles and they did not fit on my new '71 ball joints. So I bought all new '70 ball joints and tie rod ends as per CPP. Ball joints fit like they should and the tie rod ends fit the spindles like they should but the threads were different. I had to buy new inners and sleeves as well. The drag link is the same from '68 to '86 so the taper that mates to the drag link on the inner tie rods stays the same for those years. The threads however, do not. They change for '71. The taper on the outer tie rods and the threads change for '71. So if you are mixing and matching, do your homework. I learned the hard way, thru my wallet. I now have a brand new set of Moog ball joints for a '71 sitting here that cost me $200 just collecting dust and two perfectly good used tie rod assemblies for a '71 also collecting dust. Buying and replacing the new new parts was about the same price and weeks quicker than exchanging the spindles. Shipping 50# of spindles from MI to CA was gonna be a killer plus the repaint when I finally got the replacements plus the time to ship and red tape.
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07-12-2012, 09:36 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
mine have surface rust because they ship with no oil and bag.
Plus it has been way over 30 days because I had to save up to buy the rest of the parts(rotor calp...ect..) So I am out $300, I am just going to buy them from Summit racing...no shipping charge and they will be here next week. $235 Try and sell mine for the 73-87 trucks...
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07-12-2012, 10:02 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
I hope the correct ones bolt right up. Then I hope this thread will help others save money and stay away from crap companies... more money than brain power is always bad.
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07-17-2012, 10:40 AM
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Re: 67 to 87 ball joints
Well sure enough summit racing sent me the correct ones in 2 days and they bolted right up. ALWAYS order from Summit over CPP they know what they are doing and ship for free in one day...
What a big headache... beer time
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