AirRide 60-78 Tubular A-Arms write-up...

[Shev]

Yes the $675 is just for upper and lower arms...I called Jason again and got a price for the complete Coolride Kit (arms, bags, upper plates & shocks)

$875 for complete Coolride Kit!!!!!!!

Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya...

Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come...


Not sure if you guys have seen this here is the post on the AirRide Forum from Darren:

"The complete front kit with the bags and shocks is $999.
If you just want the 4 arms it will be $749.

Here are a couple added benefits to using these arms compared to the factory arms:
-First we corrected the ball joint angles on the upper and lower arms for a lowered vehicle.
-Then we added a couple degrees of Caster into the lower arm. This will improve road feel and aid steering wheel returnability. From the factory these trucks did not have much caster since some of them did not have power steering. In doing so the airspring is moved slightly forward, so you will either have to slot the mounting and air fitting holes on the upper plate or buy the revised one. They are $25 each.
- The strength and look of the arms is greatly improved as well."

And another post:
"When ordering keep in mind what year spindle you will be using. The ball joints will be different from 63-70, 71 & 72, and 73-87. I believe that most disc brake conversion kits use the 73-87 spindle. "

[cysko9]

thanks shev... just recieved my order from Suicide..
cudos to the guys there, they are pretty good to work with....
(when you can get through to them) i think they need a
secretarty..... sorry, office assistant to answer calls for them

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by cysko9

.... they are pretty good to work with....
(when you can get through to them) i think they need a
secretarty..... sorry, office assistant to answer calls for them

Would that be a lack of customer service?

[cysko9]

i guess you could say that...
once you do get through though they seem to be pretty good about helping you with whatever you need... maybe they are just understaffed

[rolnlow]

I know this is a bad word but has anyone tried the arms from chassis tech for 569.00 upper and lower?

[XXL]

Originally Posted by rolnlow

I know this is a bad word but has anyone tried the arms from chassis tech for 569.00 upper and lower?

They are incompatible with bags so I didn't investigate further.

[rolnlow]

yea they are. look
http://www.truckn-store.com/product....t.asp&ID=72985

[bagged72blaz]

I have SoLow lower a-arms and AirLift GenII Extreme bags up front. No brackets, I tack welded the supplied air bag plates to the lower arm, and upper crossmember. Aired out my front middle crossmember sits about 1 1/2" off the ground, with 255/55/17s on front. It handles very well.

My question is will I feel a noticable impovement in ride and handling with these ART arms? And how low will they go? Anyone have any pics of these installed? Do they provide more ground clearance under the arm, aired out? My lower arms hit the ground if I dump all the air, from full ride height, while moving.

Also SCOTI made a good point.

"The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well."

As I plan on going with 20X9 all the way around. And clearance will be a problem. Although I'm going to have to remove my iner fenders when I step up to 20s. What are all your thoughts on this?

[smokekiki]

Originally Posted by bagged72blaz

Also SCOTI made a good point.

"The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well."

As I plan on going with 20X9 all the way around. And clearance will be a problem. Although I'm going to have to remove my iner fenders when I step up to 20s. What are all your thoughts on this?

You need to find out how much longer the upper arms are.If they are just long enough to get rid otf the shims,they should work.I have a 3/4" of shims.

[XXL]

Originally Posted by smokekiki

You need to find out how much longer the upper arms are.If they are just long enough to get rid otf the shims,they should work.I have a 3/4" of shims.

A quick stab of the tape measure shows both stock and ART uppers to be 9" long from ball joint centerline to outer edge of the cross shaft. The difference in "length" appears to be in one of the spars, which has the effect of pushing the balljoint forward (thus reducing the KPI by a couple of degrees). So, with regard to wheel width/offset, I don't see any problems caused by the ART arms over the stockers.

[smokekiki]

Thanks XXL,I didn't think they were increasing the track width.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by smokekiki

Thanks XXL,I didn't think they were increasing the track width.

The ART's were supposed to retain factory width. It was the 'other' brand of arms that advertised the feature of "built in alignment correction w/o excess shims" which is a fancy way of saying they made the uppers longer.

For my application, I want everything tucked in as much as possible but not to the extreme of the MII width & certainly don't want it wider than stock. It would seem a good idea for the other brand to offer the lowers in a shortened version.

MylilBowTie What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

They are located in the same position as factory arms. You don't see it in XXL's pics, but they are there.

[MylilBowTie]

What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

[XXL]

Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

You will most definitely need shocks. The "spring rate" of the air bags is (depending on air pressure) generally much less than that of a coil spring. The shocks attach to the stock upper mount on the frame rail and to the mount on the rear of the lower control arm... which is part of the ART arm.

[MylilBowTie]

Thanks for the replys

[nate68]

does anyone know how much of a weight savings these are?

[XXL]

Originally Posted by nate68

does anyone know how much of a weight savings these are?

Insignificant at best.

[smbrouss70]

What about the sway bar mounts? Will they accept the factory style sway bar with two bolts on either side or do you need an aftermarket type with the single bolt endlinks?

[72dually]

Just curious if the price has changed on the complete coolride w/arms as posted by shev from suicide doors?
I already purchased there plates and cups a couple month's ago, guess I wont be using the cups if I decide to go this route
Thanks

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by smbrouss70

What about the sway bar mounts? Will they accept the factory style sway bar with two bolts on either side or do you need an aftermarket type with the single bolt endlinks?

They require the use of aftermarket 'end-link' style sway-bars.

Originally Posted by 72dually

Just curious if the price has changed on the complete coolride w/arms as posted by shev from suicide doors?
I already purchased there plates and cups a couple month's ago, guess I wont be using the cups if I decide to go this route
Thanks

I don't know about the prices from SD's, but the plates will need to be notched @ the bag mounting holes as the AirRide arms move the bag slightly forward vs. a stock lower a-arm w/cups & bag.

[Shev]

The SD deal is still good...just tell Jason which board you saw it on. I would just order a set of Art plates when you order the arms (they are only like $25 for the set) and sell the kit you bought already. If you buy the complete coolride kit it comes with the correct plates...

Ooops...forgot one thing, you could always send back the SD kit you already have and get full credit for it...one of the great things about Jason, no restocking fees...

[Captkaos]

I just noticed this thread and just wanted to say cool pics. (I know I am late, but it bumped the post again.)

[72dually]

Thanks for the reply's
Im considering the whole shabang, but I'd like to hear from all sides, I love the detailed write up by MrShelley, who didnt do the arms, and I see the detailed write up this month (march issue) of StreetTrucks on the strong arm coolride set-up, but this is a magazine feature, which are known to sugar coat. Are the strong arms that exceptional?

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by 72dually

..... I love the detailed write up by MrShelley, who didnt do the arms, and I see the detailed write up this month (march issue) of StreetTrucks on the strong arm coolride set-up, but this is a magazine feature, which are known to sugar coat. Are the strong arms that exceptional?

They are well built & look nice. They correct geometry issues that arise from lowering. They can use either rubber or poly bushings, whichever you prefer. Their down side? . . ..... Cost.

[72dually]

Thanks SCOTI..........I understand the benefits, and yes there perty, but Im curious if the difference in handling/ride quality is that substancial, versus an air bagged truck w/stock control arms?
Also, how low before the geometry issue's come into play?

Thanks