The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-20-2013, 03:20 PM   #26
bnoon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Des Moines IA
Posts: 1,250
Re: Carb school

Quote:
Originally Posted by tucsonjwt View Post
Whatever you do, get a manual choke kit ($12) - that way you will know for sure that your choke valve is open all the way when you are driving and closed all the way when you first start it up. With an automatic choke you never know where the choke valve is, either hot air or electric.
I've never had any issues with any of my electric chokes as long as it's working and adjusted.
__________________
- 1981 Sierra 454, NV4500 swap
- 2006 Z06, 25k miles
- 1973 Nova - Project CarNova Virus on Youtube
bnoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 06:13 PM   #27
1slo_camaro
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: North East, MD/ Cape May, NJ
Posts: 286
Re: Carb school

dumb question.... I run regular 87 in my truck right now. and started bumping up the timing a little. and once i start advancing shell run like a raped ape, but on higher RPMs ill start getting spark knock.... If i back the timing off she loses the power. could i either put in new hotter plugs and wires cap/rotor. or can i run 91 octane to help out?
__________________
1978 2wd Fleetside, 350/th350 headers and 10 series mufflers

1998 Jeep ZJ 4.5 lift 32s full bolt ons awaiting axles

"Life is full of decisions, we make them and dont look back"
1slo_camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 06:29 PM   #28
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Carb school

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1slo_camaro View Post
dumb question.... I run regular 87 in my truck right now. and started bumping up the timing a little. and once i start advancing shell run like a raped ape, but on higher RPMs ill start getting spark knock.... If i back the timing off she loses the power. could i either put in new hotter plugs and wires cap/rotor. or can i run 91 octane to help out?
Run higher octane and see what it does. What's your compression?

Initial timing and total timing. Ported or manifold vacuum for vac advance?
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 06:32 PM   #29
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,733
Re: Carb school

Keep the timing cranked up but put on an HEI vacuum pot limiter. Cuts back your excess timing. Pic in here.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343241
geezer#99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 08:48 PM   #30
1slo_camaro
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: North East, MD/ Cape May, NJ
Posts: 286
Re: Carb school

Quote:
Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86 View Post
Run higher octane and see what it does. What's your compression?

Initial timing and total timing. Ported or manifold vacuum for vac advance?
Posted via Mobile Device

its just a bone stock from the factory 350 all i have done is chrome valve covers (just had them laying around lol) and a open element. and figures.... i just filled up the other day and well 20 gallons at 3.37..... kinda sucks haha



damn now i remember why my ol man always threw away HEI kits and we ordered MSD Billets..... which i might have at the house a brand new MSD billet and I have a 6a box here just need to get a coil
__________________
1978 2wd Fleetside, 350/th350 headers and 10 series mufflers

1998 Jeep ZJ 4.5 lift 32s full bolt ons awaiting axles

"Life is full of decisions, we make them and dont look back"
1slo_camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 09:00 PM   #31
tucsonjwt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,189
Re: Carb school

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnoon View Post
I've never had any issues with any of my electric chokes as long as it's working and adjusted.
You are very fortunate. I have never had one work properly, consistently. The worst part was when I was driving on ice right after starting up the vehicle cold, and the choke stayed closed almost all the way, and the engine revved up a lot - try to ease away from a stop sign on ice at 20 degrees below zero.
Plus, Edelbrock choke valve was too big for the opening and got stuck from time to time, plus thermostat coil on electrics never opened up far enough, or too far - never could get it right. I am not very lucky.
tucsonjwt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2013, 10:21 PM   #32
Phillip Pennartz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Wichita Falls,Tx
Posts: 56
Re: Carb school

octane in gas is used to slow down the burning speed of the air fuel mix. More compression speeds up the burning speed.
On a stock motor ,higher octane is a waste of money. Get the timing right and you will have better power and mileage. The HEI is a pretty good and tunable distributor. If your inclined to tune it ,do it at a 1/8 drag strip. You can make small changes and with accurate measured times of acceleration and you can see what works and what don't. Plus drag racing is a lot of fun, and its really fun when your getting faster.
On your timing I would start with the base timing and bump it up a degree at a time till it stops improving. You will probably wind up with a base timing of about 10 to 12 degrees btdc.
after that get a advance kit for your HEI. It has counter weights and about six springs. You can mix different spring tensions. In my case a stock 350 with a th350 and 3.42 gears I ran fastest with one stock spring and the next lightest spring from the kit. But every engine is different ,so test it.
If you keep the Quadrajet, I would if you stay fairly stock, You can tune it too. I got a book on it and learned a lot. I found out that the secondary's when they open they raise a pair of tapered rods up thru the jets and not all rods are the same. In my case my rods were pretty thick limiting fuel flow. I found some junk Quadrajet with thinner rods and wound up knocking off a 1/2 second in the 1/8 mile. These rods have letters stamped in them to identify them and they are discussed in that Quadrajet book.
Phillip Pennartz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 01:45 PM   #33
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Carb school

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1slo_camaro View Post
its just a bone stock from the factory 350 all i have done is chrome valve covers (just had them laying around lol) and a open element. and figures.... i just filled up the other day and well 20 gallons at 3.37..... kinda sucks haha



damn now i remember why my ol man always threw away HEI kits and we ordered MSD Billets..... which i might have at the house a brand new MSD billet and I have a 6a box here just need to get a coil
I just got a pro billet hei

If your base timing is to high like at 15*btdc and your mechanical is giving 25 because its worn then the combination will give you 40* which while is not bad it's still a tad high esp if your octane is low. Worn hei distributors give a lot of advance sometimes more than 25* in bad cases

Try and get 38* by 3500 rpm at least. 10-12* initial is about what stock-even cammed engines like
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com