If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. - Page 2 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Hart_Rod** · 07-20-2007, 08:01 PM

misc10

Morgsie · 07-20-2007, 08:07 PM

edited by moderator

krue · 07-20-2007, 10:33 PM

He's reserving the post so people asking questions don't post in the middle of his FAQ (which is where it's going when it's done).

Sicmaro · 07-21-2007, 01:24 AM

will be watching. picking up an 04 tahoe 5.3/4l60e tommorw. goin in my 70 SWB. just finshed an LS6 into my 72 camaro.

LOW DOUGH · 07-21-2007, 02:28 AM

This is going to be great Hart

Sicmaro · 07-24-2007, 01:06 AM

well i got my motor! 04 tahoe 5.3/4l60e. only thing i dont think i have figured out is.... shifter? my trucks a th350. so will the 3 speed shifter work? will i just not be able to down shift to first? or is the over drive electronic? 2nd thing. what option are there for the speedo?? id like to run the stock one. any help would be great!!! i will also add to the info when i start my swap and take pics.

69Custom · 07-24-2007, 09:29 AM

I will be watching for updates, My truck is at a performance shop. Never got it running right from the time of install so I had no choice but to leave it sit for a while. They found that there was a compression leak in one of the cylinder's. I also used a camaro 4l60e which I didn't realize had there would be a problem with the connection. The Pins are not the same. Also there are some problems with the wiring eventhough I had it re-worked. All I see is $$$$. Hopefully others have better luck.

RedZ71 · 07-24-2007, 09:50 AM

holy cow... my new favorite thread!!! i will definatly be reading this one top to bottom

shifty · 07-24-2007, 10:26 AM

Thanks for starting this one, Rob, it was long overdue. I'll chip in what I can where I can. As a point of note, the reference pages in the LS1tech Conversions and Hybrids FAQ thread will be a point of note.

The only crappy part is trying to decide what is myth and what is not - - classic example: Whether you need to bother routing the steam line to something, whether it needs to dump into the radiator or water pump ABOVE the exit point near the heads, etc.

I'll send you some content if I can find the time to type it.

sixty8c10 · 07-24-2007, 10:26 AM

Getting on board for this one

lazybra1n · 07-24-2007, 06:10 PM

When I did my GenIII/4L60E swap It almost looked like i could use the stock linkage if I would have moved it back a bit. Mine was worn pretty well so I got a Lokar piece to run directly from the column linkage to the arm on the trans. It's adjustable so I adjusted it so 4th is on the "D" Works good if it's adjusted correctly- and thats not hard. And yes- you can manually downshift to 1st w/ stock 3 spd linkage and a 4L60...

Sicmaro · 07-25-2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazybra1n

When I did my GenIII/4L60E swap It almost looked like i could use the stock linkage if I would have moved it back a bit. Mine was worn pretty well so I got a Lokar piece to run directly from the column linkage to the arm on the trans. It's adjustable so I adjusted it so 4th is on the "D" Works good if it's adjusted correctly- and thats not hard. And yes- you can manually downshift to 1st w/ stock 3 spd linkage and a 4L60...

cool sounds good!! what did u do with the speedo? id like to keep the stock cable one.

BustedTruck · 07-25-2007, 12:55 PM

This will probably be mentioned, but the differences between TAC and cable operated throttle bodies. Are you going to include what ckts should be removed if your doing your own wiring? This would be difficult due to all the different pinout combinations. Great idea on this thread

shifty · 07-25-2007, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedTruck

This will probably be mentioned, but the differences between TAC and cable operated throttle bodies. Are you going to include what ckts should be removed if your doing your own wiring? This would be difficult due to all the different pinout combinations. Great idea on this thread

It would be really cool if '68 short step' could chime in on that one. He is probably one of the only guys who I've seen that was brave enough to consistently hack his own harnesses.

**Hart_Rod** · 07-25-2007, 04:00 PM

Guys be patient with me. I'm in the process of moving from FL to New Mexico. Keep adding info and questions as neccessary.

BustedTruck · 07-25-2007, 05:17 PM

I've already hacked the harness. I'm just trying to settle in on what fuse block to use. I would prefer to work my own harness because the Computer can do more than just rust run the engine. I also can locate the computer anywhere I want.

68 short step · 07-25-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedTruck

This will probably be mentioned, but the differences between TAC and cable operated throttle bodies. Are you going to include what ckts should be removed if your doing your own wiring? This would be difficult due to all the different pinout combinations. Great idea on this thread

there are 2 versions on how the throttle bodies operate...
1) cable driven throttle body, with this style the TPS (throttle position sensor) and the IAC (idol air controler) are located on the throttle body...
2) electric throttle bodies, this operates usesing a electric pedal (the pedal contains the IAC (perse') and the TPS...also a FYI on a electric throttle body the TPS=APP accelarater position sensor....
thangs that needs removed on the PCM is VATS (vehicle anti theft system) for sure.. on a side note you can build a vats by-pass box on the cars PCM but NOT on trucks/suvs PCM...
circuits that I remove and most conversion people do too are
1) EVAP
2) rear o2 sensors
3) fuel press sensor

lazybra1n · 07-25-2007, 09:07 PM

S&P (hotrodlane.cc) makes a tailshaft conversion so you can use a cable driven speedo, but it's like $500! Someone else- dont remember who- makes a box that converts your output on your trans to an output for a speedo cable- they're like $300. I plan on getting one of these but just havent done it yet. I'll get back to you when i find out who it is. I have the info on it at home... at work now.

lazybra1n · 07-25-2007, 09:40 PM

Ok, here it is. The speedo conversion box...
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...ROD&ProdID=906

BustedTruck · 07-26-2007, 08:43 AM

It would be great if Rob is going to put in the part numbers of the adapters to make the power steering hoses connect to the gear box.

shifty · 07-26-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedTruck

It would be great if Rob is going to put in the part numbers of the adapters to make the power steering hoses connect to the gear box.

The stock 68-72 low pressure line will work as-is. If you take the stock high pressure side for the new engine, and have a hydraulic shop properly splice it into the stock 68-72 high pressure line (the gearbox end), you've got all the hoses you need. No point in spending money on special fittings unless you're going braided.

BustedTruck · 07-26-2007, 09:43 AM

Thanks shifty. I've heared another myth that the genIII pump makes more pressure causing the gear box to leak. Lets see if someone can dispell that one.

Crank · 07-26-2007, 02:34 PM

I think i seen where BustedTruck posted a reply on another thread where it gave all the pin/wire locations and descriptions... if that could be sourced and put up, that'd help I'm sure.
Brandon

shifty · 07-26-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedTruck

Thanks shifty. I've heared another myth that the genIII pump makes more pressure causing the gear box to leak. Lets see if someone can dispell that one.

never heard of such a thing, but i'll be finding out soon enough. i have yet to hear any of the other guys who've done this complain about it.

BustedTruck · 07-26-2007, 04:20 PM

Crank, I will try to help anyone out who needs pinout information. They're many different cobinations depending on year and type of Donor vehicle.

07-20-2007, 08:01 PM	#26
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,862	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. misc10 __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

07-20-2007, 08:07 PM	#27
Morgsie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 122	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. edited by moderator Last edited by centsless; 07-25-2007 at 04:56 PM. Reason: not pertinant to thread

07-20-2007, 10:33 PM	#28
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. He's reserving the post so people asking questions don't post in the middle of his FAQ (which is where it's going when it's done). __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

07-21-2007, 01:24 AM	#29
Sicmaro Always wrenching!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 301	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. will be watching. picking up an 04 tahoe 5.3/4l60e tommorw. goin in my 70 SWB. just finshed an LS6 into my 72 camaro. __________________ 71 C-10 5.3L/4L60E 72 Camaro LS6/4L60E 06 Duramax 19 RZR XP4 turbo Dynamix 56 Belair 5.3/4L60E swap in progress

07-21-2007, 02:28 AM	#30
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. This is going to be great Hart

07-24-2007, 01:06 AM	#31
Sicmaro Always wrenching!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 301	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. well i got my motor! 04 tahoe 5.3/4l60e. only thing i dont think i have figured out is.... shifter? my trucks a th350. so will the 3 speed shifter work? will i just not be able to down shift to first? or is the over drive electronic? 2nd thing. what option are there for the speedo?? id like to run the stock one. any help would be great!!! i will also add to the info when i start my swap and take pics. __________________ 71 C-10 5.3L/4L60E 72 Camaro LS6/4L60E 06 Duramax 19 RZR XP4 turbo Dynamix 56 Belair 5.3/4L60E swap in progress

07-24-2007, 09:29 AM	#32
69Custom Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Elizabethtown ,PA,USA Posts: 347	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. I will be watching for updates, My truck is at a performance shop. Never got it running right from the time of install so I had no choice but to leave it sit for a while. They found that there was a compression leak in one of the cylinder's. I also used a camaro 4l60e which I didn't realize had there would be a problem with the connection. The Pins are not the same. Also there are some problems with the wiring eventhough I had it re-worked. All I see is $$$$. Hopefully others have better luck. __________________ 1972 Chevy C-10 Short Stepside 6Cyl, 3 spd, not opts (Current Project) Now a 2004 SSR 5.3L with 4L60E Now Ididit tilt- ps, pb 2002 Saturn L200 2006 Toyota Highlander HYBRID

07-24-2007, 09:50 AM	#33
RedZ71 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 246	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. holy cow... my new favorite thread!!! i will definatly be reading this one top to bottom __________________ Jonathan 2001 ECSB Silverado Z71 1971 LB C10 Custom www.z71silverado.com

07-24-2007, 10:26 AM	#34
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Thanks for starting this one, Rob, it was long overdue. I'll chip in what I can where I can. As a point of note, the reference pages in the LS1tech Conversions and Hybrids FAQ thread will be a point of note. The only crappy part is trying to decide what is myth and what is not - - classic example: Whether you need to bother routing the steam line to something, whether it needs to dump into the radiator or water pump ABOVE the exit point near the heads, etc. I'll send you some content if I can find the time to type it. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM. Last edited by shifty; 07-24-2007 at 10:26 AM.

07-24-2007, 10:26 AM	#35
sixty8c10 MY EX DRIVES A BROOM Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Herington, KS Posts: 869	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Getting on board for this one __________________ They say nobody's perfect. I'm a nobody, so I must be perfect. Building Nemo -1968 C10 Long Bed FRED -1947 KB-2 International

07-24-2007, 06:10 PM	#36
lazybra1n Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Modesto CA Posts: 29	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. When I did my GenIII/4L60E swap It almost looked like i could use the stock linkage if I would have moved it back a bit. Mine was worn pretty well so I got a Lokar piece to run directly from the column linkage to the arm on the trans. It's adjustable so I adjusted it so 4th is on the "D" Works good if it's adjusted correctly- and thats not hard. And yes- you can manually downshift to 1st w/ stock 3 spd linkage and a 4L60... __________________ '08 VW GTI- daily driver '74 CJ5 in pieces (4-bolt sb406/700R4 & 3/4ton running gear) '70 C10 W/ LS1 & 4L60E Last edited by lazybra1n; 07-24-2007 at 06:13 PM. Reason: Add info

07-25-2007, 12:55 PM	#38
BustedTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braselton, GA Posts: 245	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. This will probably be mentioned, but the differences between TAC and cable operated throttle bodies. Are you going to include what ckts should be removed if your doing your own wiring? This would be difficult due to all the different pinout combinations. Great idea on this thread

07-25-2007, 04:00 PM	#40
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,862	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Guys be patient with me. I'm in the process of moving from FL to New Mexico. Keep adding info and questions as neccessary. __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

07-25-2007, 05:17 PM	#41
BustedTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braselton, GA Posts: 245	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. I've already hacked the harness. I'm just trying to settle in on what fuse block to use. I would prefer to work my own harness because the Computer can do more than just rust run the engine. I also can locate the computer anywhere I want.

07-25-2007, 09:07 PM	#43
lazybra1n Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Modesto CA Posts: 29	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. S&P (hotrodlane.cc) makes a tailshaft conversion so you can use a cable driven speedo, but it's like $500! Someone else- dont remember who- makes a box that converts your output on your trans to an output for a speedo cable- they're like $300. I plan on getting one of these but just havent done it yet. I'll get back to you when i find out who it is. I have the info on it at home... at work now. __________________ '08 VW GTI- daily driver '74 CJ5 in pieces (4-bolt sb406/700R4 & 3/4ton running gear) '70 C10 W/ LS1 & 4L60E



Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

07-25-2007, 09:40 PM	#44
lazybra1n Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Modesto CA Posts: 29	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Ok, here it is. The speedo conversion box... http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...ROD&ProdID=906 __________________ '08 VW GTI- daily driver '74 CJ5 in pieces (4-bolt sb406/700R4 & 3/4ton running gear) '70 C10 W/ LS1 & 4L60E

07-26-2007, 08:43 AM	#45
BustedTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braselton, GA Posts: 245	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. It would be great if Rob is going to put in the part numbers of the adapters to make the power steering hoses connect to the gear box.

07-26-2007, 09:43 AM	#47
BustedTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braselton, GA Posts: 245	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Thanks shifty. I've heared another myth that the genIII pump makes more pressure causing the gear box to leak. Lets see if someone can dispell that one.

07-26-2007, 02:34 PM	#48
Crank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 1,965	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. I think i seen where BustedTruck posted a reply on another thread where it gave all the pin/wire locations and descriptions... if that could be sourced and put up, that'd help I'm sure. Brandon

07-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#50
BustedTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braselton, GA Posts: 245	Re: If you want to do a 5.3/4L60E install, lots of pictures and info. Crank, I will try to help anyone out who needs pinout information. They're many different cobinations depending on year and type of Donor vehicle.

Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.