bodywork questions bondo?

[OrrieG]

Yes, a reasonable marksman can place 3-5 .22 caliber shots in a silver dollar size circle at 25 yards. But we are digressing...

[dwcsr]

Originally Posted by OrrieG

Or poorly grouped .22....

I didn't think of that but I have seen my share of old trucks with bullet holes. Very possibly someone leaned a target up against the truck and shot at it.

[SCHRUMGMC]

If it was, it wouldn't be on the other side of the door

[dwcsr]

Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC

If it was, it wouldn't be on the other side of the door

Yes it would. I think its dent puller holes. The used to drill holes and thread in a sheet metal screw and hook it to a puller.

[SCHRUMGMC]

As far as I know, there hasn't been a dent in that truck.. because the guy I bought it from said it didn't have a dent on it, my pawpaw must of did it because he said there was bondo on the trucks



Thank you whoever made my own thread for this !!!

[meter swinger]

Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC

Thank you whoever made my own thread for this !!!

Most likely it was LIZ.

[mechanixman]

oops
already answered, nevermind

[SCHRUMGMC]

Sure enough, the eyebrow on my truck is messed up.smh, another thing to fix

[Indian113]

With all the rust I've seen and with your limited ability to fix it I'd be looking for a replacement cab! Now if you take a class on welding and make a plan and stick with it you may get this truck on the road. Your going to have a bunch of money in patch panels and if you need to hire someone to weld them in it's going to be a major job. I could be wrong but I've rebuilt a few cars and trucks and it costs big money to restore anything.

[SCHRUMGMC]

I mean I would try to find a replacement cab, but in my mind my pawpaw or family didn't touch that cab or ride in it over the years.Sounds crazy but I am sorta like a hoarder if you catch my drift.I know someone who is a very good welder, and im sure I could get him to help me

I'm going to get the windows fixed, and sand blast the areas that need it

[Liz]

Originally Posted by meter swinger

Most likely it was LIZ.

sheesh, do you have to yell my name???


Yes, I split the posts off of someone elses thread. Lets make our own topics with our own questions, instead of derailing other members threads.
Thanks

[SCHRUMGMC]

I apologize Liz, I saw the one thread about derailing peoples threads.It was not intentional, my apologies

[mr48chev]

Originally Posted by roger55

The only way to treat rust properly is to cut it out and replace it with new metal.

Nothing is impossible to fix. A lot of metal is reproduced. When it's not that means fabricating or finding it on a donor truck and grafting it onto yours.

+1 the proper way is to cut the rusted out spot (s) out to good solid metal and then either fabricate a patch or buy a patch panel for that area.

The bondo (body filler) is for after you have done the best you can do with your metal work and it needs a bit of filler to slick it off.

It's too cold and too dark to go out and take photos of the spots on my 48 where I cut a few corners in the early 80's and used bondo instead of good metal work. My body work skills weren't all that good in those days and my patience was non existent at that time. At any rate there are a couple of spots where the bondo is cracking and the rust is showing through and it needs major work to fix it right.

[SCHRUMGMC]

Excellent points man, only issues I'd have, how would you fix the Head light holders?

[OrrieG]

Duplicate what is there. The trucks are mirrored side to side, so if one side is good, you can make a cardboard template, flip it, transfer to metal. Cut out the bad piece and weld in the new. Best 3 months of your life would be to find a technical school near you and enroll in a basic welding and metal working class. I have an old fender I cut up, drill and reweld back to practice and warm up on before attacking the real work.

Metal working is just practice, practice, practice. I learned in the Army at the hobby shop from a old timer. Luckily for me there was no one else using it so I basically had 3-4 hours each night of one on one instruction. I had a VW 61 panel, they look like a box but do not have one straight panel, everything is a compound curve for strength. I worked on it for 6 weeks with just a hammer and various dollies before he even let me touch any plastic. It paid off most was a skim coat, thickest was not even 1/16th of an inch. Now there are lots of youtube videos, books, etc. to get you started, but first you need to learn how metal moves, stretches, buckles, etc.

[SCHRUMGMC]

Thanks man, I'll keep this all in mind.Due to one of the fellow members smart mouth my other Thread got locked.

Anyway, would lining the inside of the Fenders with "Rhino lining" be a smart choice?.I have heard it prevents rust etc. Opinions please??

Figured out where the Clutch and the Flywheel Cover are, but where do they bolt to?, I've looked on here and "Google" but no luck

Taking the Headlight buckets to my neighbors place tomorrow "hopefully" to get them Sandblasted and re-painted "Black". What size screws go to these headlight buckets?.I'm going to use bondo and primer around the headlight holders.Taking small steps on this truck

[OrrieG]

Rhino liner is applied after you have delt with the surface rust, it does not fix or remove it. you will need to get the old undercoating and surface rust off to good metal (blast or wire wheel, etc.), repair any problems then prime, paint and apply undercoating if you want. I show how in my thread or there are others too.

Lay under your truck and look up a the flywheel. The flat part goes towards the engine. Should be holes in the bellhousing that line up with the shield. You will need to check the bolt size, might be 1/4". A Clymer or Chilton service manual will show you these types of things with explanations. Factory assembly manual will show the diagrams but no explanation.

I googled chevy truck headlight bucket and this came up
http://www.classicpartsusa.com/produ...57_Truck_Parts
you can get the same at any hardware or auto store, look like #8 or #10 screws.

[SCHRUMGMC]

As far as I know the whole trucks been Sandblasted.I'll look into that Orrie thank you, I appreciate it.I'd like to just put the headlights back in and make it look half decent.I wish I could find a junked truck with a good windshield and use it for my truck.

I'm looking through Patch panels and I think I'll need this

http://www.brotherstrucks.com/prodin...number=IHPP900

Because my lower pocket is completely Rusted through

The bottom of the Kick panel is rusted through, but I don't want to buy the whole assembly for the kick panels.I guess I can use "18 Ga" Steel and have it welded in

http://www.brotherstrucks.com/prodin...number=ISPR900

Of course this for the "rusted' through step and rocker, the passenger side will have to be replace eventually, but I am less worried about it

http://www.brotherstrucks.com/prodin...number=FBP59SS

This as well for the bed, I guess the original one was rusted through

[SCHRUMGMC]

Got some things to do, before I can "possibly" start on sandblasting the buckets

[mechanixman]

Dude...
the headlights should be the last of your concerns right now.
Have you fixed the roof, door, corners, cowl panels, any other pinholes or rust spots on the cab first? Those are the holes are the ones that degrade the structural integrity of the truck, and let the wind blow through your hair while you're driving - when you own a truck, not a convertible.

Honestly? To me, it doesn't seem like you're up to the task of welding in all those new panels in the truck. Which is perfectly fine I don't think I would be either. those are some complex curves you need to hammer out before you can just weld it in. I think you indicated earlier that you thought about paying someone else to do it? That's fine, but that'll cost wayyy more than it's worth.
I'd take Indian's advice if I were you, and find another cab. You want to be a hoarder? Keep the cab in the garage. Turn it into a grill or a toolbox!
But that's just my 2¢

[SCHRUMGMC]

Thanks Mechanix.I'm just doing "small tasks" right now until I get money for the Patch panels.I want to put the Cowl back on, which size bolts do they take??.I'm one of them people who gets attached to things its hard to explain.I sold some things and got $60 to get my "Generator" rebuilt and once it gets done.I'm getting a battery as well, pour some gas in the Plastic Gas tank sitting on the bed.Starting it up, I have some help from my friends that will help me install my Generator and other things.Question, I think I have the spare tire mount holder, but it looks like it goes to the bed, since I'm heading that way tomorrow I will post a photo on what I am talking about.Found the Master Cylinder Plug and filled up the hold in the floor.Just fiddling with things right now, inspecting all of the rust areas etc.

Here's something interesting, when I was inspecting the old original rims I swore I saw my name "Caleb" scratched in on the metal.If its not my name then its something "spooky", I'd like to switch out the rims with the Original rims because it has that rusty green look to it.

Tried something the other day, found a bag full of rusty bolts from the truck, and poured "Pepsi" and put them all in glass cup.Heard it eats the rust away.

I'm missing one Fender emblem "hoping the guy finds it".

Asked for a seat cover for Christmas, to cover the Seat up.When I do get done with this truck, I'm going to leave the Bench seat the way it is.

[OrrieG]

when you put the generator in get a new voltage regulator. many times the voltage regulator frys the generator, if not replaced it will do it again, i know from experience. also read up on polarizing the regulator before hooking up the battery.

[SCHRUMGMC]

I believe the Voltage Regulator is brand new, if I am not mistaken

Also got the "Original" Gas Cap and put it in Paint thinner, and got all of the black paint off of it

Almost brought a tear to my eye when I saw the things in the Glove box, his things were still there.Even the flashlight, and some parts he bought back in the 80's

[62lwbc10]

I like the sentiment very much that everything is fixable. Its true. I restored a 62 that was a basket case, if there wasnt a patch panel available, I found a guy in California that had a junk yard and I paid big money for him to harvest parts from an old cab that I could use to repair mine. That, or worst case you have to fabricate yourself from stock sheet metal. May take alot of time and you may need to invest in some education or good friends (I did both), but yes everything is fixable.

[SCHRUMGMC]

The truck has way too much sentimental value to just "get" a new cab, its a good idea but its not for me.

I have the Generator being rebuilt tomorrow