Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

[izzy_Britton]

Originally Posted by FarmerSid

Very nice setups. I don't get why the A/C compressor and ALT are so wide compared to the high dollar Vintage Air, Billet Specialties or March Performance setups. Holley and Dingo make some nice, affordable stuff but wish they would tuck things in much closer.

EXACTLY!

I have not got my engine out of the donor yet, but I am wondering what sort of modifications can be made to keep everything tight still use the a/c pump.


-Izzy

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by FarmerSid

Very nice setups. I don't get why the A/C compressor and ALT are so wide compared to the high dollar Vintage Air, Billet Specialties or March Performance setups. Holley and Dingo make some nice, affordable stuff but wish they would tuck things in much closer.

Originally Posted by izzy_Britton

EXACTLY!

I have not got my engine out of the donor yet, but I am wondering what sort of modifications can be made to keep everything tight still use the a/c pump.


-Izzy

The Holley/Dirty Dingo/Allan grove brackets are all designed for simple and somewhat cheaper installation using mostly factory components. You can piece it together and pick and choose whether you want AC or PS, kind of a modular design with an economical price.

Vintage Air/BS and March to a degree started building brackets for early year high end streetrods (20s/30s/40s) that required a compact design and some one-off components. They weren't made with economy of price in mind. You pretty much have to buy their whole kit and you can't just run down to the parts store to buy replacement parts.

Just my $.02, .

[FarmerSid]

I just called March Performance and talked to a very helpful guy. Seems that the reason they can tuck the ALT and A/C in nice and close is that everything is spaced out from the block more. A/C compressor would hit the passenger head set at Vette or F body spacing. He said that there is 8" from the water pump mounting surface on the block to the pulley. I assume that is the outside face of the pulley. You have to run their water pump also. They press on a different pulley he said. Not fussy on that having to go to them for a new pump if mine fails. Brackets are compatible with a Vintage air A/C compressor but the ALT bracket uses a GM ALT but not a truck or F body ALT. That's how I understood him.

I know I need all the space I can get between the accessories and the rad in my build.

Food for thought.

[solidaxel]

Have you looked at Kwick something?
We had to use one of there A/C brackets and a B S hard line from the compressor but it cleared the inner fender
The Alt P/S bracket is truck and truck water pump

[donandal]

I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
he works at.

[aod92]

Originally Posted by donandal

I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
he works at.

That routing tag is really cool

[donandal]

Originally Posted by aod92

That routing tag is really cool

Yeah,
He's a tool and die maker, and can make some cool things on
their CNC machines that I can't do in my shop.

Plus, he comes up with some cool ideas.

My shop is all old school milling, sawing and lathe equipment.

[solidaxel]

Originally Posted by donandal

I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
he works at.

Kwick must have different brackets for the A/C pump

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by donandal

I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
he works at.

I like the routing tag too, thats a nice detail! But on that set up, will you have to pull the radiator hose to get the belt on? That would be a little inconvenient.

[67chevy1series]

Routing tag is very cool! I felt like making what appears to be a original sticker for 67 showing the routing for the belts

[67chevy1series]

Went to Pleasanton Goodguys show this weekend and seen this LS3 on a stand I like the accesory drive for the alternator and power steering bracket set up but cant seem to find a part number for the brackets alone. This is the E-Rod motor.

[donandal]

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

I like the routing tag too, thats a nice detail! But on that set up, will you have to pull the radiator hose to get the belt on? That would be a little inconvenient.

Yes,
You will have to pull the hose.
You have a good eye for this stuff.

And, it just passes above the air intake by about half an inch.

I am quite happy with the setup so far, but I haven't even run it
yet.

[FarmerSid]

Haven't seen that setup donandal. Gonna have to pick your head as I'm using C4 stuff too.

[izzy_Britton]

I have been looking into this type of stiff for my ls swap too. everything to anything.

BUT i believe the E-ROD is a whole other beast than a typical LS engine. they use their own computers, wires and components that do not seem to be the same as any of the typical production parts. yes the basics seem to be the same, block, head and maybe intake, but looks like the brackets, accessories and other stuff like as mentioned, wire harness, computer, and things like fuel rail, throttle body are all different. it LOOKS like according to the GM performance parts catalog that is. hard to say without hand in hand comparison.

i do like this belt set up but i want to keep my A/C. cool find!

[67chevy1series]

Originally Posted by izzy_Britton

I have been looking into this type of stiff for my ls swap too. everything to anything.

BUT i believe the E-ROD is a whole other beast than a typical LS engine. they use their own computers, wires and components that do not seem to be the same as any of the typical production parts. yes the basics seem to be the same, block, head and maybe intake, but looks like the brackets, accessories and other stuff like as mentioned, wire harness, computer, and things like fuel rail, throttle body are all different. it LOOKS like according to the GM performance parts catalog that is. hard to say without hand in hand comparison.

i do like this belt set up but i want to keep my A/C. cool find!

I really do like this FEAD set up, looks nicer and isn't too tall or crammed like other accessory drives, and it resembles the 67-72 small block accessory configuration which I like. I'm probably a fool for going carbureted at first instead of keeping the stock LM7 fuel injection/intake/FEAD and water pump but I really really really want to keep the old skool styling of a 1st gen small block with the Orange long block, black pulleys and brackets as well as a big ole black snorkel air cleaner on top which is kind of nice since I don't have to worry about air filter clearence or throttle body to FEAD like a stock LS motor swapped into these c10's.

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

I really do like this FEAD set up, looks nicer and isn't too tall or crammed like other accessory drives, and it resembles the 67-72 small block accessory configuration which I like. I'm probably a fool for going carbureted at first instead of keeping the stock LM7 fuel injection/intake/FEAD and water pump but I really really really want to keep the old skool styling of a 1st gen small block with the Orange long block, black pulleys and brackets as well as a big ole black snorkel air cleaner on top which is kind of nice since I don't have to worry about air filter clearence or throttle body to FEAD like a stock LS motor swapped into these c10's.

Have you seen this thread? http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=668385 I don't know if this is out of your range of ability, but it's super cool! I'd like to try and copy it sometime.

[67chevy1series]

I really like what he did, exactly the look im going for!

[67chevy1series]

I decided to go with the corvette brackets and FEAD setup... However I notcied it's got a different pump then the l99 and the truck water pump. So I'm assuming the truck harmonic balancer and the truck water pump won't line up with the corvette acessories correct? Is there any way to use the truck balancer and an l99 water pump?

[Root2812]

I switched my 5.3 to corvette spacing. I got the Holley bracket and just ordered a new corvette crank pulley from GMpartsdirect. It wasn't vey expencive and it was nice and new.

[67chevy1series]

Well to use the upper drivers side radiator hose style water pump (2010 camaro) I'm left with two choices, either run Holley's 20-135 FEAD bracket kit along with 21-3 (21-3 comes with the spacer for both the alternator bracket and the AC, I don't need the AC spacer, but can't find a lot that is just the alternator spacer alone) which together come out to around $250, and then I'll need the corvette type 2 style power steering pump, PS pulley, reservoir and reservoir bracket as well as the alternator which ideoending on where you go for parts and prices could be another 300-400 bucks. Then there's Dirty Dingos kit which has the FEAD bracket for the power steering pump and alternator, it uses the type 1 truck style power steering pump so I won't have to buy that, but ill still need an alternator as I didn't get one with my motor, and there kit is $250... Dirty dingo is cheaper yet I like the smaller PS pump and there style bracket a little bit more... Decisions decisions.