She's a ton of fun (dually build on air)

[Rusbuilt]

I just got off the phone with Dave at PB!! I added A arms, sway bar and some of them famous PB hood hinges!!!!

[JRANGER]

OMG!!! Its about to start happening!!!!! Lets do this!!!!

[jkeating1]

Have you had a chance to shop NV4500's around Nashville? Just curious what the going rate is. I found a salvage one for $450 plus core, and a rebuilt with warranty for $1075, prob also plus core--which I don't have. So another buck and a half for that, I imagine.

[Rusbuilt]

I have been looking for a 3500 or 4500, I've found a few but none I want to pick up yet. I have actually been debating on buying a whole truck so I know I get a good one. lol

[502ms]

Originally Posted by Xeen

Rusbuilt do you realize you have nearly 250 replies and you haven't even started your project in earnest yet, popular much?

LOL!

And you guys talk about me. LOL!


I am excited though. I want a dually...plus I miss driving my stepper.

[502ms]

Originally Posted by jkeating1

Have you had a chance to shop NV4500's around Nashville? Just curious what the going rate is. I found a salvage one for $450 plus core, and a rebuilt with warranty for $1075, prob also plus core--which I don't have. So another buck and a half for that, I imagine.

When I was debating on going with the T56 or the NV4500, I saw SEVERAL on ebay with 1 or 2 year warranty, free shipping, and remanufactured for $1099 and $1199. They were purty, too. But I decided I wanted the extra gears and the double OD.

[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by 502ms

When I was debating on going with the T56 or the NV4500, I saw SEVERAL on ebay with 1 or 2 year warranty, free shipping, and remanufactured for $1099 and $1199. They were purty, too. But I decided I wanted the extra gears and the double OD.

double over drive! lol

[jkeating1]

Good idea. That rebuilt didn't have shift tower, stick, bellhousing, release arm, throwout bearing, flywheel, slave cyl, master cyl---I know some of that stuff you'd want new anyway, but I'm jus sayin....
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[jkeating1]

BTW--while I've got your thread 'jacked for my own education, what do you use for hubs and rotors when you put a dropmember on a 45 yr old one ton? Are the spindles set up for hubs/discs that bolt up to the spacers it already has, to compensate for the wheel offset?
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[72k5zl1]

are your mirror arms white or a brushed finish?

[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by jkeating1

BTW--while I've got your thread 'jacked for my own education, what do you use for hubs and rotors when you put a dropmember on a 45 yr old one ton? Are the spindles set up for hubs/discs that bolt up to the spacers it already has, to compensate for the wheel offset?
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I'll be running 73-87 1ton 3" drop spindles and rotors. All I have to do is install the 1 ton ball joints in the PB arms.

Originally Posted by 72k5zl1

are your mirror arms white or a brushed finish?

They are brushed

[jkeating1]

[QUOTE=Rusbuilt;5891543]I'll be running 73-87 1ton 3" drop spindles and rotors. All I have to do is install the 1 ton ball joints in the PB arms.


Aren't the lug studs in a big spacer that bolts to the hub? Like 3" deep and 7 or 8" around, or is my memory fuzzy? If so, I guess you just get a stock one for a 73-87 1 ton, huh? Or IS that the hub?

And that T56-in-a-C30 idea is intriguing! Damn, if it can handle the torque of a Viper V10, it ought to be able to handle a HD truck pulling the occasional trailer! They have a funky output shaft though.

[Rusbuilt]

I'm not sure I'm following your question.. Big spacer? Are you referring to 10 lug adapters?

[jkeating1]

No, I'm talking factory stuff for 8 lug. You're saying the front wheel bolts to a hub face that is the same as on a C20? So the control arms are longer? Or is the spindle designed to "stick out" farther? I mean---to compensate for the 9" or so backspacing of the front wheels.

[Rusbuilt]

The only thing C20 I am using is the frame itself. I will be running c30 PB arms, 73-87 ball joints and spindles. With factory dually hubs/rotor.

[jkeating1]

Ahh! A picture's worth a thousand words! Its the outer half of the rotor/hub I was trying to describe. That answers my question. If you get the hub for a 83-87 DRW C30, that "spacer" as I was calling it, is just the outer half of the hub. Thank you--now I don't have to worry about scrounging the salvage yard!

[67cheby]

gonna be SWEET !

[502ms]

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

And that T56-in-a-C30 idea is intriguing! Damn, if it can handle the torque of a Viper V10, it ought to be able to handle a HD truck pulling the occasional trailer! They have a funky output shaft though.

Do it! I am excited about it. Think about the benefits....and yes you can make it do what you want!
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[lolife99]

Is Nate making your arms shorter so the wheels will tuck?
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[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by jkeating1

Ahh! A picture's worth a thousand words! Its the outer half of the rotor/hub I was trying to describe. That answers my question. If you get the hub for a 83-87 DRW C30, that "spacer" as I was calling it, is just the outer half of the hub. Thank you--now I don't have to worry about scrounging the salvage yard!

Lol you're welcome.

Originally Posted by 67cheby

gonna be SWEET !

Thanks Mike

Originally Posted by 502ms

Do it! I am excited about it. Think about the benefits....and yes you can make it do what you want!
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That was actually originally posted by jkeating1. I don't think I will do a t56. I will more that likely be running the NV3500.

Originally Posted by lolife99

Is Nate making your arms shorter so the wheels will tuck?
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I'm not sure. I went ahead and placed the order for the arms with Dave so I could have it all cut with my dropmembers and I should be hearing from Nate about what exactly I should do on the arms. I welcome any input, especially from a wise suspension man like yourself!!

[Rusbuilt]

I do know the dm has a narrowed track width so that will help and if I do run semi wheels they will have a huge offset. I may be ok with a factory length arm.

[502ms]

Oh - gotcha. Well, in either case, you will be banging gears....funday funday!

[Rusbuilt]

lol yes sir.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

I'm not sure. I went ahead and placed the order for the arms with Dave so I could have it all cut with my dropmembers and I should be hearing from Nate about what exactly I should do on the arms. I welcome any input, especially from a wise suspension man like yourself!!

I guess I didn't realize you had the Dropmember also.
The 73-87 bagged dually guys run dually hubs with narrowed arms, or 1-ton single wheel hubs with "lengthened" arms.
I'm not sure if the Dropmembers narrowed track width will be enough.

Have you mocked up your front end, with the wheels you will be using, yet?

The stock set-up won't tuck.
As in this member's truck.
(I would ask Nate what he thinks)

[jkeating1]

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

I will more that likely be running the NV3500.

I've been meaning to ask you--what's the difference between a 3500 and a 4500? And what is the 3500 in?

Here's a 3500 for that appears to be much less $ than 4500's

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVROLET-19...5ac08f&vxp=mtr




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