Where did rally wheels come from?

[leddzepp]

Originally Posted by 71 super

The truck rally did not start until 76 or later not before- still the land of full wheel covers or dog dish caps. The truck rally could be had in 5 lug for 2wd and 6 lug for 4x4, people as said before have passed them on this model truck for quite a while. I personally feel that the rally wheel (which gives the width 8") covered with a factory full wheel cover is the way to go. Looks stock from the side but gives the beef of a 60 or 70 series tire to fit the truck better.

I agree. I had rallyes on my blue/white truck with the factory correct full covers. It not only enhanced the appearance of the tires, but I could pop them off and go with trim rings for a different look. Like having two sets of wheels for the price of one

[knsmodels]

the original rally's in 67 where available on all Chevy cars that came with the "new" disc brakes....they where for better cooling of the disc rotors.....

[Fitz]

Originally Posted by 72peace

Thanks. So, all the rally wheels flying around the board are actually from 73-up chevy pickups/vans? Don't the purests take issue or is it they just look cool?

Cheers,

Nope. Lots of us think they are kinda cool and GM did too. Here's a SHORT list of stuff the factory put them on:

XA 14X5 B-3 1/2 67 Chevy II with drum brakes
DA 14X5 B-3 7/8 67 Chevy II RALLY with disc brakes
DG 14X6 67 Camero & Chevelle with dics brakes
XB 14X6 B-4 3/8 67 Chevelle SS, 68-69 Chevelle with F-70 Tires, 70 Chevelle
XN 14X6 B-3 3/4 68-69 Camero & Nova with drum brakes. Different shaped outer
AE 14X6 B-4 3/8 70 Chevelle Station Wagon
XG 14X6 B-3 7/8 68-69 Camero with dics brakes, 68-70 Chevy II/ Nova with disc brakes, 69-69 El Camino without disc brakes. Wider drop center than normal
DE 14X6 B-4 3/8 71-72 Nova & Chevelle, 6 hole wheels
YW 14X6 B-4 3/8 Exactly like XB, may have come on same cars
YJ 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Camero/ Chevy II L72- ZL1, 70 Nova
AV 14X7 70-72 Camero, 71-72 Nova, 6 hole wheel
XT 14X7 L72- ZL1 Non Rally Wheel
YA 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Chevelle SS Wheel
AO 14X7 B-4 3/8 70 Camero &69 Chevelle SS Wheel
DB 15X5 67 Passenger Cars with disc brakes.
DF 15X6 B-4 1/16 67-68 Camero Z28
DC(BIG) 15X6 B-3 1/2 67 Corvette, No other stampings on rim
DC 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (early models)
FI 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (later models) Rivited instead of welded together
YS 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 El Camino
FW 15X7 B-4 1/4 71-up most any GM
AG 15X7 B-3 3/4 68 Corvette (will take 15x8 Beauty rings)
YH 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 69 narrow drop center
AD 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 68 wide drop center
AV 15X7 70, 71, 73 CAMARO Z28 5 spoke wheel
AZ 15X8 B-4 69-82 Corvette

[Roadmarks]

Great information, Fitz! If you can, please answer this for me, what is (or is there) any difference between what Chevy advertised as "Rallye" wheels and what many are calling "Rally" wheels. I know that the car and truck wheels were different in appearance. What I am talking about may be all 1960s advertising hype. Thanks for your post.

Les

[ChevLoRay]

Are those fractions...the backspacing? If you said it was, I missed it. That's good information.

[litew8]

Were'nt rally wheels originally created for military vehicles back in the day? Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought I had read it somewhere.

[LONGHAIR]

Camaro

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

Most people on the street have no idea that they are not original on these trucks, they are used to seeing chevy trucks with them.

This is the problem with the lack of authenticity found on most "original class"67 thru 72 pickups. To make matters works, you have articles written up by people who don't even know they are incorrect. Point, Hemmings Oct 2011 page 76. Article on 72 c10 cheyenne. A pretty good article about the luxury of the new for '71 cheyenne model but author gets fooled by the nice resto job. Quote: "A high percentage of them were sold with either elaborate full wheel covers or rally-type wheels with trim rings."

[1969stepside]

what are the diff in the trim rings i know that the size is diff for 8' wheels and seven but what is the diff in the ring i have seen some that are round lip and some that have a flat lip

[special-K]

You just named the difference and I think you want to know what years used what(?) and I can't answer that. I just went through this thread and kept wondering how car rallyes kept coming up. The topic is truck rallyes,which are the ones that fit these trucks. Wheel Vintiques started making the five slot car rallyes in 5 on 5 and,sorry,I can't say what year they came out (that was the question). If the topic was car rallyes,there are more than one style.

http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/C...o%20ss-396.jpg

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 71 super

The truck rally did not start until 76 or later not before- still the land of full wheel covers or dog dish caps. The truck rally could be had in 5 lug for 2wd and 6 lug for 4x4, people as said before have passed them on this model truck for quite a while. I personally feel that the rally wheel (which gives the width 8") covered with a factory full wheel cover is the way to go. Looks stock from the side but gives the beef of a 60 or 70 series tire to fit the truck better.

Our '75 2wd pickup had the stock rallys when new.

They had the smaller, round center cap (rather than with the scallops for the lug nuts) and the bases painted black (rather than the more common silver).

K

[stsalvage]

Boy i know i will hear if from a lot of bored members on this one But i have to chime in on this one.Now i see in a lot of states that are pretty calm about size of wheel on there old Rides Butt here in calif. I have to say it and ledzepp will or will not agree But The people that live in calif are let just say there pitiful.Every car or truck in the low housing area's have rim's over 22 inch and i see it as a wast of money and tires and brakes

Just to add Most of these people that have anything over a 19 inch rim do not understand that you chew up your brakes faster then having a smaller tire size and you only get 15,000 to 19,000 miles out of your tires that cost from 150.00 a tire to 400 man i can buy 4 15 for 435.00 and they get 65--70,000 miles To days people are so wasteful

[special-K]

Originally Posted by stsalvage

Boy i know i will hear if from a lot of bored members on this one But i have to chime in on this one.Now i see in a lot of states that are pretty calm about size of wheel on there old Rides Butt here in calif. I have to say it and ledzepp will or will not agree But The people that live in calif are let just say there pitiful.Every car or truck in the low housing area's have rim's over 22 inch and i see it as a wast of money and tires and brakes

Just to add Most of these people that have anything over a 19 inch rim do not understand that you chew up your brakes faster then having a smaller tire size and you only get 15,000 to 19,000 miles out of your tires that cost from 150.00 a tire to 400 man i can buy 4 15 for 435.00 and they get 65--70,000 miles To days people are so wasteful

I totally see how this relates to the topic of rallye wheels?

[Longhorn Man]

I'm not getting off the couch, so I'll just say ROCLMAO!

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Nice education. So is this:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=462895

[michael bustamante]

Originally Posted by 72peace

So, what vehicle did this type 5x5 specifically come off of or were they a range of years and vehicles? Thanks to St1x10 for the photo.

this wheel was avail on the 73 and up half ton 2wd pickups

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by michael bustamante

this wheel was avail on the 73 and up half ton 2wd pickups

Rally wheels (RPO N67) became available for the 1975 model year.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...olet-Truck.pdf

K

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Roadmarks

If I remember correctly, The first "Rallye"wheels came on the 1967 Vette.

1965 Pontiac:

[Boog]

It can be confusing to many people as some GM wheels were called rally wheels, sport wheels, rally 2 wheels, styled steel wheels and I think some were called road wheels back then between the different divisions as I recall.
And the later steel ones starting in 88 with trim ring and center caps called rally wheels too.
As usual Keith you are a wealth of information on all things GM.

[special-K]

Ok, where did rallye wheels come from? Europe!

When were they first used on US-built GMs? 1965 GTO- 6 slots

When were they first used on Chevy cars? 1967 Sting Ray*- 5 slots

When were they first used on C10 trucks? I always thought it was 1976**- 16 slots

When were they first used on K10 trucks? I always thought it was 1976**- 10 slots

* AFAIK

** Could be wrong, but I thought it was when the hubcaps and consoles changed. Look at Chevy brochures from 1975 and find rallyes shown to prove me wrong. I just might be, but '76 is how I've had it. Always wanting to learn

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by special-k

when were they first used on c10 trucks? I always thought it was 1976**- 16 slots

when were they first used on k10 trucks? I always thought it was 1976**- 10 slots

1975.

K

Originally Posted by keith seymore

our '75 2wd pickup had the stock rallys when new.

They had the smaller, round center cap (rather than with the scallops for the lug nuts) and the bases painted black (rather than the more common silver).

K

[special-K]

Ok, there ya go! I should have read your post that showed the RPO dated 9/74. even when I Googled to check on myself, they didn't have a clue. They same literature popped up for both '75 and '76. Just to be sure I'll ask someone with personal experience through ownership combined with actually working with GM for many years....Oh, hey Keith. Howya been?

to truly answer the question asked in the title, I think we need to know who the jobber was on these

[Ruscal]

I bought a new '74 G20 Beauville van that came with Rally wheels.
Russ

[leftybass209]

I just confirmed G20 beauville vans only could be optioned with 15x7 rally wheels with P06 trim rings and special hubcaps. Dated Aug 10, 1973.

[no1udknow]

I was under the impression that the 6 lug 8 inch wide rally wheels were a stock option for 71-72 k5 blazers. Is that not true?